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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:34:03 -
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So the idea is basically just as the title indicates, I'm proposing an addition subscription plan that would allow players to add up to 5 toons to one subscription. Of course the individual requesting that service would end up paying more, and it's capped at 5 toons, so at 6 you'd be require to activate a new subscription.
Who would this help? Mainly industrialists, people who run lots of PI, maybe anyone that does a lot of marketing or manufacturing. People with multidisciplinary toons who don't tend to multibox. Basically, it's for those who may only have need or want for 4-5 toons, but are not interested in that second account.
You can still only use one character at a time. I'm NOT suggesting multiboxing from the same subscription. That's the purpose of multiple subscriptions.
As I said earlier, players would get billed appropriately. If a sub cost let's say 15 USD a month then to add the 4th toon make it 20. Add a 5th toon make it 25 USD.
It would require a modification to the character selection screen. To view all your toons you'd need to scroll sideways or up down.
I'm guessing many of you won't use such a feature, but I'd bet some of us would. |
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.26 08:06:25 -
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Sure, so long as every toon past the first costs even more.
1 character- $15 2 character - $35 3 character - $55 4 character - $75 5 character- $95
Alts are why we can't have nice things. It should be discouraged and punished as often as possible.
Plus, this would just get farmed for skill extractors and such. No need to make that boneheaded idea even worse. |
Crashys
Zonk Squad Spartan Republic
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Posted - 2016.05.26 09:10:08 -
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Mike Voidstar wrote:Sure, so long as every toon past the first costs even more.
1 character- $15 2 character - $35 3 character - $55 4 character - $75 5 character- $95
Alts are why we can't have nice things. It should be discouraged and punished as often as possible.
Plus, this would just get farmed for skill extractors and such. No need to make that boneheaded idea even worse.
So you plan is to RIP eve?? Is this what you propose?
For every miner/ratter multiboxer there are tons of players that use multiple chars for several purposes in the game. Supers is a good example, so if you have one or more supers you will be 'punished' for that... RIGHT... That would work nicely for EVE.
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 11:01:59 -
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-I'd be perfectly happy with even just adding 4 toons total to on a subscription, I just assumed make it up to five because I know some people might use it. People will be farming toons for skill extractors anyway. That sh!t has to be expensive right? Then you'll spend more money with my idea. While my proposal would affect skill farm potentially, if someone had enough money to farm like that they will do it any how, how ever they can. Cost isn't a concern.
-The other example with capital alts is a good too! |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2016.05.26 12:05:40 -
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-1 CCP needs to find a way to curtail the use of alts in this game not make it easier to have them. After all why have friends in an MMO when you can simply have more alts. |
Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2016.05.26 12:14:51 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:So the idea is basically just as the title indicates, I'm proposing an addition subscription plan that would allow players to add up to 5 toons to one subscription. Of course the individual requesting that service would end up paying more, and it's capped at 5 toons, so at 6 you'd be require to activate a new subscription.
Who would this help? Mainly industrialists, people who run lots of PI, maybe anyone that does a lot of marketing or manufacturing. People with multidisciplinary toons who don't tend to multibox. Basically, it's for those who may only have need or want for 4-5 toons, but are not interested in that second account.
You can still only use one character at a time. I'm NOT suggesting multiboxing from the same subscription. That's the purpose of multiple subscriptions.
As I said earlier, players would get billed appropriately. If a sub cost let's say 15 USD a month then to add the 4th toon make it 20. Add a 5th toon make it 25 USD.
It would require a modification to the character selection screen. To view all your toons you'd need to scroll sideways or up down.
I'm guessing many of you won't use such a feature, but I'd bet some of us would. Just get another account. Not only does it cost the same as getting 3 additional character slots with your idea, but you even get the ability to train a second character without the additional cost of a MCT. Just because you have multiple accounts doesn't force you to multibox.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.26 13:32:46 -
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... why not just have 6 acc if anything this makes it easier to do indi because you don't have to keep logging in and out to set things up you just need to log in to them all at once
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:26:52 -
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Donnachadh wrote:-1 CCP needs to find a way to curtail the use of alts in this game not make it easier to have them. After all why have friends in an MMO when you can simply have more alts.
I'm not really sure that what you're getting at is relevant to this. It's like comparing apples to oranges. That's two very different things. You can play with friends, you cant play with alts from the same sub. If having more alts means you'd stop playing with friends, sounds like you'd have a jaded idea of friendships. If that's the case fine, go play with yourself.. Giggles.. |
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:39:44 -
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Crashys wrote:Mike Voidstar wrote:Sure, so long as every toon past the first costs even more.
1 character- $15 2 character - $35 3 character - $55 4 character - $75 5 character- $95
Alts are why we can't have nice things. It should be discouraged and punished as often as possible.
Plus, this would just get farmed for skill extractors and such. No need to make that boneheaded idea even worse. So you plan is to RIP eve?? Is this what you propose? For every miner/ratter multiboxer there are tons of players that use multiple chars for several purposes in the game. Supers is a good example, so if you have one or more supers you will be 'punished' for that... RIGHT... That would work nicely for EVE. :)
Removing alts from the game would fix far more than it would break. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:40:19 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:... why not just have 6 acc if anything this makes it easier to do indi because you don't have to keep logging in and out to set things up you just need to log in to them all at once
I definitely don't want to pay for six accounts. Mind you that's just my complaint. Some people are willing to and I'm sure CCP wouldn't mind the money but with this method they would still get paid and no one gets overcharged for a sub they don't want. |
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:41:45 -
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Another thing is sometimes people don't have time to run multiple characters at once or perhaps their computers don't have the capacity for it. This method would help those individuals a lot too. I'm sure there are many that would disagree but I honestly see more good coming from this than harm. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:51:27 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Another thing is sometimes people don't have time to run multiple characters at once or perhaps their computers don't have the capacity for it. This method would help those individuals a lot too. I'm sure there are many that would disagree but I honestly see more good coming from this than harm.
so either your pc is powerfull enough that you can log them all in at once or its not and you have to log in and out how does having more on the same account help over just having more accounts?
unless you want to use this to train them then stop paying like you do with the other two on your acc
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:16:46 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Another thing is sometimes people don't have time to run multiple characters at once or perhaps their computers don't have the capacity for it. This method would help those individuals a lot too. I'm sure there are many that would disagree but I honestly see more good coming from this than harm. so either your pc is powerfull enough that you can log them all in at once or its not and you have to log in and out how does having more on the same account help over just having more accounts? unless you want to use this to train them then stop paying like you do with the other two on your acc
That could certainly be an option, but it doesn't have to. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:24:57 -
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if that is not an option you are just asking to spend more $ if it is you are asking ccp to give up $
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:40:19 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:if that is not an option you are just asking to spend more $ if it is you are asking ccp to give up $
CCP would still be making money off this. Maybe those people that don't want to pay for twice the bill would be willing to pay the extra $5 for that single account to get the added toon. That would be my case.
Sounds like that isn't yours, but that doesn't mean everyone's just like you.
Tell you what I'll compromise. Limit a subscription to 3 toons at 15 USD and add the 4th for an extra 5 USD. We'll limit it to 4 toons, not 5 like I suggested previously. That way the urge to bump up to 2 subscriptions is made higher. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.26 16:43:41 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:if that is not an option you are just asking to spend more $ if it is you are asking ccp to give up $ CCP would still be making money off this. Maybe those people that don't want to pay for twice the bill would be willing to pay the extra $5 for that single account to get the added toon. That would be my case. Sounds like that isn't yours, but that doesn't mean everyone's just like you. Tell you what I'll compromise. Limit a subscription to 3 toons at 15 USD and add the 4th for an extra 5 USD. We'll limit it to 4 toons, not 5 like I suggested previously. That way the urge to bump up to 2 subscriptions is made higher.
How about we make an account able to hold 3 character and if you want more, you get more accounts? Why is there a need to have extra options? Oh wait, because it suit YOU to have that exception. Don't try to get the game changed because of your own small special snowflake situation and deal with what is available. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2514
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Posted - 2016.05.26 17:15:42 -
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Donnachadh wrote:CCP needs to find a way to curtail the use of alts in this game not make it easier to have them. After all why have friends in an MMO when you can simply have more alts. If I would rely on friends/corporation/alliance members only to get things done, nothing would get done. Other people can be beneficial at times, are even irreplaceable in many situations but in many circumstances, they are nothing but useless hindrances and obstacles that hold you back instead of helping you to advance.
If EVE never had allowed alternative characters on the same player (which is technologically impossible to implement, but just for the sake of argument), EVE would certainly be a very different game. But since this is not the case, relying on other people is like flipping a coin with active displays as faces: whatever side it lands on, it's not the face you currently need and you just wasted your time relying on that person.
When it comes to the thread's suggestion: I do not see the benefit of it at all. You get more characters out of 2 accounts and pay less money for them with a 6 months subscription than you would with the suggestion's pricing scheme. You also do not have to relog as often as you can use 2 characters simultaneously for less money than you would pay under the suggested pricing scheme. The very only instance this suggestion makes sense payment-wise is with having exactly 4 characters, but you would still only be able to play with 1 char at a time. Hence, unless CCP would completely screw over base pricing for accounts, this suggestion makes no sense at all compared to 2 or 3 accounts.
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2016.05.26 17:16:25 -
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OMG this thread is funny. OP ask for an option to allow one to two more character slots on an account for extra money.
People complain that we need less alts and others make decent arguments about just getting another account.
CCP needs to fix the current system before they go and make option money grabs.
