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Moac Tor
Cyber Core Stain Confederation
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Posted - 2016.05.22 02:16:45 -
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Genoir wrote:Quote: Ok, here is a lesson in economics so that you can understand why people are unhappy with this. To clarify I disagree with the concept of rewards based around logging in completely, players should want to login anyway and if you need to incentivise players to login to the game using cheap tricks, then you should take a good look at the game in general to figure out why people don't want to play in the first place.
And to the question, the reason people are unhappy with using SP as a reward is that it devalues SP.
To give you this as an example as it me be more easily understandable.
Let us say you earn -ú20,000 a year, and there is -ú1billion in the total economy in circulation. The bank decides to print off another -ú1billion effectively doubling the amount of money in the economy.
If you are following you have probably realised that your previous salary of -ú20,000 per year is now actually worth -ú10,000 year despite the fact that you are not actually losing any physical money and are still on a salary of -ú20,000 per year.
You also had -ú100,000 in saving which you had worked hard to save up for putting away half your salary each year for the past ten years. This again is now actually only worth -ú50,000 effectively halving your investment in real terms.
Now apply this to skill points. In order to keep up with our current salary (SP/hour), we now being told we need to login to kill a rat every day. If your boss told you that you need to stay behind at work for another 3 hours for the same salary, then I expect you may feel like he is penalising you wouldn't you?
Like I said though, for me it is just the fact that CCP is using this lame mechanic in order to get people to login rather than working on making a fundamentally good game. The fact that they are linking the reward soley to one of the most boring PvE activities in the game just shows how poorly thought out the idea really is.
You know that's not how it works right? Possibly the single worst example you could have made. Your 'lesson in economics' aside. The analogy about working an additional 3 hours to get the same salary is also woefully incorrect. You'll continue to receive your standard 'salary' but you are being given the chance to get paid 3 hours 'overtime' for staying 5 minutes late. Your not understanding the concept of inflation which will mean that SP is devalued. So yes you have an extra 300k more SP if you login everyday, but relatively the SP will be worth less than this.
Modulated ECM Effects
An Alternative to Skill Trading
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Hawke Frost
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Posted - 2016.05.22 02:23:34 -
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ube smoked wrote:CCP = Making content for null. Reality = Nobody is in null. CCP = But it makes for great videos! Reality = Nobody cares.
I'm amazed this has been going on for so long. CCP has zero insight. They are lost.
Lots of people are in null, just not the ones who got driven out these last few weeks. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2016.05.22 03:04:53 -
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ube smoked wrote:I'm amazed this has been going on for so long. CCP has zero insight. They are lost.
People who make these kinds of statements actually mean "CCP isn't listening to ME, and that's the problem."
The very fact that the game is still alive after 13 years proves they have greater-than-zero insight. There are several MMO's that have closed down, and several others that have been "rescued" not by feature releases (like EVE), but by tricks like microtransactions.
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Also, this type of drama posting doesn't quite work; it's too easy to disprove.
Case in point: if I say that you have zero brain cells, you can bring all sorts of MRI and CT scans proving you have at least a few million. It's also common sense anatomy that you have more than a few, if you're alive. On the other hand, if I say that you're stupid... well, that's harder to disprove, and thus is a better quality post on my part. |
Blue Macaw
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.05.22 03:21:35 -
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I'd never say no to free SP :3 |
TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.22 04:22:09 -
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Are we even playing the same game? I can't play/access any of my accounts until after logging in and allowing CCP to prime my computer with whatever it deems necessary for me to play the game. Is there actually a way the game can be played without the loggon ritual?
Hangar Videos: CCP/USAWallStreet Love Child
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Raz Muesin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.22 04:56:46 -
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You are bitching they are giving away free sp?
Now I rarely care for free crap, but you have to admit that marketing angle works. I have seen people line up for almost 2 hours for pancakes..... ******* pancakes. Calgary is a well off, modern city and during stampede, the thought of little free flour eggs and milk make you skip work and stand in a line up for stupid amounts of time. I will admit, the first year I worked down town, I lined up twice... but never ******* again.
But every year those lines never got smaller. People want free ****, and if it entices a few extra players to play, oh well. Plus, you need to keep those marketing people feeling like they are contributing. |
ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2016.05.22 06:07:18 -
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Quote: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
Look at that, you made me log in just to deal with this. How dare you. Locked.
~ISD Buldath
Commander
Support, Training and Resources Division
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to EVE-Mails regarding forum moderation.
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