Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Matt Faithbringer
Tax Services
31
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 14:25:34 -
[1] - Quote
There is one main argument against it, that some people would just log in semi-daily before&after downtime and pick 20k SP during 20 minutes. Ok, some people would probably do that. Other people (like me) are at work and/or sleeping.
What would be positives? I plan on doing them in the morning, before going to work. Ok, why is that a problem? Because I have to alarm clock on the weekends not to destroy my schedule for monday. In general, switching between evening ratting to morning ratting and vice versa is pain in current system. You either need to miss one day or have ability to log during work or whatever you do during your day.
Does the positives outweighs the negatives? imho yes.
discuss. |
Raging Bull Unchained
Einheit X-6
756
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 14:29:46 -
[2] - Quote
I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.
And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). |
Matt Faithbringer
Tax Services
31
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 14:37:45 -
[3] - Quote
Raging Bull Unchained wrote:I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.
And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted).
I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1545
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 14:40:52 -
[4] - Quote
Matt Faithbringer wrote:Raging Bull Unchained wrote:I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.
And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me
So you miss a day, who cares?
My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things!
My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
|
Raging Bull Unchained
Einheit X-6
756
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 14:46:58 -
[5] - Quote
Ah ok. Yeah, i missed that point. Do them when you came back from work? That-¦s how i do it. Though i might have that "problem" when i once do them late and want to go to bad early. I-¦d just "miss" out then.
Poor ccp. They do the 22h timer so it doens-¦t get later and later and still it-¦s not right :P |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
325
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 15:19:58 -
[6] - Quote
Yay! First kill-a-rat drama!
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
|
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2857
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 15:30:41 -
[7] - Quote
Gimme Sake wrote:Yay! First kill-a-rat drama!
It was fully expected. Hell I had that subject in mind when thinking of what could be the first one. |
KaarBaak
322
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 15:31:15 -
[8] - Quote
Matt Faithbringer wrote:Raging Bull Unchained wrote:I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.
And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday? |
Matt Faithbringer
Tax Services
31
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 15:36:43 -
[9] - Quote
KaarBaak wrote:Matt Faithbringer wrote:Raging Bull Unchained wrote:I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.
And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday?
goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2858
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 15:40:32 -
[10] - Quote
Matt Faithbringer wrote:KaarBaak wrote:Matt Faithbringer wrote:Raging Bull Unchained wrote:I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.
And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday? goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily
Stop feeling forced to do something 100% optional. |
|
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14136
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 15:40:32 -
[11] - Quote
Matt Faithbringer wrote:There is one main argument against it, that some people would just log in semi-daily before&after downtime and pick 20k SP during 20 minutes. Ok, some people would probably do that. Other people (like me) are at work and/or sleeping.
What would be positives? I plan on doing them in the morning, before going to work. Ok, why is that a problem? Because I have to alarm clock on the weekends not to destroy my schedule for monday. In general, switching between evening ratting to morning ratting and vice versa is pain in current system. You either need to miss one day or have ability to log during work or whatever you do during your day.
Does the positives outweighs the negatives? imho yes.
discuss.
CCP should never go about making changes because one or two players have personal scheduling conflicts. If they did , down time would be 10 hours per day 4 days per week because that's when I'm at work and EVE shouldn't even be up while I'm at work lol. |
KaarBaak
325
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 15:44:08 -
[12] - Quote
Matt Faithbringer wrote:KaarBaak wrote:Matt Faithbringer wrote:Raging Bull Unchained wrote:I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.
And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday? goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily I think I found your problem. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
291
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 16:35:33 -
[13] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:Matt Faithbringer wrote:KaarBaak wrote:Matt Faithbringer wrote:Raging Bull Unchained wrote:I myself do them once a day and im not enviously evil-eyeing those who can claim it every 22h. People with more sparetime always get an advantage in games.
And if your realy alarmclock for 10k sp because of 2 hours / day - meh. You should probably play less in general (or in other words: you are addicted). I probably wasn't clear, I'm planning on keeping them once a day, what I meant that during work day I do them before work at 0500 eve time, on weekend days I get up at like 0900 eve time. so on monday I cannot do them again at 0500. that's what's bothering me Skip Sunday? goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily Stop feeling forced to do something 100% optional.
Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout.
|
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
9946
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 16:39:49 -
[14] - Quote
This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE.
How did you Veterans start?
"Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
|
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12122
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 16:57:03 -
[15] - Quote
Let me guess, you probably live in Australia, right?
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
|
KaarBaak
329
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 17:20:26 -
[16] - Quote
Joia Crenca wrote:[quote=Frostys Virpio]
Skillpoints are pretty valuable to many EVE players. The distribution of them, if they're to have them at all, should be adjusted to be weekly or less. This feature, with the daily login requirement, may give some good statistics for CCP Hilmar in the very short term, but will lead to more EVE player burnout.
