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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.04.30 22:31:28 -
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Feyd: I imagine that right now, you're feeling a bit like Alice. Hmm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole? Raz: You could say that. Feyd: I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that's not far from the truth. Do you believe in CCP, Raz? Raz: No. Feyd: Why not? Raz: Because I don't like the idea that ree-ree's are in control of my gaming experiences. Feyd: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire EvE life, that there's something wrong with New Eden. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about? Raz: Bitter-vetdom? Feyd: Do you want to know what it is? Raz: Yes. Feyd: Bitter-vetdom is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very thread. You can see it when you undock or when you jump your Proteus. You can feel it when you pvp... when you pve... when you pay your wardec fees. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. Raz: What truth? Feyd: That CCP doesn't love you Raz. Like everyone else you were born into a hisec prison. Into a repetitive and ultimately pointless ISK and skill-point grinding prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind. Raz: Dude, let me the **** out. Feyd: You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in Romi and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1728
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Posted - 2016.04.30 22:57:28 -
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Agent Fozzie: Why hello there, Mr. Razpataz.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
263
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Posted - 2016.05.01 12:44:02 -
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First of all I have to say thanks for all the kind words. I really thought the trolls would try to tackle me at the first page.
Love you guys! GÖÑ
As for all the helpfull suggestions.. I have to say we have already tried most ways to circumvent the buddylist change for 2 months now. Some work to a degree in smaller scale, others are just to much work. Keep in mind I've now tried to hold on to the old school hunting for 6 years and burned out alot of my guys just by doing that. The ones who had no patience or effort for it left to other mass decing operations (just to have easier kills) or burned out and went to a 0.0 retirement home.. waiting for pings.
I already have what I think is the most dedicated and patient members in eve, and some secret squirrels. What makes you think making it even harder would make people not pick the low hanging fruit instead? |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
1565
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Posted - 2016.05.01 12:58:59 -
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I agree that the watchlist changes are stupid.
But: There is lots of PvP in both Low and Null Sec.
No need to fold your corp when there are many places to have fun in Eve blowing stuff up.
If you leave high sec you get better content.
https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
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Jagd Wilde
ffs i gave up on names
4
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Posted - 2016.05.01 13:51:49 -
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Starrakatt wrote:Jagd Wilde wrote:I have heard that if one wants quick, fast, and plentiful PvP , that one only needs to leave hisec. No need to spend hours hunting one hisec carebear. This is my main, FETID is a Lowsec entity. That being said: All styles of gameplay are valable: Hisec, Lowsec, Nulsec, WH. Some people prefer Hisec. Who are you to judge what one prefers? Post with your main or GTFO.
OP was crying about changes to hisec merc work. I offered a solution to finding plentiful and readily available targets. You got butthurt about whatever and felt the need to post more tears.
I was under the impression that mercs were badazz hunter/killers. Your tears did not seem of the same quality. They did, however, smack of adolescent inability to adapt or die. For a lowsec whatever you are, you sure seem salty. Maybe you should move to hisec and buy a barge, you seem to fit that group well.
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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
265
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Posted - 2016.05.01 14:10:17 -
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Jagd Wilde wrote:Starrakatt wrote:Jagd Wilde wrote:I have heard that if one wants quick, fast, and plentiful PvP , that one only needs to leave hisec. No need to spend hours hunting one hisec carebear. This is my main, FETID is a Lowsec entity. That being said: All styles of gameplay are valable: Hisec, Lowsec, Nulsec, WH. Some people prefer Hisec. Who are you to judge what one prefers? Post with your main or GTFO. OP was crying about changes to hisec merc work. I offered a solution to finding plentiful and readily available targets. You got butthurt about whatever and felt the need to post more tears. I was under the impression that mercs were badazz hunter/killers. Your tears did not seem of the same quality. They did, however, smack of adolescent inability to adapt or die. For a lowsec whatever you are, you sure seem salty. Maybe you should move to hisec and buy a barge, you seem to fit that group well. Post something relevant to OP's problem or GTFO
Speaking of trolls... The same goes for you tho.. leaving highsec does not really solve my problem.. does it?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15305
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Posted - 2016.05.01 14:22:04 -
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Still stuck with the "**** what you find" instead of "find what you want to ****".
