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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.05.23 06:54:28 -
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What would be a better route to go? i like rlml but the reload time is pretty tedious and they dont seem to work too great against anything above a destroyer, so would hams be a better choice, and will they still apply pretty well against smaller targets too?
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W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp The Tuskers Co.
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Posted - 2016.05.23 09:48:02 -
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rapid launchers are the only one worth using (rlmls and rhmls), at least for pvp (assuming you dont fly drakes or similarly silly stuff) |
Lan Wang
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Posted - 2016.05.23 09:51:51 -
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i fly similar silly stuff
Im talking about a pvp tengu
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W0lf Crendraven
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Posted - 2016.05.23 10:11:02 -
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can do both, but hams are better on that ship
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just use that (with snakes and skirmish links as baseline) |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2986
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Posted - 2016.05.23 10:17:01 -
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This is the fit i use, as said the rlml's didnt really do well against anything destroyer and above which was sad :( ill try the hams on this and see if its better.
Ill give your fit a try also as i like the 100nm, so thanks
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
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Posted - 2016.05.23 11:53:22 -
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HAMs have their place, especially in extended t3 brawls.
RLMLs are better for alpha in big fleets or small skirmishes |
Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.24 19:01:57 -
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Lan Wang wrote:This is the fit i use, as said the rlml's didnt really do well against anything destroyer and above which was sad :( ill try the hams on this and see if its better.
Ill give your fit a try also as i like the 100nm, so thanks
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Jesus, what did you try to do with that? Fight a Bhaalgorn or what oO |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3004
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Posted - 2016.05.24 19:08:41 -
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i like trying to solo things out numbered it died lol but the best fun ive ever had with a ship
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Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.24 19:43:50 -
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You have about 100 cap/s more than you need |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.05.24 20:03:56 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:You have about 100 cap/s more than you need
the x-type drains the cap down quite a bit
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2016.05.25 03:48:17 -
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Whats the DPS on it?
It would seem at a glance that you probably wouldn't be able to break a tank quickly enough.
EDIT:
Osmium says it 371/225 with realoads with furies. I would let go of some cap to add some damage in. Try and at least get to 500ish
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2016.05.25 04:44:19 -
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Jeez. 225 DPS, 664m/s, tanks 1433 omni. Everything on there is pimped but the scram. If you're that worried about cap why not go with ancillary boosters? Even this would be a step in the right direction:
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Sure, you have to survive the reload but now you have superior gtfo power. Pimp the scram for more range so you can use it defensively as you run away if need be. Still not exactly the fit I'd go with but damage is way up, speed is way up, reps are almost the same if you run both boosters, but realistically you only want one at a time anyhow. Cap stability is still, umm, stable. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3010
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Posted - 2016.05.25 05:26:21 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Whats the DPS on it?
It would seem at a glance that you probably wouldn't be able to break a tank quickly enough.
EDIT:
Osmium says it 371/225 with realoads with furies. I would let go of some cap to add some damage in. Try and at least get to 500ish if you cut out the two power relays you are still cap stable and if you drop a PDS as well your cap life is 5mins which is plenty time to burn one or two ships and gtfo.
Honestly with your idea it might be better to run a Blastgu rather then rapid lights or a hamgu.
osmium is correct i get 371 iirc with lights and unable to kill anything above a destroyer, with switching to hams it gets to 421,
if i remove a power relay for a ballistic it puts my cap over by 11, so i would have to either sacrafice the crystal omega for a cap implant or run without for 420dps?
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ps. i dont take credit for the original fit, it was modified Laztel version (my bad for the non faction scram)
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2016.05.25 06:38:01 -
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I don't have EFT handy at the moment, but I would try and get your dps over 500 at least, preferably I would want around 600.
When you roam, are you bringing boosts with you? If you do it would allow you to supplement your tank for more deeps. If not I would say let the fit take a bit more neut pressure in exchange for some damage.
I wouldn't recommend switching out the omega, it's more beneficial honestly.
I think Mr Hyde has a Blaster Tengu that you might want to try out.
As for the 100mn I would recommend having links, you won't be able to out run MWD cruisers and they'll have the speed advantage on you.
If I can remember I'll trying a build a tanky tengu and see if I can't figure something out. But Honestly I think you would need to cut some of your cap.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3010
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Posted - 2016.05.25 08:02:50 -
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when i roam solo i dont use links
so changed the rigs out of that fit and switched the power relays, i now hit for 647 dps but cap recharge goes from 85gj/s down to 5gj/s recharge, even a small neut is going to neut that out if i run the x-type? (not really done much theory crafting before)
i like asb's but if im roaming for long periods then cap charges become an issue.
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thanks for all the iput soo far folks :)
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Syrias Bizniz
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Posted - 2016.05.26 23:36:05 -
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Lan Wang wrote:when i roam solo i dont use links
so changed the rigs out of that fit and switched the power relays, i now hit for 647 dps but cap recharge goes from 85gj/s down to 5gj/s recharge, even a small neut is going to neut that out if i run the x-type? (not really done much theory crafting before)
i like asb's but if im roaming for long periods then cap charges become an issue.
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thanks for all the iput soo far folks :)
What you are looking at is the "over" cap. The stuff you have in excess of what your modules use if they perma run. If you get neut pressure, you will still have that sick base regeneration of about what, 100 cap/s at peak? You just also use that cap per second. That doesn't mean you're running dry, it simply means you might have to skip some cycles. Even with a Heavy Neut to your face you'd still tank hella lot of dps.
Edit: Also, HG Crystals, Links + Strong Bluepill and maybe a Deadspace Invul for absolutely ******** active tank recommended :V |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.05.27 11:33:54 -
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cheers for highlighting that, dont really do theory crafting so the above makes sense now, cheers again :)
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