A player should be able to dock and/or safe log to the character select screen. Why the duck is it we have to quit the game to log into a different character? Because the manhours to CCP are not worth what they consider a small irritation.
I love EVE but when you compare basic player functions to other MMOs, they are lacking. Blizzard's WoW is probably the best comparison. The games are nearly the same age - WoW allows logging to character select screen. They have had the extra level of log in security for years (I think 2010 was when they added it), they have a mobile app. A launcher that supports updating in the background as well as other games the produce. And those are all things they have had for years. 2, 3, 4 years longer than CCP and as far as I know the development team is nearly same sizes.
We have more important things than more character slots is all I am saying.
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.27 06:37:07 -
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Hhhh sigh.
Well I expected. Some people only view this as a waste because they have no need of it and therefore think there's no point. That's incorrect if a fair amount of people may use such options but we'll never know.
Then there are the people consider this kind of suggestions a moral abomination and say hell no because they think it will be the death of EvE. Its already a problem, you should be ashamed, the White Walkers will come, blah, blah, blah. Then they belittle you or start using derogatory commentary, and still don't look at this from a constructive stand point.
Again,
(A) would it adversely affect the game. (B) would enough people use it to justify its implementation. (C) would CCP be profitable in the wake of it implementation.
That's all we need to be concern with. No one gives 2 f++cks about whether you would use it, or what you think of the people that would. The three simple questions above are all I'm concern with and I don't need the rest of the fluffy commentary on your answers.
And if you can't look at things objectively then you probably don't need to be in this thread.
So let's try this. Copy and paste those question and give a 1-2 sentence explanation for each answer. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.27 06:39:02 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote: We have more important things than more character slots is all I am saying.
Is that an understatement.. |
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.27 06:52:31 -
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To everyone else who says just get two accounts already have 2 accounts! Yay I followed your advice 7 years ago! But I don't want to anymore! And that doesn't pertain to anyone else but me? I DONT KNOW! Probably, I'm sure I'm not the only one that would rather only pay for what they need and would realistically use rather than spend money and waste it. But I got it, that's supposed to make the game more enticing and make you actually use it. I'm not finding that to always be the case. Either way I still would like to have the option. |
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.27 07:58:29 -
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If it's not more character online at one time, and you still gotta pay a plex to train them I see no harm, but that's not how I read the OP.
Anything that involves the use and abuse of alts in any way should be crushed. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.05.27 08:35:36 -
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Donnachadh wrote:-1 CCP needs to find a way to curtail the use of alts in this game not make it easier to have them. After all why have friends in an MMO when you can simply have more alts.
never happen not when ccp makes so much money from alts
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Sella Lesbon
Livonian Bearslayers The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2016.05.27 09:14:33 -
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I hate alt but i have to be honest - i use one. But yeah - there are too many alts out there. I have this one guy who goes into mining op with 12 alts. definitely multi boxing. I always wondered how he manages to warp them all at the same time. :P
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.27 09:23:44 -
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Sella Lesbon wrote: I always wondered how he manages to warp them all at the same time. :P
i'm not sure if serious but ummm fleet warp?
but i agree i wish eve was not built around alts but its just to late now to remove them. the in game economy is built around them and so is ccps business model
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Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
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Posted - 2016.05.27 09:29:10 -
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Sella Lesbon wrote:I hate alt but i have to be honest - i use one. But yeah - there are too many alts out there. I have this one guy who goes into mining op with 12 alts. definitely multi boxing. I always wondered how he manages to warp them all at the same time. :P
There are ways. There are a few programs that will synch keypress to multiple clients. It's funny when it's miners. Less so when it's bombers. |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.05.27 09:29:50 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:it would help if in order to log more than one acc on at a time they all had to be in a player corp (no necessarily the same one) at least then the **** who mines the ice field in 15min using 30 acc would be war decable
quite a solid idea actually but then 30 1man corps, nobody will waste time/isk wardeccing all of that
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.05.27 09:31:47 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:it would help if in order to log more than one acc on at a time they all had to be in a player corp (no necessarily the same one) at least then the **** who mines the ice field in 15min using 30 acc would be war decable quite a solid idea actually but then 30 1man corps, nobody will waste time/isk wardeccing all of that
don't need to just dec the freighter.....
also would need to add a delay to dropping corp after decs though
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
106
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Posted - 2016.05.27 10:05:25 -
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Mike Voidstar wrote:If it's not more character online at one time, and you still gotta pay a plex to train them I see no harm, but that's not how I read the OP.
Anything that involves the use and abuse of alts in any way should be crushed.
One account, one active toon at a time. I'm just saying give the option to pay extra and add toons to an account. |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
770
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Posted - 2016.05.27 10:07:37 -
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Having multiple alts shouldn't be cheaper though, as it only encourages people to have alts even more, thus giving people an easier advandage. Like some of us young students don't have as much money as the older EVE players who have full time jobs. |
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