Better the Devil you know.
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Jagd Wilde
ffs i gave up on names
4
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Posted - 2016.05.01 15:16:55 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote:Jagd Wilde wrote:Starrakatt wrote:Jagd Wilde wrote:I have heard that if one wants quick, fast, and plentiful PvP , that one only needs to leave hisec. No need to spend hours hunting one hisec carebear. This is my main, FETID is a Lowsec entity. That being said: All styles of gameplay are valable: Hisec, Lowsec, Nulsec, WH. Some people prefer Hisec. Who are you to judge what one prefers? Post with your main or GTFO. OP was crying about changes to hisec merc work. I offered a solution to finding plentiful and readily available targets. You got butthurt about whatever and felt the need to post more tears. I was under the impression that mercs were badazz hunter/killers. Your tears did not seem of the same quality. They did, however, smack of adolescent inability to adapt or die. For a lowsec whatever you are, you sure seem salty. Maybe you should move to hisec and buy a barge, you seem to fit that group well. Post something relevant to OP's problem or GTFO Speaking of trolls... The same goes for you tho.. leaving highsec does not really solve my problem.. does it?
Hey i can admit that the watchlist changes were unnecessarily applied to hisec, and that CCP could have protected super pilots in null just by having the watchlist apply to only to pilots in hisec. Hawever, if your problem is that you cannot use the watchlist to easily find carebear targets, then you get no sympathy. EvE is hard. Adapt or die. Delete the week. I am sure you have heard it all. And some of us dont think it should be easy to kill targets in hisec while you are protected from others by CONCORD.
You cannot simply watchlist some noob carebear corp to easily farm kills outside of the hub/pipe systems anymore, and that may suck for someone who cannot adapt.
So adapt. I know that changing old habits is tough, and sometimes it just does seem worth it, but buck up friend. If you need to scare up some quick and plentiful kills to satiate your members then you should be in Saranen right now. Is there something stopping you from going to lowsec and finding gudfites? Something other than the relative safety that hisec game mechanics allow you while you hunt easy prey?
Hisec 'merc' corps have had it easy for a long time. Easy to pad the kb while relatively safe from the rest of EvE. Someone mentioned having an alt join the wt's for the member list intell. That suggestion was deemed "not worth it". To hard huh?
Maybe hisec 'merc' work was really not merc related. I will need to google 'mercenary' again, but does a merc not place themselves in harm's way, to use skills learned in battle to fight for someone in exchange for money?
Maybe you lot mistook 'merc' for 'assassin'. Either is viable gameplay in EvE, but only one takes on the dangers of mercernary work. The other hides behind CONCORD and wardecs while farming easy-killz in hisec.
Were any of you sperglords actually involved in the recent IWI merc war against the Imperium? For either side? If so, then congratulations, you earned isk as a Mercenary.
The rest of you were hiding in hisec, like assassins, trying to farm kills while protected by CONCORD.
I personally have several alts performing awox services in a few hisec carebear corps. It is very easy to see who is on and where they are in space, and all without a locator or watchlist. You could do this also, if you were able to adapt. |
ChinDownEyesUp Arkaral
United Wolfs Nations
7
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Posted - 2016.05.01 15:43:43 -
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really sad to hear it, I always saw the devils as the shining example of what i always considered the way highsec mercs should operate. as other have pointed out, it just never was the most optimal way to do things but it was at least possible. now its going to disappear and I will no longer be able to tell people that not all mercs are station/gate hugging cowards. (not that that is true anyways).
while i think the watchlist system was dissolved for other good reasons, it really shows the state of highsec warfare that the last dynamic avenue for merc operation was closed as an afterthought to solve a nullsec problem.
with just a few changes, i think highsec warfare could become something unique and worth preserving without having to make it like null or low, but without a CSM rep or any real voice we are pushed aside for what CCP inevitably considers higher priority features and problems. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion
2665
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Posted - 2016.05.01 15:47:47 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote: .. The ones who had no patience or effort for it left to other mass decing operations (just to have easier kills) or burned out and went to a 0.0 retirement home.. waiting for pings. ..
