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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.24 22:44:09 -
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Iowa Banshee wrote:A password protected mobile depot with a strontium powered bubble.
Is this some kind of joke? It's a relative small ship operation platform, not a space station... |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.25 00:20:10 -
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Why not just make POSs mobile and not require moon anchoring. Once they be come useless thanks to Citadels might as well make them function like your describing. They are cheaper, easier to setup, and why not use them rather than dump the idea of POSs in general along with all that the time and effort spent on developing them.
I would add remove all POS modules, they won't be needed, and add the fitting capacity. Boom. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.25 00:41:21 -
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the point of the new structures is to get rid of pos and the buggy code that runs them
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:03:57 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:the point of the new structures is to get rid of pos and the buggy code that runs them
I agree. I'm saying keep the artwork for the POSs but, recode them. Make them similar to mobile depots in regards to functionality, remove all the modules that won't be needed and just make the thing a big shielded mobile depot that can only serve to temporary shelter fleets or refit ships.
But yes the old code definitely needs to go. I'm only saying, I don't see a point to completely removing them. They can still have a function in the Post-Citadel World. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.26 13:35:44 -
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but the pos shield isi one of the things they want to get rid of its a buggy exploitable mess.
it sounds like you want what has been proposed in the structure discution thread i think the guy who brought it up called it an FOB. much cheaper and easier to kill than a citadel using the same RF method rather than vulnerabilities.
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:19:05 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:but the pos shield isi one of the things they want to get rid of its a buggy exploitable mess.
it sounds like you want what has been proposed in the structure discution thread i think the guy who brought it up called it an FOB. much cheaper and easier to kill than a citadel using the same RF method rather than vulnerabilities.
Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking. I'm cool with that.
I'm just saying there are a lot of POSs out there that will be pointless soon. I'd rather see them be transitioned in to a newer role rather than cut entirely.
Hell, just reuse the artwork and disperse the newer version like they did with carriers and force auxiliary. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
2633
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:23:17 -
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it's better just to cut off the gangrenous limb rather than try and save it
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Iowa Banshee
Fenrir Vangard Wiking Were Wabbits
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Posted - 2016.05.26 17:16:06 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:the point of the new structures is to get rid of pos and the buggy code that runs them
OK - No old code - A Mobile depot that has a strontium powered TETHER (once they fix the bumping issues) that allows an EMPTY ship to be invulnerable for a period of time and access is via password.
The purpose of this would be to replace a soon to be removed function provided by a small tower with SMA: The POS tower costs a few hundred million and has been used as a temporary home for capital industrial & Carriers in Low class wormholes since people moved into WH space. These temporary storage facilities afford pilots the ability to participate in the game rather than being stuck in a single specialized ship - it gives them the opportunity to run around and do their normal day to day game-play.
Titan pilots know all about being stuck in a single ship but now they have been given a way of exiting their space prisons to allow participation in the game - at a cost that reflects the prestige and wealth of their owners.
The opposite applies to Wormhole locked pilots - They are going to have their ships turned into prisons.
The cost of parole - 7 BILLION - This amount is way out of proportion when compared to something in use now that costs a few hundred million. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.27 00:27:13 -
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Iowa Banshee wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:the point of the new structures is to get rid of pos and the buggy code that runs them OK - No old code - A Mobile depot that has a strontium powered TETHER (once they fix the bumping issues) that allows an EMPTY ship to be invulnerable for a period of time and access is via password. The purpose of this would be to replace a soon to be removed function provided by a small tower with SMA: The POS tower costs a few hundred million and has been used as a temporary home for capital industrial & Carriers in Low class wormholes since people moved into WH space. These temporary storage facilities afford pilots the ability to participate in the game rather than being stuck in a single specialized ship - it gives them the opportunity to run around and do their normal day to day game-play. Titan pilots know all about being stuck in a single ship but now they have been given a way of exiting their space prisons to allow participation in the game - at a cost that reflects the prestige and wealth of their owners. The opposite applies to Wormhole locked pilots - They are going to have their ships turned into prisons. The cost of parole - 7 BILLION - This amount is way out of proportion when compared to something in use now that costs a few hundred million.
Well said. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.27 00:32:24 -
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Iowa Banshee wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:the point of the new structures is to get rid of pos and the buggy code that runs them OK - No old code - A Mobile depot that has a strontium powered TETHER (once they fix the bumping issues) that allows an EMPTY ship to be invulnerable for a period of time and access is via password. The purpose of this would be to replace a soon to be removed function provided by a small tower with SMA: The POS tower costs a few hundred million and has been used as a temporary home for capital industrial & Carriers in Low class wormholes since people moved into WH space. These temporary storage facilities afford pilots the ability to participate in the game rather than being stuck in a single specialized ship - it gives them the opportunity to run around and do their normal day to day game-play. Titan pilots know all about being stuck in a single ship but now they have been given a way of exiting their space prisons to allow participation in the game - at a cost that reflects the prestige and wealth of their owners. The opposite applies to Wormhole locked pilots - They are going to have their ships turned into prisons. The cost of parole - 7 BILLION - This amount is way out of proportion when compared to something in use now that costs a few hundred million.
so this mod should cost about 4-5b to keep the cost similar to the XL and titan or 20B to keep it similar to super and xl
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2651
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Posted - 2016.05.27 00:38:01 -
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wait to get one of these into a low class WH you are going to need a large structure (most likely an indi array) so you will already have something to dock in....
