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Euripides Das
House Of Troy
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Posted - 2007.02.25 04:37:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=481166
LV sure hasn't been making many friends lately.
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.02.25 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: ER0X
The further possibility arises from this scenario that the login details of the member who has access to the forum in question then passes the login details to a third party. The third party then uses the log in details to reverse engineer with php scripting techniques in order to access server areas where personal data is viewable.
Haaaaang on mr internet lawyer. This is starting to verge into the realms of defamation here. The guy in question, a member of LV, was given a user name and password, and specifically access to the eve-online segment on the forum. To the best of my understanding, theres no implication that he 'hacked' anything more than that. When you guys talk about credit cards, and whatnot, you guys are suggesting your members made that info available on the forum there. Quite simply I dont believe you. Now, considering LV have had , and apparently still do, spys in goonfleet (after all , how do you KNOW stuff was copied?) , you guys also cant claim clean hands here.
Now the tickbox doesnt mean anything. Was there a digital signature or some sort of proof that HE was the one who agreed. Can you say 100% someone else didnt click it, and give the account to him. Is there a clause saying the account cant be transfered? Did you have a physical witness. Seriously, EULAS for forums mean jack all. Especially when most state the punishment is losing the account. Well guess what you kicked him out. Breach remedied as per 'pre agreed' e-contract.
And precisely what jurastiction did the e-contract become breached in. Dow Jones vs Joe Gutnick specifies publication occurs in the country of the consumer. One cant sue him in finland dude, only in whatever country he is in.
Now considering that there are no material losses (They have NO assets in eve-online, as I've stated, as only CCP do), no evidence beyond reasonable doubt that it was him, and not , say, some disgruntled ex LVer that agreed to the click agreememt, no clear jurastiction, its a flipping computer game, and so on, MAYBE , just just maybe, its more than a little possible that this is a vexatious complaint, and Stoffer ought be apologised to post-haste. He's got a hell of a case to countersue for harassment, and with 2 lawyers running goonfleet, he's certainly got the resources to do so.
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Victoria DeBurr
Gallente Renyn Supply Company
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Posted - 2007.02.25 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rover Vitesse Okay, my last post on this, gonna clear a few things up, and then you can carry on your little rant. Posted - 24/02/2007 20:52:00
Then he posts this:
Originally by: Rover Vitesse
I don't know wether you're being deliberatley obtuse, stupid, or you just haven't read the thread. I'll pretend the last, and suggest you read it again, before even throwing baseless accusations about. Read in particular my post on page five where I explain a few things for the hard of thinking, Mr Ameropey. Posted - 2007.02.24 23:44:00
Let me repeat this.
Originally by: Rover Vitesse Okay, my last post on this, gonna clear a few things up, and then you can carry on your little rant. Posted - 24/02/2007 20:52:00
So why hasn't LV kicked them out and set them to -10? Are they scared, or does LV support their actions?
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prathe
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.25 06:16:00 -
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not enough internet lawyers and cry babies in this thread
time for the click lock i think
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Mi Lai
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.25 06:21:00 -
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Even if LV would have the so called 'moral high-ground' in this, it's still pathetic to degrade to this level.
Even if their accusations are fully acknowledged, you know CCP isnt going to do anyhting about it. Just look at broken complex-farming, using 'spawned T2 BPO's' for 6 months and whatever.
Just frakking die with some dignity FFS. You had a great run, you been respected by many and feared by some. You forged and then lost a coalition of Alliances. You fought an adversary close to extinction, and have been beaten back. Now just go and put out your last breath in peace.
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Tod Klemp
Gallente K-Street Project
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Posted - 2007.02.25 06:27:00 -
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Edited by: Tod Klemp on 25/02/2007 06:24:31
Originally by: Frogzuk Edited by: Frogzuk on 25/02/2007 03:50:00
Originally by: Jags Regardless of the legalities im ****in ashamed to be part of an alliance that is doing this kinds of thing.
I see LV members are now seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, LV and BoB have been doing alot of things that aren't right.
BoB has been spying / hacking and wot not for years, LV got in the same bed with BoB, now they don't like it happening to them they are taking it to court i mean wtf.....
Guys it is a game, but let it serve as a warning to all there are some people out there that are bitter and when things get too bad start clutching at straws !
Shame on LV again, you tarnished reputation has been further tarnished !
Froggy
How about you STFU on EO and go back to squabbling with the rest of your ****ty alliance memebrs about running missions in empire via your alliance mails? Maybe you can also leak to goonfleet your inentions to strong arm your way with them for the 0-w refinery. You and your alliance are beyond a joke and shouldnt even be allowed to read, let alone post here.
The rest of this forum has no reached a new low. I hope everyone is happy to be associated with the lowest of the low here.
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INZi
coracao ardente Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.25 08:39:00 -
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oh hi! i are in your computahrz haxingz ur emo
please chill! eve is getting out of hand
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Zhuge Liang
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.02.25 09:12:00 -
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This forum is for the discussion of ingame corporation and alliance politics.
It will not be moved to Out of Pod Experience as we do not allow RL politics or threads of a political nature there either.
Thread locked.
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