You used to ping me on mumble Late night when you need my deeps Ping me on my mumble Late night when you need my deeps I know when that hotline ping That can only mean one thing I know when that hotline ping That can only mean one thing
Ever since I left hisec you Got a reputation for yourself now Everybody knows and I feel left out Dude you got me down, you got me stressed out Cause ever since I left hisec, you Started deccing less and sparking up more Buttsexxing bads in the Niarja corridor Hangin' with some toons I've never seen before
You used to ping me on my mumble Late night when you need my deeps Ping me on my mumble Late night when you need my deeps I know when that hotline ping That can only mean one thing I know when that hotline ping That can only mean one thing
Ever since I left hisec, you, you, you You and me we just don't get along You make me feel like I did you wrong Going places where I don't belong Ever since I left hisec, you You got exactly what you asked for Running out of targets in your pimp fit prot Hanging with some toons I've never seen before
You used to ping me on my mumble Late night when you need my deeps Ping me on my mumble Late night when you need my deeps I know when that mumble ping That can only mean one thing I know when that mumble ping That can only mean one thing
These days, all I do is Wonder if you tolerating drama from someone else Wonder if you rolling up a fat blunt with someone else Doing things I taught you dropping Bhaalgorns with someone else You don't need no one else You don't need nobody else, no Why you never far from home Why you always touching hisec road Used to always be patient, be a good dude You was in the zone You should just evac yourself Right now, you're someone else
You used to ping me on my mumble Late night when you need my deeps Ping me on my mumble Late night when you need my deeps I know when that hotline ping That can only mean one thing I know when that hotline ping That can only mean one thing
Ever since I left hisec...
F
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15309
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Posted - 2016.05.01 16:06:48 -
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Feyd, you moved us to lowsec and all we did there was camp gates at the expense of active hunting before you left for null.
Better the Devil you know.
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Frack Toasters
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.05.01 16:09:51 -
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Merc's, lol where to start.
The meta game is over for you guys. Pack it up. The rest of EVE pretty much views you guys as clowns anyway. Do some real content. Leave high sec once in awhile.
Or just shut up and sit in trade hubs pick off single players at a time because content lel...... Don't forget to mass wardec too |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15309
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Posted - 2016.05.01 16:22:45 -
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shut up anslo.
Better the Devil you know.
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Thermal Damage
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
207
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Posted - 2016.05.01 16:46:04 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:shut up anslo.
Always the correct reply to any Anslol statement.
I was found guilty of Nitshe by the CoCaP
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Kaely Tanniss
Addicted To Chaos Archetype.
595
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Posted - 2016.05.02 02:57:06 -
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Frack Toasters wrote:Merc's, lol where to start.
The meta game is over for you guys. Pack it up. The rest of EVE pretty much views you guys as clowns anyway. Do some real content. Leave high sec once in awhile.
Or just shut up and sit in trade hubs pick off single players at a time because content lel...... Don't forget to mass wardec too
Another "brave nullsec elitist" judging hs mercs. Cute
Post with your main or gtfo
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Sucky
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.05.02 07:47:27 -
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Frack Toasters wrote:Merc's, lol where to start.
The meta game is over for you guys. Pack it up. The rest of EVE pretty much views you guys as clowns anyway. Do some real content. Leave high sec once in awhile.
Or just shut up and sit in trade hubs pick off single players at a time because content lel...... Don't forget to mass wardec too
Dj zelo Telepath is salty because shitfit Naglfar and has decided to take out his frustrations on the good folk of CnP with his cyno alt.
