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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.16 06:47:47 -
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That's fine so long as I get to be Jamelia. |
Nitshe Razvedka
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Posted - 2016.05.16 08:15:44 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:
LS Voltron (whatever you guys call yourselves). A loose coalition of low sex pirate groups.
As one of the good guys I can tell you its quite rewarding to battle the people who steal ore and ice, make death threats in local and email and generally make a habit of botting and bot like activities. They harm the game, harm other players and yes, even harm themselves. Saving them from their terrible behavior isn't profitable in terms of ISK but it gives me such a warm feeling of satisfaction that it acts like a mild aphrodisiac. I recommend it to any low sex pirates. Just don't expect anyone to join you with advertising like that.
New Jovian Tech has arrivedClick and listen to the Bing rhetoric again.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2863
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Posted - 2016.05.16 08:55:08 -
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im a pirate and will shoot and pod anything not blue to me and basically be a **** in local and will quite happily jump into highsec and gank something just for a laugh, however people still trust me with isk when it comes to doing my job, even people i dont even know and its pretty satisfying to know you are a pretty trusted person within a game where nobody trusts anyone.
I seen a venture autopiloting through lowsec by a newbie the other day, i shoot it and i pod him back home, ill sent him some isk with a note "dont autopilot thx".
Ill honor my word whatever the situation, does that make me a good guy?
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.16 10:46:05 -
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The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.
That's something you can't buy with ISK.
A signature :o
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2478
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Posted - 2016.05.17 22:04:40 -
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Lan Wang wrote:im a pirate and will shoot and pod anything not blue to me and basically be a **** in local and will quite happily jump into highsec and gank something just for a laugh <3 <3 <3
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2478
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Posted - 2016.05.17 22:08:04 -
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Shallanna Yassavi wrote:The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.
That's something you can't buy with ISK. A good advice for Nitshe who at one time was convinced he will end us by throwing money at his merc "friends"
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Nitshe Razvedka
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Posted - 2016.05.17 23:32:34 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.
That's something you can't buy with ISK. A good advice for Nitshe who at one time was convinced he will end us by throwing money at his merc "friends"
Didn't I say that was only the foreplay. Now you're all hot n bothered. Waiting for me to .........
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7693
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Posted - 2016.05.18 06:30:27 -
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Good guy is a rather strange definition in this game.
I have seen "bad guys" do good, and people who thought they were good do bad. There have been players who thought they had to do bad things because the game required it, but in that mindset, never lost the idea that it's a game and would still end up being altruistic towards new players.
And not all that glitters is gold. There is some idea that AG are a bunch of Trilbie-wearing white knights (the actual hats a white knight wears is a Trilbie, not a Fedora - know your internet phenotypes) but this is not the case. A good lot of them simply find the tears of gankers to be a lot sweeter and even with the game mechanics stacked against them, it's just that much more nourishing.
I have known lowsec pirates reimburse ships just for the asking so long as you would give some consideration for their advice.
The way the game is set up, the rules of engagement just about require murder. If you don't kill that T1 frigate in your nullsec pocket, that might be the cyno ship. Are they being evil? Are you? Doubt it. And does anybody do a low/null roam with say Spectre Fleet out of pure malice? I have been in some of those fleets and have yet to see malice.
Beyond that we have all seen that the player base can be charitable when the situation calls for it.
So while it would be nice to have a clear black hat versus white hat thing going on, and there are players who exhibit a little too much Ego and/or Id into things (chances are they do this with everything), it's simply not going to happen.
We're all Chaotic Neutral.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2881
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Posted - 2016.05.18 06:35:50 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.
That's something you can't buy with ISK. A good advice for Nitshe who at one time was convinced he will end us by throwing money at his merc "friends"
you always have a home in fetid poppet
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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice TSOE Consortium
81
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Posted - 2016.05.18 07:44:23 -
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Perspective and personal (deluded) reasoning.
Two main drives for being the good guy. You can find good guys everywhere. Even here in the previous posts and even if they themselves don't realize it.
The character does not represent the views/opinions of its Corporation or Alliance.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.18 07:56:43 -
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I am always a paragon of justice and fairness in everything I do. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2016.05.18 08:38:25 -
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So... what exactly is a good guy?
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2016.05.18 08:46:57 -
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Shallanna Yassavi wrote:The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.
That's something you can't buy with ISK.
Surely, the best ship is HARDship? It is a more reliable companion in Life and in EVE, for it never lies or cheats and its benefits are universally available - if you have the temperament and ability to profit from them.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.18 09:15:27 -
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But without your friendship for reps, how will you be able to tank the DPS of the hardship long enough to extract the ransom. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
314
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Posted - 2016.05.18 09:28:47 -
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Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.
That's something you can't buy with ISK. Surely, the best ship is HARDship? It is a more reliable companion in Life and in EVE, for it never lies or cheats and its benefits are universally available - if you have the temperament and ability to profit from them.
So can we have all your stuffz so that you can enjoy hardship properly?
