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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.12.19 15:45:00 -
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flank steak wrote:a lot of butt-hurt in here
There's also a lot of anecdotal commentary and zero facts.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:18:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:a lot of anecdotal commentary and zero facts Welcome to internet forums. :D
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:31:00 -
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Quote:What I am concerned about is CCP wanting to put this on a hardware platform that in 2013 will be 7 yrs old. (released November 11, 2006). Really guys? Could Dust not be better served on the PC (with better hardware) and reach a MUCH broader audience?
As DUST will have regular updates, and downloading a PS 4 version is business as usual, I really don't see your point.
Also the PS Network opens a new audience of over 50million subscribers. That'll have to do for a start. Just remember two things:
1: CCP knows that many EVE players already own a Playstation, or will own their handheld (Vita).
2: While many EVE players will become involved in DUST because of it's close ties with EVE, the main thrust of the product is not aimed at them. It is aimed at an entirely different (and huge) demographic.
If you have a passing interest in DUST, but aren't into consoles, you can still have fun with it simply by playing the EVE side of the equation. Interact with DUST mercs, hire them, recruit them, order them around, sell to them, buy from them, provide transportation for them, support them, nuke them from orbit... pretty much everything short of shooting them in the head.
If you find that all of that is enjoyable but simply not enough for you, consider getting that PS3... as now there is finally a game out for it that you might enjoy. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Cailais
Rekall Incorporated The Forsaken.
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:44:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:
Trying to beat an expert in his area of expertise (which for me happens to be gaming) is the most ******** thing you can do.
lols! You're funny. Please poast moar!
C.
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Dielax
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:48:00 -
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clearly some PS3 / console fanboys on here... whatever
I still think this should be a PC release as well. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:01:00 -
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Dielax wrote:clearly some PS3 / console fanboys on here... whatever I still think this should be a PC release as well.
Who knows, perhaps eventually, but that opens up a rather large can of worms.
Edit: I don't think you are going to find that many people on the EVE Online forums that are console fanboi's.
However, you will probably find plenty of people that play both PC and Console games. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:05:00 -
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i wasted money buying an xbox because i saw both consoles in peturssons office in a vid released years ago. +2 subsciptions to gold package i forgot to cancel.^^
do i buy ps3 or wait for ps4? |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:36:00 -
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I'm starting to wonder that myself. I'm waiting until the DUST release draws near to decide. If I just need to wait a couple of months for the PS4 that's probably what I'll do. The word on the street is that Sony is waiting as long as it can to announce the PS4 release date so people keep buying PS3s. ...but the word on the street isn't always worth a lot, so who knows. All GëíGêçGëí Ships | GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá | <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game
FX7 - No Tax... No Rules... No Problem |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.19 17:46:00 -
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Hmm...
From this...
Quote:Although formidable, the Heavy and Assault suits represent only one aspect of the battlefield eco-system. Sheer firepower will only get you so far. A smart squad will utilize the force multiplying support of the Logistics suit; the recon and electronic warfare specialties of the Scout; and all the modules and equipment they have at their disposal to become an unstoppable force. After all, one should never underestimate the value of a well-placed EMP grenade.
So... FPS combat is like EvE combat?
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FX7 - No Tax... No Rules... No Problem |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:02:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote: You forgot the part where CCP charges you the price of the game (pobably 60 bucks) + 20 bucks *entrance fee* to buy in-game currency to get weapons and ****...
The game's initial cost will be $20 which also gives you $20 worth of the in-game currency (ISK?).
That's it.
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northwesten
Trinity Corporate Services Terran United Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:05:00 -
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Freezehunter seems to be a idiot that just talks a lot about something he DOESN't even understand....
Sorry but If CCP could they will have Xboxs and PS3 if they could BUT they can't so they went with PS3.
Keep saying it's screwed because it's not on PC just ******** period. |
Abominare
The Spawning Pool Team Liquid
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:09:00 -
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Dust isn't a game you go buy a cd for. You simply download it from the PS network.
We've really reached the stage where the non-nintendo console companies aren't interested in creating a system from the ground up . Meaning that realistically the PS3 and Xbox franchise really now just run on cut down version of PC operating systems. The whole console model now is just releasing a newer more powerful box running on about the same OS as the previous (a few tweaks and upgrades). You're just buying the upgraded specs.
Realistically there would be zero point in waiting to release dust. Its done in the unreal engine if i remember correctly, tuning it for a more powerful system is definitely a possibility, and would require about the same amount of effort it does to have graphics settings on the eve menu.
There's no point for them to wait unless they're going to fully scrap the whole project and try to license a new engine that they feel the PS4 would take better advantage of.
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Freezehunter
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:09:00 -
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northwesten wrote:Freezehunter seems to be a idiot that just talks a lot about something he DOESN't even understand....
Sorry but If CCP could they will have Xboxs and PS3 if they could BUT they can't so they went with PS3.
Keep saying it's screwed because it's not on PC just ******** period.
If you are going to insult me, at least use proper grammar, you subhuman piece of ****. Is it better to be a nice guy or an *******? Tried being a nice guy, got shat on by all the assholes, became one. Tried being an *******, now everyone hates me. I am confused. How do you make people like you, when all they can see is text? |
Kelsi Corynn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:15:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/genrabbit
Read it and weep.
Please tell me you didn't just add the majority of those games for the sake of the forums... then I really would weep.
Also... relax. |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:10:00 -
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fuer0n wrote:i wasted money buying an xbox because i saw both consoles in peturssons office in a vid released years ago. +2 subsciptions to gold package i forgot to cancel.^^
do i buy ps3 or wait for ps4?
buy a PS3 (they are seriously cheap, much cheaper than a xbox, you might even be able to get a partial trade in)
The ps4 isn't happening its wishful thinking on the part of the "future is better" mob.
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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:13:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:...and I used to play WoW up until a few months ago, then I got sick of it and deleted all my characters and destroyed my authenticator).
LOL, I dumped WoW 2 years ago, but I did not go that far. All my toons are still there, I just deactivated the account. Props for kicking the habit for good. |
Winters Chill
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:21:00 -
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Gogela wrote:I'm starting to wonder that myself. I'm waiting until the DUST release draws near to decide. If I just need to wait a couple of months for the PS4 that's probably what I'll do. The word on the street is that Sony is waiting as long as it can to announce the PS4 release date so people keep buying PS3s. ...but the word on the street isn't always worth a lot, so who knows.
The word from sony (and Microsoft sorta) in 2010 was 5 years of life left. So its 2015 at the earliest for the PS4/xbox Nu-name-here.
If anyone wants a news console go buy a new Wii.
CCP are smart guys, they would't release a title for an obsolete system. If there was any chance the PS4 was coming out, they would delay and migrate or convert to another (PC) format. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:27:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:... pretty much everything short of shooting them in the head. Oh, I'm sure one of them will be unlucky enough to be standing at the centre of your orbital bombardment. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.12.20 03:40:00 -
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Winters Chill wrote: The word from Sony (and Microsoft sorta) in 2010 was 5 years of life left. So its 2015 at the earliest for the PS4/xbox Nu-name-here.
If anyone wants a new console go buy a new Wii.
CCP are smart guys, they wouldn't release a title for an obsolete system. If there was any chance the PS4 was coming out, they would delay and migrate or convert to another (PC) format.
I'd guess xmas 2014 at the earliest, probably more like Spring 2015.
And I'd say the PS3 has a great deal of life left in it.
Whenever the PS4 arrives, it's not like *poof* every PS3 suddenly disappears off the face of the planet, is it? Or even, that every PS3 magically transforms into a new PS4.
Of course, if this was an Apple product then all PS3's would be replaced immediately on the day of release of the PS4, in an egotistical emorage of owning something 'obsolete'.
Maybe 2020 it'll die out, but certainly not on the day of the PS4's release.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.20 10:22:00 -
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Thread cleaned up.
To answer the OP's question, more information on the DUST 514 beta will be released soon (and I mean "really soon" rather than "soonTM" )
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Sardon Darkstar
Tears of Redemption NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:55:00 -
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I for one hope that Dust is going to be a success. Just the idea of two different games with each their own community, sharing the same environment and interacting, that's just frikken awesome. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:03:00 -
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Sardon Darkstar wrote:I for one hope that Dust is going to be a success. Just the idea of two different games with each their own community, sharing the same environment and interacting, that's just frikken awesome.
That's got to be circumstantial.
How are we going to interact? Are we going to be able to affect their world, by blowing them up in an orbital bombardment? Are we going to be able to give them ISK directly into their wallets? Chat channels, EVE Voice, Forums, EVEmail, Calendar?
We need information before calling it awesome, as it stands the idea sounds good, no more.
We don't even know if the game has auto-leveling, surely a key concern for anyone using a controller?
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Sardon Darkstar
Tears of Redemption NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2011.12.20 12:13:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Sardon Darkstar wrote:I for one hope that Dust is going to be a success. Just the idea of two different games with each their own community, sharing the same environment and interacting, that's just frikken awesome. That's got to be circumstantial. How are we going to interact? Are we going to be able to affect their world, by blowing them up in an orbital bombardment? Are we going to be able to give them ISK directly into their wallets? Chat channels, EVE Voice, Forums, EVEmail, Calendar? We need information before calling it awesome, as it stands the idea sounds good, no more. We don't even know if the game has auto-leveling, surely a key concern for anyone using a controller? AK
True, the exact details are still unknown to us, but surely the information on this page suggests interaction. EDIT: And this page too. |
Zaine Maltis
Innsmouth Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:11:00 -
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Wow, that is a bloody awful article :/
It doesn't say ANYTHING! It just reads like he bought an Xbox for DUST.... Innsmouth Enterprises
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Zaine Maltis
Innsmouth Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:14:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: If you're the elitest squad in COD, that means nothing, it's a sport. DUST will be the real stuff where losing and wining means something in the console market.
And some people are really itnerested to see wether DUST breaks the stagnation in which console makers have cornered themselve in terms of online gaming.
This is the killer, if they pull it off.
And if they iterate over it, improve and develop it to prevent it getting dull...... Innsmouth Enterprises
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Flatline.
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:20:00 -
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Freezehunter wrote:I've said it once and I'll say it again.
Dust 514 is ****** from day 1 just because it is a PS 3 exclusive.
Not making it for the PC (where, by the way, Eve Online, the game that made you what you are, CCP, you ungrateful sellout morons, is played) was a brain dead mistake.
Dust will be going against COD and Halo, both of which have huge fan bases that not even Battlefield3 was able to fight against MW 3, and Battlefield has a huge fan base and history.
When I first heard about Dust, I was super mega hyped, but then you dumbasses decided to make it console only, which is a surefire way to make me and thousands of other Eve players not want to touch it.
That being said, I ******* hate consoles, and no wonder how much I love eve, I won't buy a **** console just to play Dust, I have an 8k Gé¼ PC for that.
QFT.. honestly DUST has been a cluster since day one. I get why they didn't release on XBOX (server constraints/microsoft rules) but they should have just released it as a PC/MAC game and ignored the console entirely. DUST will be, at the very most, a very very niche game, in my opinion. There's no way this goes up against the current FPS market... especially with PlanetSide 2 just around the corner as well.
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.20 14:25:00 -
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Sardon Darkstar wrote:True, the exact details are still unknown to us I have a feeling they are unknown to CCP as well. There is no way to force MMO players on a PC to play with console kiddies that makes any sense. Either the interaction will be so shallow that it's basically meaningless or they will drastically alter Eve mechanics to the detriment of the game. Like I've said before we just have to hope that Dust fails quickly before it takes Eve down with it.
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fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.20 15:03:00 -
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i'm hoping that we won't have to play with console kiddies all the time, as has been answered in this thread pub play for hi sec hired mercs/corps for null and they were unsure about low sec. if dust has enough to it and it's fleshed out enough it will apeal to people who want to play competitively and in a regular squad. all dipends on the gamplay but from what i've read so far with the moblie command center and the rts gameplay it's going to rely heavily on good tactics as well as being able to "shoot people in the face" ,another guess but i think someone somewhere used to play tribes in a leauge/ladder. if only half of the competative teamplay that was in that game rubs off on dust it's going to be good. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.12.20 15:04:00 -
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Sardon Darkstar wrote:True, the exact details are still unknown to us, but surely the information on this page suggests interaction. EDIT: And this page too.
Kinda my point - it makes the suggestion but in no way outright states 'this is how it will work'.
We want to know how this interaction manifests itself, because to date this is what we know:
Capsuleers can blow Dust players up from space (according to video footage) Dust Players are at our whim (according to video footage) Dust players have to buy ammo and weapons using ISK (according to video footage)
To me: all this means is that we can hire Dust Players to take a planet, and then blow them up from space, just for the shear fun of it.
So, how long before Dust gets a reputation for being the kind of game people play if you like being an ant under the magnifying glass.
Seriously; if there is an Alliance out there whose 'leader' doesn't own a PS3 and simply decides to spend all of their moon-goo revenue on perpetual orbital strikes, all the while laughing at the sound of a thousand PS3 players crying out in frustration, before logging back into COD.
I mean that's potentially the situation we are in here...so, yes, we need some clarity on what the interaction will be.
CCP can't tease us with video footage of taking out Dust players in orbital strikes, and then produce a game that doesn't have that feature.
So, what's it gonna be: true interaction or BS.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.20 15:08:00 -
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can't see why they would remove it, there are other ways to balance it, also been hinted at the dust players can shoot back. :) |
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