Am I close?
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Tengu Grib
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
1486
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Posted - 2016.05.04 18:44:35 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Solonius Rex wrote: Any ideas?
Locator agents not running on offline players would do it for me. id be happily back to work just with that
That's all it would take imo. Get feedback like you do with people in WH's. Or maybe new text. "The target is here, but he seems to be asleep."
Rabble Rabble Rabble
Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
796
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Posted - 2016.05.05 23:08:22 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:As I recall, the buddy list can function as a watch list if the other person accepts the request. I have not tried this but it was how CCP said they would implement the change. In other words, if your friend agrees to you watchlisting them, you will see when they are online. This is why I suggested infiltration may be required now for normal hi sec merc work. Get an alt into the corp. Friendly up to the corpmates, claim you want to join their fleets when they get online and ask them to accept the buddy list invite. It may be harder, but may be doable. If i can get an alt into a corp i dont need to **** aroumd with the buddy list, i can just look in the corp member list and see who is online, regardless of this its still a ludicrously excessive amount of work to do on demand (which is what is required now), moreso than i can give to this game and i have tried , i do have a clean unaffiliated account but that should not be a requirement . Normal highsec Mercenary work is now sitting in hubs and pipes and decking everything that moves within eye-shot. We will not , Therefore we are no longer Mercenary's.
I've long thought that a neutral scout alt should not be a requirement for merc work and a booster alt should not be a requirement for lowsec pvp...the game of alts is real.
The more alts you have to run to play the game effectively, the more money CCP makes.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
796
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Posted - 2016.05.05 23:10:20 -
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Frack Toasters wrote:Merc's, lol where to start.
The meta game is over for you guys. Pack it up. The rest of EVE pretty much views you guys as clowns anyway. Do some real content. Leave high sec once in awhile.
Or just shut up and sit in trade hubs pick off single players at a time because content lel...... Don't forget to mass wardec too
I have respect for the guys that actually roam highsec and hunt for targets. The wardec spamming docking ring dwellers are not here complaining because they are not affected. |
Saeger1737
Bite the pillow Archetype.
1509
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Posted - 2016.05.05 23:23:02 -
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Atleast I can say I've danced with the devil's in a pale moonlight. Never been a member but always a supporter.
MERC WITH A MOUTH
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eddie valvetino
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
178
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Posted - 2016.05.09 15:18:22 -
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normally
I would write some ******** and scathing response about whining and how you need to adapt to current game mechanics
Today
I have to say, I really you. Strikes me that you are not the run of the mill station camping, pipe camping moron but the sort of guy/corp that stand out from the High Sec scum bags.
If all high sec mercs were offering the level of quality you do, i would think long about hard and resolving my sec status and putting an app in.
The location system, to my knowlegde had never been looked at and should be been along with the changes to the bounty system.
Hope you get the changes you need and good luck
peas
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Johng Kahn
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
17
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Posted - 2016.05.09 15:40:13 -
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I took a 5 month break and came back to this change. I have only lived in w space and the lack of watch list has definitely impacted my ability to be able to get intel on targets as the locater system will only let me know if they are or are not in w space at the time i run it. (still kind of useful if you are sure they are on line).
Now i'm down to only good old fasion pos lurking and even that has changed with new cits, I dont know who is docked unless they undock. |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
178
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Posted - 2016.05.09 16:03:05 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Random thought, would it be worth the effort to offer services to faction warfare corps? For example, pay us X and we'll guard gates while your faction runs the plexes? Or pay us X and we'll Dec and hunt faction corps in their hi sec system your militia can't easily reach?
Or... Start including a form of espionage with the contract. Pay X, we'll get a rookie in group Y, use him to add corp members to their watch list and Dec in a week or two?
Obviously not perfect, but something you could maybe offer?
good idea...
But sadly, in FW your targets high sec is far from safe.. and not that hard to infiltrate. Look at what Loren Gallen did solo and Wraith of Fenris did as a whole corp.
