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Ferrus Kanus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.08 00:28:28 -
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People always wonder, why does eve have so low levels of player retention, i can tell you why as a young pilot, we cant do anything! The game is rigged for age, not skill, i remember vets telling me the difference is "versatility". Really? WHAT ARE SUPPORT SKILLS THAT MAKE YOU SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY FOR THEN!. Versatile my ass, more like keep you waiting for YEARS before you can be useful for any group in game, or be apart of a mindless blob if not get mauled apart by another. Or those elite pvpers who spit on people like me because i make money on my main as well as pvp on it, WELL I DONT HAVE BILLIONS STASHED FROM "EASY ISK" LIKE YOU BECAUSE I DONT HAVE XXX hundred million sp. CCp ghost wants us younger players to be highly competent when we join a corp, did he fail to mention that you wont be useful until 2 years in? OH BOY RANT OVER
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Ferrus Kanus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2016.05.08 00:32:07 -
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Im sorry for the rant but its true, the gap between older and younger player is so large that in the eyes of most newbies its not worth committing, asking for years to wait is insane, most of the vets didnt have to do it because they didnt have super players acting as their overlords |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15517
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Posted - 2016.05.08 00:33:39 -
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you say rant over but i think you have a little more in you.
Better the Devil you know.
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Ferrus Kanus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.08 00:37:28 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:you say rant over but i think you have a little more in you.
No, i am just bitter, im 21 million sp and i can still do barely any crap, i was told at this point is when the game gets good, half decent isk wouldnt be so difficult to earn.....etc Eves a great game but that sp gap really gets me sometimes. |
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
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Posted - 2016.05.08 00:39:48 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:Im sorry for the rant but its true, the gap between older and younger player is so large that in the eyes of most newbies its not worth committing, asking for years to wait is insane, most of the vets didnt have to do it because they didnt have super players acting as their overlords
Months at most IMO, and with the skills new characters start with now, even less time. In hindsight I wasted a lot of my first year by not focusing, but try to figure what you want to do first and the skill towards it.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15517
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Posted - 2016.05.08 00:41:13 -
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hmmm have you at any point joined a player corp?
Better the Devil you know.
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Ferrus Kanus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.08 00:46:42 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:hmmm have you at any point joined a player corp? im an fw player living in lowsec, and im in the irish channel with you, this char is my keep it clean on the forums alt. |
Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
169
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Posted - 2016.05.08 01:25:52 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:hmmm have you at any point joined a player corp? im an fw player living in lowsec, and im in the irish channel with you, this char is my keep it clean on the forums alt. lol
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11963
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Posted - 2016.05.08 01:27:39 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:im 21 million sp
There's your problem
You insist on defining yourself by how many skill points you have, not on what you can accomplish with what you've got
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
207
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Posted - 2016.05.08 02:28:52 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:you say rant over but i think you have a little more in you. No, i am just bitter, im 21 million sp and i can still do barely any crap, i was told at this point is when the game gets good, half decent isk wouldnt be so difficult to earn.....etc Eves a great game but that sp gap really gets me sometimes.
It's not that you have 21 mil sp and still cant do anything, it's the fact that even with 21 mil sp to HELP you, you are still sh-¦t at the game, I did plenty to have a good time with a fifth of your sp. Now I have 27 mil sp, but all that really dictates is which ships I can fly now. Skill is 90% of the game, but it seems that yours is lacking so all thats left is sp, which doesnt account for much.
Results are as expected.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Falcon's truth
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Chewytowel Haklar
Project RESET
148
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Posted - 2016.05.08 02:32:03 -
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Are you at all running level 4 FW missions or going on the offense and trying to take plexes? I mean LP is one of the best ways to make plenty of isk in FW, and being in a corp that is half decent should make it even easier. There are people that can easily make a billion or so without much effort.
You might however prefer a less hostile environment where you can make isk for your fw endeavors. Running level 4's, DED's, ratting in lo or null, etc... these are decent ways of making isk on the side as well and you won't need years to make that a reality. But you do need to be prepared for fw and the losses you are going to endure, and have plenty of isk to blow for that alone. |
Ferrus Kanus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.08 02:46:42 -
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i wrote this post in a fit of anger, and for your reference i have a 94% billboard efficiency |
Chewytowel Haklar
Project RESET
148
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Posted - 2016.05.08 03:17:24 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:i wrote this post in a fit of anger, and for your reference i have a 94% billboard efficiency
So 6% of those billboards actually fought back successfully? Other than that I have no idea why you would have been complaining at all if you are 'that' good at pvp. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15520
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Posted - 2016.05.08 03:25:19 -
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hay man , bill boards are mean mother****ers
Better the Devil you know.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2016.05.08 03:25:30 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:i wrote this post in a fit of anger, and for your reference i have a 94% billboard efficiency
i call BS, if you're truly an FW pilot just like me, post with your main. i'm also new, but i don't understand your rant, it's like coming from a spoiled self-entitled man-child.
