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Netan MalDoran
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Posted - 2016.05.15 16:53:09 -
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Hello community!
I have decided to try and make a video series detailing many topics from the perspective of a new character in the game, not only to show new players how to do stuff, but also show them that they CAN do stuff with a new account other than mine. I just uploaded my first video here which is the first part of my intro, you dont really get any ship action yet, but I go through and explain what all station services do and all of the overview menus.
So please, I need feedback! If its mostly positive, I'll continue the series, if you feel that its bad, tell me why! If too many people disagree I'll just spend more time making wrecks instead
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.05.15 18:08:04 -
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Well, +1 for trying to contribute helpful info to new players. There's actually a lot of videos already done by a lot of people so if it's something you really like doing, then go for it. However if it's not really your thing but you still wanna be helpful, you can view other players videos and inform them of any missing / incorrect info.
In my opinion to have a successful instructional video series, those videos need to be short, sweet and to the point. Mainly consist of basic info and facts about game mechanics.
I watched some of your video but it's way too long and new players will forget the stuff as soon as you go to the next topic. I suggest it be split up into different short videos, each one describing a specific aspect of the game for the new player.
For example station services, each service could be it's own video. That way new players can access specific info much more easily and more importantly they won't get confused by information overload.
Anyway, good luck to you.
DMC
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Netan MalDoran
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Posted - 2016.05.15 19:05:29 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote: I watched some of your video but it's way too long and new players will forget the stuff as soon as you go to the next topic. I suggest it be split up into different short videos, each one describing a specific aspect of the game for the new player. DMC
Hmm, yeah I plan on having a the other ones smaller and on specific topics, I didn't think of splitting up this one into two parts though, but you're right, it would be easier to view if they are separated by topics.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2016.05.15 23:43:32 -
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Personally, my only problem with instruction videos is that I see them as a commitment to teach rather than a one-shot deal. Someone might make a video. It might be super good. But six months to two years from now, it will be inaccurate to one degree or another as the meta keeps changing.
So when you make videos etc, schedule a review every six months or so, to keep them from growing outdated and confusing.
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Netan MalDoran
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Posted - 2016.05.16 01:49:19 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:Personally, my only problem with instruction videos is that I see them as a commitment to teach rather than a one-shot deal. Someone might make a video. It might be super good. But six months to two years from now, it will be inaccurate to one degree or another as the meta keeps changing.
So when you make videos etc, schedule a review every six months or so, to keep them from growing outdated and confusing.
Yeah, I noticed that a lot of the YouTube tutorials in existence are a couple years old, for things like pve it's not that different now, but topics such as industry and exploration have changed quite significantly.
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Evasive Shadow Assassin
Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation
3484
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Posted - 2016.05.17 19:45:53 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:Hello community! I have decided to try and make a video series detailing many topics from the perspective of a new character in the game, not only to show new players how to do stuff, but also show them that they CAN do stuff with a new account other than mine. I just uploaded my first video here which is the first part of my intro, you dont really get any ship action yet, but I go through and explain what all station services do and all of the overview menus. So please, I need feedback! If its mostly positive, I'll continue the series, if you feel that its bad, tell me why! If too many people disagree I'll just spend more time making wrecks instead
Ill agree you have good options but ti put a claim as "the first new player video series/tutorial" is rubbish as i have a 40+ video guide on eve and have had for 6 months. I also make videos daily on eve from missions to go knows what else
https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=EgIIBQ%253D%253D&q=eve+online+tutorial <-- lots of up to date tutorials, people are just stupid and don't know how to use youtube search functions
Do research before making claims, this isn't a troll i just want to save you embarrassment
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Netan MalDoran
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Posted - 2016.05.17 20:19:19 -
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Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:Netan MalDoran wrote:Hello community! I have decided to try and make a video series detailing many topics from the perspective of a new character in the game, not only to show new players how to do stuff, but also show them that they CAN do stuff with a new account other than mine. I just uploaded my first video here which is the first part of my intro, you dont really get any ship action yet, but I go through and explain what all station services do and all of the overview menus. So please, I need feedback! If its mostly positive, I'll continue the series, if you feel that its bad, tell me why! If too many people disagree I'll just spend more time making wrecks instead Ill agree you have good options but ti put a claim as "the first new player video series/tutorial" is rubbish as i have a 40+ video guide on eve and have had for 6 months. I also make videos daily on eve from missions to go knows what else https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=EgIIBQ%253D%253D&q=eve+online+tutorial <-- lots of up to date tutorials, people are just stupid and don't know how to use youtube search functions Do research before making claims, this isn't a troll i just want to save you embarrassment
For starters, I never said that this is THE first ever video tutorials, If you actually read my post you would see that this is my first PERSONAL video.