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7698
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Posted - 2016.05.18 18:25:23 -
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So last night I helped a freighter through the gank pipeline.
With a ganking alt.
I'll leave it up to you people to figure out what I mean by "help".
You see why I like this game so much.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2016.05.18 19:27:46 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:But without your friendship for reps, how will you be able to tank the DPS of the hardship long enough to extract the ransom.
Er..... HARD 2nd a/c Repper/Booster/Links
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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2016.05.18 19:29:39 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:The best ship in EVE is the friend ship.
That's something you can't buy with ISK. Surely, the best ship is HARDship? It is a more reliable companion in Life and in EVE, for it never lies or cheats and its benefits are universally available - if you have the temperament and ability to profit from them. So can we have all your stuffz so that you can enjoy hardship properly?
I'm a true HARD player, Sir; I don't have 'stuffz'
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.18 19:35:02 -
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Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:But without your friendship for reps, how will you be able to tank the DPS of the hardship long enough to extract the ransom. Er..... HARD 2nd a/c Repper/Booster/Links
mine sounded like 800% better |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
308
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Posted - 2016.05.20 08:39:06 -
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If I prevent you from doing evil deeds by applying disproportionate amounts of ECM, thereby saving the lives of friends who came through the cyno alongside me... does that not truly make me the best buddy you ever had? |
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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice TSOE Consortium
81
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Posted - 2016.05.20 12:26:21 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:So... what exactly is a good guy?
Something Janitors in space stations clean off of ship hulls.
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Sykaotic
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2016.05.23 07:11:10 -
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be good to be bad... |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1150
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Posted - 2016.05.23 09:21:08 -
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maybe because some peoples good nature doesnt allow them to be total scumbags to other players and doesnt make them forget that other players are humans with feelings too. Just a thought.
"Nothing to win" isnt quite true too, blowing up "scumbags" can be very satisfying, I imagine. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
323
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Posted - 2016.05.23 21:30:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:So... what exactly is a good guy? Something Janitors in space stations clean off of ship hulls.
Then there are plenty of good guys in eve.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Tengu Grib
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
1516
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:50:36 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I am always a paragon of justice and fairness in everything I do.
Confirming.
Rabble Rabble Rabble
Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
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Drammie Askold
Saints Of Havoc I N G L O R I O U S
38
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Posted - 2016.06.05 16:53:43 -
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What the **** is a 'moral compass'? What slot does it fit in and what's the CPU requirements?
What New Eden needed was Wise Immortal Philosopher Kings. What New Eden got was Sociopathic Immortal poo-flinging monkeys . . . vOv
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Thomas en Chasteaux
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.06.17 12:41:01 -
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kronlor wrote: So it makes me question what if any are the benefits to having any sort of moral compass at all in this game? I just dont see any benefit to being allies with concord, and not being the greatest scumbag possible. There are grand rewards for those who can scam and steal the best, but nothing for those who play by the rules. The honest good guys i guess have nothing to gain, and everything to lose.
If all that you value in space life, is the pile of ISK you have accumulated, and a throne of corpses surrounded by pixels trophies...
Then of course, you would see nothing of value in being guided by a moral compass. Nor would you recognize any value or any reward for saving someone's clone butt in a time of hopelessness and need.
If ISK is your only measure of self-worth, then you are simply a mercenary - a soldier of fortune - whose mark on the timeline of New Eden will be small and temporary.
For you will have built nothing that lasted, changed nothing that mattered, inpsired no one to do anything greater.
For those who are guided by better angels, seek out the Signal Cartel or the High Sec Militia.
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Crinnfika
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2016.06.17 20:01:34 -
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In the real world being the "good guy" (aka not screwing people over) leads to having good social connections that you can count on in times of need, which generally leads to a higher quality of life and a safer and more stable environment for you and your family to live in. Civilization was born when humans realized that 2 people working together have more food than 2 people working against each other with the benefits increasing with the more people you had working together.
However in a videogame like eve it's hard to replicate that. In eve things like not starving to death and raising a family are not concerns, and fear of death is less of a thing since dying is only a inconvenience rather than the end of a person's existence.
The other thing is that in gaming violence is often the form of entertainment, whereas in real life violence is painful and really sucky. |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
332
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Posted - 2016.06.17 21:16:56 -
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Crinnfika wrote:In the real world being the "good guy" (aka not screwing people over) leads to having good social connections that you can count on in times of need, which generally leads to a higher quality of life and a safer and more stable environment for you and your family to live in.
Counting on people in times of need ... Quality of life ... safe and stable environment ... where do you live??
It is my experience EvE is a lot (and I mean a LOT) more forgiving than real life in terms of for example tax rates, the harm inflicted by a perfectly executed awox or scam, the general tolerance of the playerbase...
In the utopia that is New Eden however, your argument stands. |
Glengrant
TOHA Heavy Industries TOHA Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2016.06.18 02:19:21 -
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Anybody who requires rewards to be good is actually a mercenary.
Be a good guy (whatever that means in practice) because you want to - or don't. |
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