Just Add Water
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Ferrus Kanus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.08 03:38:28 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Ferrus Kanus wrote:i wrote this post in a fit of anger, and for your reference i have a 94% billboard efficiency i call BS, if you're truly an FW pilot just like me, post with your main. i'm also new, but i don't understand your rant, it's like coming from a spoiled self-entitled man-child. indeed it does, it seems you have ignored my later posts, and there is a reason why i am not speaking on my main, see if you can figure it out. |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Violence of Action.
1173
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Posted - 2016.05.08 03:45:33 -
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If you "cant do anything" @ 21m SP, you've managed to train completely useless skills.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
386
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Posted - 2016.05.08 05:17:05 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:... Versatile my ass, ... Ok, but you might not like it. |
Sp3ktr3
Unicorn Rampage
29
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Posted - 2016.05.08 05:38:41 -
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I thought I had misread this as "New Player Retardation", but if you're losing fights to unarmed, stationary billboards then that might have been a better title for this thread after all. Seriously though, 21m skillpoints is more than enough to be effective in this game, as long as you take the time to learn the mechanics of how things work. You won't be completely optimal in some areas, but that's not as important as developing ACTUAL skill.
I wish I could read the original post, I'm curious as to what it said. Anyway I hope things work out for you. |
Hawke Frost
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Posted - 2016.05.08 05:46:13 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:Im sorry for the rant but its true, the gap between older and younger player is so large that in the eyes of most newbies its not worth committing, asking for years to wait is insane, most of the vets didnt have to do it because they didnt have super players acting as their overlords
Is doing a lvl 1 quest to kill 5 wolves less fun than a lvl 100 quest to kill 5 dire wolves?
You don't need to wait, you don't need fancy ships, expensive nonsense or anything. any newbie can make it here, and fairly quickly as well, as long as he puts in the effort. There's lots of examples of newer, low SP, players doing it right, making it big and getting well known.
As long as you keep giving yourself boring numerical goals (isk, sp) then the game will be boring. Instead find something funky to do and go do that, with all your effort. It'll work out. It's not about skill points and the game doesn't suddenly become fun or "better" at some SP threshold. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
15522
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Posted - 2016.05.08 07:58:53 -
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Actually came across the op's main in my travels last night, sound lad, Indeed fw and not a mewling bear, was cool and humble enough so the story checks out, was not tempted to maliciously wardec and hunt or hotdrop him upon ingame chat (which is odd because i would do so to most of ye in a heart beat)
My thoughts : premerure bittervet (bitternewbro?) syndrome, i recommend the op vent on some unsuspecting punching bag shitcorp and start the cycle again.
Better the Devil you know.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
10139
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Posted - 2016.05.08 08:12:53 -
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The plague is spreading! These new recruits, they are so weak..
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
458
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Posted - 2016.05.08 09:10:46 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:Nat Silverguard wrote:Ferrus Kanus wrote:i wrote this post in a fit of anger, and for your reference i have a 94% billboard efficiency i call BS, if you're truly an FW pilot just like me, post with your main. i'm also new, but i don't understand your rant, it's like coming from a spoiled self-entitled man-child. indeed it does, it seems you have ignored my later posts, and there is a reason why i am not speaking on my main, see if you can figure it out.
and your point? i post on my main and i stand for whatever i say, i said alot of dumb things here on the forums and alot of people took jabs at me aswell, still no reason to hide behind an alt.
21M SP is already a lot for a FW pilot. you should already have a racial frigate, a racial cruiser and a logistic skill trained to level 5; a small and a medium t2 turret system (both long and short range), light, & medium T2 drones skills atleast trained to level 4; 1 type of defensive (armor or shield) skills inlcuding all 4 compensation types trained to level 5; and core fitting skills trained to level 5 at this point. if you don't and your corp didn't advice you to do that then leave your corp because they are bad.
Just Add Water
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ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1174
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Posted - 2016.05.08 15:03:28 -
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Ferrus Kanus wrote:Please lock this thread, i have made an embarrassment of myself. I dont want to continue it further. Thread closed.
ISD Fractal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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