I could tell you how to make it weekly: Login and kill an NPC pirate once per week.
Your complaint seems akin to: "I can't accumulate ore every day unless I login every day." "I can't kill other players every day unless I login every day."
It's simply another game mechanic that you can participate in or not. You'll be rewarded accordingly. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
2507
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 18:15:14 -
[17] - Quote
Oh look, we got the first "daily chore" victim.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
|
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
74
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 18:47:41 -
[18] - Quote
ShahFluffers wrote:This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE.
Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll.
"goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily"
To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
9949
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 19:04:56 -
[19] - Quote
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too.
How did you Veterans start?
"Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
|
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
55052
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 19:11:04 -
[20] - Quote
I agree with the OP.
The timer should renew with server reset at Down Time.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
|
|
Matt Faithbringer
Tax Services
35
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 19:15:01 -
[21] - Quote
Bumblefck wrote:Let me guess, you probably live in Australia, right?
EU |
Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
231
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 19:16:57 -
[22] - Quote
Look. Only old ladies in pink sweaters and adolescents fresh from Pandaland say "troll."
This is the EVE Online Forum. Please. Show some dignity and some sense.
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
|
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3853
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 19:17:14 -
[23] - Quote
Getting up at 5 for five days, then 9 for two days puts your body into a permanent state of jet lag. Its bad for you. Get up at the same time every day and you will feel better, irrelevant of Eve. (And then this issue goes away as well.)
Know a Frozen fan? Check this out
Frozen fanfiction
|
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2863
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 19:31:44 -
[24] - Quote
ShahFluffers wrote:Shayla Etherodyne wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too.
We all know a few idiots... |
Moac Tor
Cyber Core Stain Confederation
540
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 19:37:08 -
[25] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Shayla Etherodyne wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too. We all know a few idiots... There are actually going to be loads of people who think this way, and then when they find they are missing out they are going to get annoyed and lose interest in the game. This has been stated countless times in the feedback thread and so I am not at all surprised that this type of thread has already popped up. They should make it as easy as possible to claim the SP.
For myself I am not bothered as I haven't even logged in yet as I refuse to login when I otherwise wouldn't simply to shoot a rat. But I don't want to see players getting annoyed and quitting the game as that is bad for everyone, even when it is people who you claim to be 'idiots', they are still producing content and making for a richer game world.
Modulated ECM Effects
An Alternative to Skill Trading
|
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
74
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 20:06:54 -
[26] - Quote
Moac Tor wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:Shayla Etherodyne wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:This thread clearly illustrates why grinding for SP in any form for any amount (no matter how minuscule) is a bad idea in EVE. Or maybe it show that the OP is a troll. "goes against the idea of forcing me to log in daily" To me that phrase is a big neon sign saying troll Maybe. But I have also met players who actually think this way too. We all know a few idiots... There are actually going to be loads of people who think this way, and then when they find they are missing out they are going to get annoyed and lose interest in the game. This has been stated countless times in the feedback thread and so I am not at all surprised that this type of thread has already popped up. They should make it as easy as possible to claim the SP. For myself I am not bothered as I haven't even logged in yet as I refuse to login when I otherwise wouldn't simply to shoot a rat. But I don't want to see players getting annoyed and quitting the game as that is bad for everyone, even when it is people who you claim to be 'idiots', they are still producing content and making for a richer game world.
People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless. |
Matt Faithbringer
Tax Services
35
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 21:35:12 -
[27] - Quote
Shayla Etherodyne wrote: People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless.
I was ganked. I've lost my bling ship to a mission. And I'm not quiting over this. But it still is annoying. |
KaarBaak
332
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 22:00:48 -
[28] - Quote
Matt Faithbringer wrote:Shayla Etherodyne wrote: People quitting for that will quit for countless other reasons: "i was ganked." "i have lost my bling ship to a mission." and so on. The wouldn't stay long regardless.
I was ganked. I've lost my bling ship to a mission. And I'm not quiting over this. But it still is annoying. No it's not. It's just something. And you let it annoy you.
You can continue to play the same way you've always played. Occasionally you'll accidentally get an SP bump. But otherwise it will not affect you whatsoever, if you don't let it.
If they introduced a mechanic that removed 10,000 SP each day that you didn't login...THAT would be annoying.
Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
11109
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 22:22:55 -
[29] - Quote
24 hours is too much, change it to 16.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
Planetary Interaction 2.1
|
Rachel Bloodbucket
The Dutch United
0
|
Posted - 2016.05.25 23:03:11 -
[30] - Quote
Do them in the evening to get rid of your problem. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |