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CaesarGREG
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2016.05.04 21:45:25 -
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Pls consider keap balance in market ( Keap balance between Sales Tax and broker Fee its important for game)
What is market? what is it? Answer:
1. Producers / miners / ratters. 2. Buyers. 3. Market traders.
With all 3 things everything works fine.
But 3. Point to exist fine need Higher Sales Tax than Broker Fee, becaues Producer usualy sell Goods to Market Trader on "buy Order" to avoid and dont pay Sales Tax, usualy dont want wait so long as trader. Now when Seles Tax is around 20% costs ( 2x broker + Tax) most producers will decide sell themselves, what in my opinion will disfunction markets.
-Stiupid things will happend more often like difrence beetween buy and sell will be lower than transaction costs. -Higher broker fee than tax makes less Orders on market. -less Transaction, ppl will think twice before set up order. -Haulers will hurt smaller hubs will slowly die. -Now Broker fee was risen 10 times 0.18% to 2.00%. !! that insane. -Old balance was around 1:3 ratio > 0.75% to 0.18%
Pls consider to hold healthe balance beetween broker Fee and Tax we dont care how much % u will set up but hold balance like it was in past, Ratio with higher Sales Tax! |
Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
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Posted - 2016.05.05 00:09:31 -
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Why...'t is clear as the summer sun. Thou hast ne'er attended an economics class.
Methinks someone is visualizing strip mall "trade hubs". Methinks one mistakes a pop & pop shop for a WalMart.
The first rule of any business is: Location. Location! LOCATION!! The idea you're going to build another Jita is preposterous off the scale. These "markets" are to bring Jita to your people saving them the trip. You will NEVER build another Jita. Ever. Ever! EVER!! |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.05.05 04:38:07 -
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Not sure about the poster above me but I agree with the OP.
The large increase in Tax and Brokers Fees is not a good business decision by CCP. People play this game to make ISK and have the freedom of choice to play how they want, not be forced to play how others want them to play.
Probably best to start reprocessing assets into minerals before that also get's taxed to high hell.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2016.05.05 05:41:32 -
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From my limited experience building and selling ammo/ drones/ ships and t1 mods, I can tell you that if your selling to buy orders your loosing your ass
To the tune of about 10%
I don't build anymore because of idiots like you who don't value the matirials used to make stuff.
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CaesarGREG
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2016.05.05 10:53:13 -
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Sustrai Aditua wrote:Why...'t is clear as the summer sun. Thou hast ne'er attended an economics class.
Methinks someone is visualizing strip mall "trade hubs". Methinks one mistakes a pop & pop shop for a WalMart.
The first rule of any business is: Location. Location! LOCATION!! The idea you're going to build another Jita is preposterous off the scale. These "markets" are to bring Jita to your people saving them the trip. You will NEVER build another Jita. Ever. Ever! EVER!!
Nobody want build second jita , its abaut destroying markets current situation makes effeort wich ppl place in trade skills and standing not rewarding, in past doing standing u could get 1.25% > 0.18% profit for doing standings skills 600% now 3% > 2% , profit 50%, curent change kill traders, all of them haulers , market traders. Its not abaut jita, jita will hurt less smaller hubs like hek, dodixie, ammar will hurt more, its bad for customers ,producers too, they have to sit and sell good themselfs.
Disfunction of market , why ccp created Trade skills? they dont mater so much anymore. will be no profesions anymore. Its bad for game, this game was great because u could do many things in it. U could choose be miner, trader, Rattkiller, ... |
Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
255
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Posted - 2016.05.05 14:19:55 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Not sure about the poster above me but I agree with the OP.
The large increase in Tax and Brokers Fees is not a good business decision by CCP. People play this game to make ISK and have the freedom of choice to play how they want, not be forced to play how others want them to play.
Probably best to start reprocessing assets into minerals before that also get's taxed to high hell.
DMC
Or sell your assets to me
I'll buy for 75% jita
Which is still way more than you would get reprocessing it all.
Just wondering? After you reprocess everything, then what lol
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Neurotox
Brave Operations - Lollipop Division I N F A M O U S
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Posted - 2016.05.05 14:34:07 -
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Wont happen, CCP sunk too much time into Citadels for them to fail.
Don't like the fees? Erect a Citadel and supply a market for it.
It's going to be a slow and painful process for those who don't want to migrate. Which is fine because there's more opportunities for isk to be made.
Point is, get out of NPC stations. |
sci0gon
Kaira Innovations Superior Eve Engineering
67
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Posted - 2016.05.05 14:46:02 -
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Neurotox wrote:Point is, get out of NPC stations.
or...... push your prices up to account for the taxes and this will force those who place buy orders to push their prices up too. |
CaesarGREG
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2016.05.05 16:43:55 -
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Neurotox wrote:Wont happen, CCP sunk too much time into Citadels for them to fail.
Don't like the fees? Erect a Citadel and supply a market for it.
It's going to be a slow and painful process for those who don't want to migrate. Which is fine because there's more opportunities for isk to be made.
Point is, get out of NPC stations.
Nobody understand topic,
1.topic is abaut balance between Sales Tax and broker fee , in past Tax was 3 times higher than broker!!(0.75% >0.18%) Was good wasnt punishing ppl for not sold orders. was 1:3 if broker is 2% tax should be abaut at least 1:2 minimum 4%.
2. Profit for geting perfect skills and standings . if Tax is 5% should be around 1% after skills and standings. Profit for get skills 500% if broker fee base is 5% now after skills should be around 0.5-1.25% around 500%. Now is 50% not enough to pay off effort for geting skills 3% >2% broker fee down.
BTW Trade citadels sooner or erlier will be burned down. Side effect , destroyed market balance wich was working many years. They wanet replace broken POS mechanics and spagheti code of POS. As i've heard . Why destroy market too. |
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