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Iowa Banshee
Fenrir Vangard Wiking Were Wabbits
88
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Posted - 2016.05.27 18:32:31 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Iowa Banshee wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:the point of the new structures is to get rid of pos and the buggy code that runs them OK - No old code - A Mobile depot that has a strontium powered TETHER (once they fix the bumping issues) that allows an EMPTY ship to be invulnerable for a period of time and access is via password. The purpose of this would be to replace a soon to be removed function provided by a small tower with SMA: The POS tower costs a few hundred million and has been used as a temporary home for capital industrial & Carriers in Low class wormholes since people moved into WH space. These temporary storage facilities afford pilots the ability to participate in the game rather than being stuck in a single specialized ship - it gives them the opportunity to run around and do their normal day to day game-play. Titan pilots know all about being stuck in a single ship but now they have been given a way of exiting their space prisons to allow participation in the game - at a cost that reflects the prestige and wealth of their owners. The opposite applies to Wormhole locked pilots - They are going to have their ships turned into prisons. The cost of parole - 7 BILLION - This amount is way out of proportion when compared to something in use now that costs a few hundred million. so this mod should cost about 4-5b to keep the cost similar to the XL and titan or 20B to keep it similar to super and xl again the other structures are not going to cost 7b for a large they will be much cheaper
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Iowa Banshee
Fenrir Vangard Wiking Were Wabbits
88
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Posted - 2016.05.27 18:41:12 -
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Maybe in place of CCP creating a brand new deploy-able they could add something to the Citadel itself. If they could have a number of bays on the outside of the Citadel and have ships attach to these bays then the pilots could leave a ship unmanned and enter the Citadel.
I KNOW - lets could call it MOORING a ship
... I am so surprised no-one thought of this before, It's a simple and elegant way to replace the existing storage mechanic. |
darkneko
Black Cat mining Inc.
9
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Posted - 2016.05.27 19:19:50 -
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While there are no plans for a structure like this the rorqual is getting a bubble. Granted I don't know how they plan on working it.
And we should see small structures with ship storage and tethering but no docking and more mobile soon but again no one knows all the details so something may already be in the works that solves the problem.
allowing pos to be put anywhere would be a great middle point though, if they could do it easily. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
2654
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Posted - 2016.05.28 03:20:07 -
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Iowa Banshee wrote:Maybe in place of CCP creating a brand new deploy-able they could add something to the Citadel itself. If they could have a number of bays on the outside of the Citadel and have ships attach to these bays then the pilots could leave a ship unmanned and enter the Citadel.
I KNOW - lets could call it MOORING a ship
... I am so surprised no-one thought of this before, It's a simple and elegant way to replace the existing storage mechanic.
WH corps whined that's why we don't have it
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2654
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Posted - 2016.05.28 03:21:10 -
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darkneko wrote:While there are no plans for a structure like this the rorqual is getting a bubble. Granted I don't know how they plan on working it.
And we should see small structures with ship storage and tethering but no docking and more mobile soon but again no one knows all the details so something may already be in the works that solves the problem.
allowing pos to be put anywhere would be a great middle point though, if they could do it easily.
... the rorq is not getting a bubble
it is going to turn all industrial ships on grid (and i'm assuming in fleet or this will get abused) invulnerable and unable to do anything
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Cyrus Tybalt
Blap n Pew
11
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Posted - 2016.05.29 12:00:00 -
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I'd settle for a Mobile Depot that you can "launch for fleet" or "launch for corp". That would make me happy. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
107
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Posted - 2016.05.29 15:54:12 -
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Cyrus Tybalt wrote:I'd settle for a Mobile Depot that you can "launch for fleet" or "launch for corp". That would make me happy.
This ^ would be good. Or give depots an option for it. |
Iowa Banshee
Fenrir Vangard Wiking Were Wabbits
89
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Posted - 2016.05.31 14:37:05 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Iowa Banshee wrote:Maybe in place of CCP creating a brand new deploy-able they could add something to the Citadel itself. If they could have a number of bays on the outside of the Citadel and have ships attach to these bays then the pilots could leave a ship unmanned and enter the Citadel.
I KNOW - lets could call it MOORING a ship
... I am so surprised no-one thought of this before, It's a simple and elegant way to replace the existing storage mechanic. WH corps whined that's why we don't have it
No whining from wh corps about mooring - CCP just opted for the tether.
Presumably because showing a docked ship on a citadel model was moor (sic) difficult than coding the tether beam. Which is surprising because they add things to nearly every other model in the game - especially strategic cruisers which I don't think use any legacy code - so the ability to add items to a model is already there.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2728
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Posted - 2016.06.01 06:51:34 -
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Iowa Banshee wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Iowa Banshee wrote:Maybe in place of CCP creating a brand new deploy-able they could add something to the Citadel itself. If they could have a number of bays on the outside of the Citadel and have ships attach to these bays then the pilots could leave a ship unmanned and enter the Citadel.
I KNOW - lets could call it MOORING a ship
... I am so surprised no-one thought of this before, It's a simple and elegant way to replace the existing storage mechanic. WH corps whined that's why we don't have it No whining from wh corps about mooring - CCP just opted for the tether.
there was a lot of whining on how it would let everyone see what capitals you had so they moved it so capitals could dock rather than moor. they then added tethering to replace the bubble
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Scuzzy Logic
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2016.06.01 13:13:40 -
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All I want for XMas is a mobile Depot with a huge ore bay so I can Hulk by myself. |
Amonios Zula
Aeon Ascendant
70
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Posted - 2016.06.01 13:19:57 -
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Cyrus Tybalt wrote:I'd settle for a Mobile Depot that you can "launch for fleet" or "launch for corp". That would make me happy. One or both of those options would be a lovely addition. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2016.06.02 11:31:42 -
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Amonios Zula wrote:Cyrus Tybalt wrote:I'd settle for a Mobile Depot that you can "launch for fleet" or "launch for corp". That would make me happy. One or both of those options would be a lovely addition.
Thirded! |
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