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Zathra Narazi
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
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Posted - 2016.05.23 19:27:53 -
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They've been spamming the forum with keyloggers for so many years I can't even remember when they started. Did someone at CCP just forget that message was there or what? |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6137
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Posted - 2016.05.23 22:08:35 -
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Odd. I've not seen any.
Also, using two-factor authentication is recommended. |
Zathra Narazi
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
24
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Posted - 2016.05.23 22:28:29 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Odd. I've not seen any.
Also, using two-factor authentication is recommended. I'm talking about the message when you click a link that leads outside the forum. |
Paranoid Loyd
9051
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Posted - 2016.05.23 22:46:30 -
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Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that?
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Zathra Narazi
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
24
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Posted - 2016.05.23 23:32:29 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that? The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum. It's certainly not happening anywhere near frequently enough that it can be called spam. That's a terrible analogy. I've been touching that spot on the machine daily since beta. The message makes it sound like there's an ongoing invasion by Lizard Squad or whoever flooding the forum with dozens of keylogger links constantly. |
Paranoid Loyd
9053
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Posted - 2016.05.23 23:47:17 -
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Confirming because you've never heard of it happening to anyone it doesn't happen.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.05.24 01:25:59 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Confirming because you've never heard of it happening to anyone it doesn't happen. Now, now, Loyd, you're just being paranoid.
Let OP not have the warning. Then, when he does get a keylogger, we can all point out that he could have been warned, but he thought the one extra click of a mouse was too much effort.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Blastil
Aideron Robotics
120
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Posted - 2016.05.24 01:29:04 -
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Not to lend credence to a bad idea, but could we get it put into the same page? Its 2016, and event.preventDefault() has been a thing for quite a while now.... |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
9939
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Posted - 2016.05.24 02:35:22 -
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Zathra Narazi wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that? The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum. 2 things:
1. The warning isn't about getting a keylogger from the forum per se. It is a warning that by following a link outside of the forum there is a possibility of being infected.
2. It is a CYA ("Cover Your Ass") legal message from and for CCP. By stating there is a risk in following a random URL outside of the forum and you choosing to ignore it (by selecting "YES" and going to said link), CCP absolves itself of any responsibility on what is on the other end.
Basically, there is no good reason to remove it. It does what it is supposed to; warn you of a potential risk.
And yes... there is a risk. There is always a risk. If memory serves me right, there was a keylogger that infected computers that visited the Superbowl website some years back. They keylogger was specific for World of Warcraft and it resulted in quite a few accounts being compromised.
How did you Veterans start?
"Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
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Zathra Narazi
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
27
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Posted - 2016.05.24 05:18:53 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:1. The warning isn't about getting a keylogger from the forum per se. It is a warning that by following a link outside of the forum there is a possibility of being infected. I clearly speak English.
ShahFluffers wrote:2. It is a CYA ("Cover Your Ass") legal message from and for CCP. By stating there is a risk in following a random URL outside of the forum and you choosing to ignore it (by selecting "YES" and going to said link), CCP absolves itself of any responsibility on what is on the other end. I get that. I'm saying it could be better worded.
ShahFluffers wrote:Basically, there is no good reason to remove it. It does what it is supposed to; warn you of a potential risk. The word "remove" doesn't appear in any of my posts. That was you guys. |
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.24 05:52:05 -
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Zathra Narazi wrote:PS: And it's funny that you'd use warning labels as an example. The US has such a broken legal system that our warning labels are notoriously massive overkill because everyone is terrified of frivolous lawsuits.
Well... there was this time when someone ironed one of those iron-on stickers on his t-shirt...
...while wearing it.
But yeah that message *is* annoying.
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.05.24 06:11:05 -
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Zathra Narazi wrote:PS: And it's funny that you'd use warning labels as an example. The US has such a broken legal system that our warning labels are notoriously massive overkill because everyone is terrified of frivolous lawsuits. Remember, for every warning label you find on a product, there's an idiot out there that did exactly what the label warns you not to do, and successfully sued over it.
The sad part isn't the broken legal system. The sad part is that the legal system rewards stupidity. Every day we get one step closer to "Idiocracy" becoming reality.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
32
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Posted - 2016.05.24 06:32:23 -
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Zathra Narazi wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that? The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum. It's certainly not happening anywhere near frequently enough that it can be called spam. That's a terrible analogy. I've been touching that spot on the machine daily since beta without so much as a paper cut. The message makes it sound like there's an ongoing invasion by Lizard Squad or whoever flooding the forum with dozens of keylogger links constantly. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having a warning, but it at least shouldn't be an absurdly hyperbolic one. PS: And it's funny that you'd use warning labels as an example. The US has such a broken legal system that our warning labels are notoriously massive overkill because everyone is terrified of frivolous lawsuits.