And second, yes I did actually look through youtube, and no I never said that ALL the videos were old, only that most of them are. If you search 'eve online tutorial' right now in youtube this is the demographics for the first page: 20 videos 35% Were made in the last year 20% Were made a year ago 25% Were made 2 years ago 10% Were made 3 years ago 10% Were made 5 years ago
So yes, I did do 'research' and MOST of the videos are in fact old, however some (Including yours) are being updated to hold correct info.
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Evasive Shadow Assassin
Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation
3484
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Posted - 2016.05.17 20:37:27 -
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The videos are listed as old because you simply use one search parameter i.e eve online tutorial
However, as a youtuber you've made one mistake which you shouldnt do n thats make longer than 20 minute video tutorial
but there is a refine search area for "this month" or "this year".
etc etc
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12088
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Posted - 2016.05.19 22:35:51 -
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How much money do you get per view?
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Areen Sassel
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Posted - 2016.05.19 23:02:10 -
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Bumblefck wrote:How much money do you get per view?
Oh, Bumble, you bitter cynic. :-) |
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Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
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Posted - 2016.05.20 01:49:09 -
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Bumblefck wrote:How much money do you get per view?
Did you see any ads? Nope.
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Evasive Shadow Assassin
Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation
3518
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Posted - 2016.05.23 01:34:17 -
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Bumblefck wrote:How much money do you get per view?
Oh my, this is the shot you want to take?
Firebladez Gaming is 4 rl friends i.e me n 3 others covering games, rl events, as much as we can.
Views - Not money
Subs - Not money
Watch Time - Money
Proper uploads n tags - money
Bottom line is fella
Your videos
To long, boring, cover **** new players dont need to know, your ego = shite video
End of. New players to eve? They watch my videos because i dont try n be summit special
Im a cocky SOB who makes tutorial videos for fun, get rich? HAHA, don;t be stupid.
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Areen Sassel
106
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Posted - 2016.05.23 12:42:56 -
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Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:Bumblefck wrote:How much money do you get per view? Right so you want to be like that? Fine, your video, is god awful, it pertains a crap ton of information,
Bumble has a video? News to me.
(Free hint: I think you've confused the OP with someone else.) |
Evasive Shadow Assassin
Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation
3518
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Posted - 2016.05.23 12:49:21 -
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Areen Sassel wrote:Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote:Bumblefck wrote:How much money do you get per view? Right so you want to be like that? Fine, your video, is god awful, it pertains a crap ton of information, Bumble has a video? News to me. (Free hint: I think you've confused the OP with someone else.)
Well shite
Yeh haha
K i'm a ****
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12104
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Posted - 2016.05.23 13:12:34 -
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Quote:Well shite
Yeh haha
K i'm a ****
Indeed. Perhaps consider not immediately overreacting in the future, though the inevitable future meltdown will probably be popcorn-worthy.
OP: True, no ads - but the sheer proliferation of EVE videos recently on subjects that surely don't need them (Level 2 missions and logging in, really?) does make me suspicious (and I am innately cynical anyway, which perhaps reflects more on me) about the motives of the people posting these things (for a pretty good example check out the posts of the player I quoted). I am always wary of monetisation paths that are hidden to me (because I simply don't really know how these things work), but are common knowledge to those who are savvy
That being said, though, I of course wish you the best of luck with your video series and hope it reaches a wider audience. Thanks for your hard work
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