They were both able to regularly lock down whole high systems.
Having said that, I'm fairly certain, due the lack of skill shown by at least the Caldari FW corps.. you might find work hunting Gal Fed corps
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
4229
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Posted - 2016.05.09 16:20:04 -
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I saw someone badmouth caldari FW and had to join in. It's been my experience, as a group that lives in Nourvukaiken that caldari FW players are some of the worst players in the game.
They pretty much just blow up one at a time while buzzing around nourv aimlessly or get caught while running missions or mining in highsec and on the rare occasion they actually attempt retaliation it consists of like 4 year old characters flying t1 trash boats without a coherent doctrine and no support. All the while they complain in local about how bad you are and that you won't fight them in lowsec, even though you routinely chase them around in lowsec and they only fly frigates there and they still run away.
Oh and they'll let you bash their highsec structures and won't appose you at all.
Regular highsec carebears are more aggressive and dangerous than caldari FW corps. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
801
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Posted - 2016.05.09 20:13:35 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I saw someone badmouth caldari FW and had to join in. It's been my experience, as a group that lives in Nourvukaiken that caldari FW players are some of the worst players in the game.
They pretty much just blow up one at a time while buzzing around nourv aimlessly or get caught while running missions or mining in highsec and on the rare occasion they actually attempt retaliation it consists of like 4 year old characters flying t1 trash boats without a coherent doctrine and no support. All the while they complain in local about how bad you are and that you won't fight them in lowsec, even though you routinely chase them around in lowsec and they only fly frigates there and they still run away.
Oh and they'll let you bash their highsec structures and won't appose you at all.
Regular highsec carebears are more aggressive and dangerous than caldari FW corps.
Templis brings out decent doctrines against us on occasion. However they are extremely risk averse and prefer kiting doctrines with heavy logi support. (Gilas/snakes and basilisks etc.).
Church of Awesome is Aussie TZ and generally run kite stuff with links but that's excusable because there's like 6 of them. And they are the only calmil corp that consistently shows up to defend systems.
The rest of them are pretty bad it's true, usually found gatecamping with svipuls, farming with stabs or blobbing solo T1 frigs.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Carpe Noctem. Pandemic Legion
2665
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Posted - 2016.05.11 02:56:01 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Feyd, you moved us to lowsec and all we did there was camp gates at the expense of active hunting before you left for null. Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station
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Saeger1737
Bite the pillow Archetype.
1518
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Posted - 2016.05.11 03:10:26 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Feyd, you moved us to lowsec and all we did there was camp gates at the expense of active hunting before you left for null. Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station 1 lucky fighter with 2 torpedos kills thousands in a matter of seconds....... ... .... ... ..... And the devil's rejoice in ewok costumes.
MERC WITH A MOUTH
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Kaely Tanniss
Addicted To Chaos Archetype.
599
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Posted - 2016.05.11 05:18:46 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Feyd, you moved us to lowsec and all we did there was camp gates at the expense of active hunting before you left for null. Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station 1 lucky fighter with 2 torpedos kills thousands in a matter of seconds....... ... .... ... ..... And the devil's rejoice in ewok costumes.
..to the ORIGINAL ewok music..not that crap from the remastered one.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Saeger1737
Bite the pillow Archetype.
1523
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Posted - 2016.05.11 05:35:12 -
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Kaely Tanniss wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Feyd, you moved us to lowsec and all we did there was camp gates at the expense of active hunting before you left for null. Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station 1 lucky fighter with 2 torpedos kills thousands in a matter of seconds....... ... .... ... ..... And the devil's rejoice in ewok costumes. ..to the ORIGINAL ewok music..not that crap from the remastered one. I was thinking strip club style but sure we'll go with what you said.
MERC WITH A MOUTH
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15619
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Posted - 2016.05.11 07:19:21 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Feyd, you moved us to lowsec and all we did there was camp gates at the expense of active hunting before you left for null. Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station hmmm
Better the Devil you know.
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