"Caution: Contents may be hot!" on the side of mc donalds( everyone does it now) coffee cups cause some lady sued mc donalds when she spilled hot coffee in her lap out of one of the cups. If you order a coffee you would assume its hot, no?
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Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
228
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Posted - 2016.05.24 08:52:23 -
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The cake is a lie.
It is traditional to tell you the concern whose venue you are leaving is not vouching for the place you're going.
If you have a problem with that, I'd say you need therapy. Posting the details of your neurosis here won't help you.
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron
1774
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Posted - 2016.05.24 09:20:55 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Confirming because you've never heard of it happening to anyone it doesn't happen. do you always wear your space suit with closed helmet (you know: anything can happen and you'll find yourself in open space!)?
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12115
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Posted - 2016.05.24 18:07:15 -
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AUDREY BITONI
2010
Nevar forget...
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6141
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Posted - 2016.05.24 18:16:16 -
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Zathra Narazi wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Odd. I've not seen any.
Also, using two-factor authentication is recommended. I'm talking about the message when you click a link that leads outside the forum. Oh.
I don't even pay attention to those.
Also, have you noticed how some sites are excluded? |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12115
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Posted - 2016.05.24 18:43:52 -
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It was terrible, really. Naked ladies are all good and well, but they just got in the way of serious EVEing way too much
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Hawke Frost
162
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Posted - 2016.05.24 19:09:37 -
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Zathra Narazi wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that? The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum.
A couple of years ago the forum got spammed like mad with all kinds of shady links and whatnot, that's when they put it in.
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Hawke Frost
162
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Posted - 2016.05.24 19:10:22 -
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Bumblefck wrote:AUDREY BITONI
2010
Nevar forget...
sex leg. |
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Zathra Narazi
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
32
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Posted - 2016.05.24 21:48:08 -
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Hawke Frost wrote:Zathra Narazi wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that? The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum. A couple of years ago the forum got spammed like mad with all kinds of shady links and whatnot, that's when they put it in. It was a lot longer than a couple of years ago. |
Zathra Narazi
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
32
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Posted - 2016.05.24 21:50:32 -
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Sustrai Aditua wrote:The cake is a lie.
It is traditional to tell you the concern whose venue you are leaving is not vouching for the place you're going.
If you have a problem with that, I'd say you need therapy. Posting the details of your neurosis here won't help you. Again, I don't have a problem with the existence of a warning message. I'm saying it could be stated much better than it is. Why do you people reply to threads you didn't even read? I never once said I wanted it removed. You people assumed that. |
Paranoid Loyd
9064
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Posted - 2016.05.24 23:55:31 -
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Obligatory
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Hawke Frost
162
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Posted - 2016.05.25 04:31:53 -
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Zathra Narazi wrote:Hawke Frost wrote:Zathra Narazi wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that? The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum. A couple of years ago the forum got spammed like mad with all kinds of shady links and whatnot, that's when they put it in. It was a lot longer than a couple of years ago. Older players lose track of time, "a couple of years ago" could mean anything. |
Luscius Uta
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
213
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Posted - 2016.05.25 05:56:21 -
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I agree with the OP, the warning message is annoying. Yes, I know it's just a disclaimer but it still manages to be spectacularly silly when it warns you about opening YouTube links or image links that have no theoretical chance of infecting your computer. A company that makes one of the most complicated MMOs on the world could use more intelligence when writing their forum software, don't you agree? There's this issue of messages sometimes being cleared when you click "Post", too.
Workarounds are not bugfixes.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
447
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Posted - 2016.05.25 08:07:41 -
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Zathra Narazi wrote:Sustrai Aditua wrote:The cake is a lie.
It is traditional to tell you the concern whose venue you are leaving is not vouching for the place you're going.
If you have a problem with that, I'd say you need therapy. Posting the details of your neurosis here won't help you. Again, I don't have a problem with the existence of a warning message. I'm saying it could be stated much better than it is. Why do you people reply to threads you didn't even read? I never once said I wanted it removed. You people assumed that.
so come on then, you think you have a better idea then spit it out.
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