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Khelar Udan
Wormbro
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Posted - 2016.05.26 14:55:55 -
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So the short rundown is I've made and tested a rattlesnake fit for c5 and c4 sites that costs about 1 billion for each ship. The sites make you 250-270 mil per site with salvage and you can run two of them in an hour so with both of my capable alts I'm looking at about 500 million an hour. I have another two alts that are basically useless but they will site on the other wormholes in system to warn of hostiles. The issue is I only have about 4 bil liquid and I'm not willing to spend half my total worth on two ships. So to help get started I'm asking for 1 billion ISK for one month with 20 percent interest.
If interested please mail me in game.
Thanks
PS: I'm willing to work with the interest rate a little bit of for some reason it is too low for you. |
Magmain
Galactic Imperium
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:02:56 -
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Why not spend 25% of your total liquid isk and buy a single ship. If you really make 250m per site it shouldn't take you more than 2-4 hours to make enough for ship number two? |
Khelar Udan
Wormbro
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:08:52 -
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Magmain wrote:Why not spend 25% of your total liquid isk and buy a single ship. If you really make 250m per site it shouldn't take you more than 2-4 hours to make enough for ship number two?
I guess I should have clarified. These are remote repping ships. Either you run two of them or you don't run at all. |
Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc. Sin City Coalition
432
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:38:02 -
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Problem is you are in effect saying, I am unwilling to risk my own isk so I want to risk your isk instead.
This will not be filled
buy 1 plex, sell 1 plex, buy 2 ships, save 20% interest, use money from sites to buy new plex to pay for account for one month to claw back some RL money. |
Reileen Kawahara
Observatory Corporation
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:40:27 -
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Khelar Udan wrote:I'm not willing to spend half my total worth on two ships. So to help get started I'm asking for 1 billion ISK for one month with 20 percent interest.
Not to sound a killjoy but if you are not prepared to spend 2B which as you say you will recoup in 2 hours, why should someone else take the risk?
If you have collateral then that's a different story. |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
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Posted - 2016.05.26 16:09:39 -
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Khelar Udan wrote:
PS: I'm willing to work with the interest rate a little bit of for some reason it is too low for you.
The problem isnt the interest rate, the problem is that this sounds like a scam and even if it were a genuine offer, you come off sounding like a douchebag.
You have 4 billion isk, which means you can afford to lose your rattlesnakes and replace them. And yet you want us to take the risk if you f*ck up and lose both rattlesnakes?
And what if you did lose both ships after running only 1 site? Are you going to come back here saying "Lol i lost both rattlesnakes, need another 2 bill cause i still dont want to risk using my own money"? |
Cista2
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.05.26 16:32:54 -
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Khelar Udan wrote:... have about 4 bil liquid and I'm not willing to spend half my total worth on two ships. Because you need that money for.... [tries to come up with any sensible reason] .. you use them for daily baths, Scrooge McDuck style?
My channel: "Signatures"
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Khelar Udan
Wormbro
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Posted - 2016.05.26 16:53:15 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:Khelar Udan wrote:
PS: I'm willing to work with the interest rate a little bit of for some reason it is too low for you.
The problem isnt the interest rate, the problem is that this sounds like a scam and even if it were a genuine offer, you come off sounding like a douchebag. You have 4 billion isk, which means you can afford to lose your rattlesnakes and replace them. And yet you want us to take the risk if you f*ck up and lose both rattlesnakes? And what if you did lose both ships after running only 1 site? Are you going to come back here saying "Lol i lost both rattlesnakes, need another 2 bill cause i still dont want to risk using my own money"?
I mean that's kinda how loans work. You take the risk and hope that something doesn't happen. You aren't forced to take any loan. You evaluate if you think it's worth it and go from there.
Also if anyone comes off sounding like a douchebag it's you friend. |
Khelar Udan
Wormbro
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Posted - 2016.05.26 16:54:29 -
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Xtreem wrote:Problem is you are in effect saying, I am unwilling to risk my own isk so I want to risk your isk instead.
This will not be filled
buy 1 plex, sell 1 plex, buy 2 ships, save 20% interest, use money from sites to buy new plex to pay for account for one month to claw back some RL money.
Even if it doesn't get filled it's worth a shot rather than running c3's for another 4 hours to make a bil. |
Khelar Udan
Wormbro
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Posted - 2016.05.26 16:55:53 -
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Reileen Kawahara wrote:Khelar Udan wrote:I'm not willing to spend half my total worth on two ships. So to help get started I'm asking for 1 billion ISK for one month with 20 percent interest.
Not to sound a killjoy but if you are not prepared to spend 2B which as you say you will recoup in 2 hours, why should someone else take the risk? If you have collateral then that's a different story.
I never really understood the point of collateral. If I had the collateral to give you I'd just sell that instead of losing money on interest and the like. |
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12135
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Posted - 2016.05.26 18:29:28 -
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Khelar Udan wrote:Xtreem wrote:Problem is you are in effect saying, I am unwilling to risk my own isk so I want to risk your isk instead.
This will not be filled
buy 1 plex, sell 1 plex, buy 2 ships, save 20% interest, use money from sites to buy new plex to pay for account for one month to claw back some RL money. Even if it doesn't get filled it's worth a shot rather than running c3's for another 4 hours to make a bil.
You're surely going to run them anyway, so why not just do that?
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Demolishar
United Aggression
1106
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Posted - 2016.05.26 18:51:45 -
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Khelar Udan wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Khelar Udan wrote:
PS: I'm willing to work with the interest rate a little bit of for some reason it is too low for you.
The problem isnt the interest rate, the problem is that this sounds like a scam and even if it were a genuine offer, you come off sounding like a douchebag. You have 4 billion isk, which means you can afford to lose your rattlesnakes and replace them. And yet you want us to take the risk if you f*ck up and lose both rattlesnakes? And what if you did lose both ships after running only 1 site? Are you going to come back here saying "Lol i lost both rattlesnakes, need another 2 bill cause i still dont want to risk using my own money"? I mean that's kinda how loans work. You take the risk and hope that something doesn't happen. You aren't forced to take any loan. You evaluate if you think it's worth it and go from there. Also if anyone comes off sounding like a douchebag it's you friend.
Wow.
'My rattlesnakes both died, I'm defaulting'
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12135
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Posted - 2016.05.26 18:56:02 -
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"Rattlesnake Ricdic"
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Magmain
Galactic Imperium
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Posted - 2016.05.26 19:55:06 -
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Off topic, but Bumble, I must tell you that those spectacles are simply amazing my friend. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12136
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Posted - 2016.05.26 19:58:44 -
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Magmain wrote:Off topic, but Bumble, I must tell you that those spectacles are simply amazing my friend.
Bless you, space-mate, that is the kindest thing I have heard all day!
Specs (ha!):
Forum Warrioring +2
Bullplop Seeing-Through +1
Metrosexuality +9001
Being Hunted By Anti-Hipster Gangs After Being Misidentified As Such +9001
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Magmain
Galactic Imperium
33
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Posted - 2016.05.26 20:16:10 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Magmain wrote:Off topic, but Bumble, I must tell you that those spectacles are simply amazing my friend. Bless you, space-mate, that is the kindest thing I have heard all day! Specs (ha!): Forum Warrioring +2 Bullplop Seeing-Through +1 Metrosexuality +9001 Being Hunted By Anti-Hipster Gangs After Being Misidentified As Such +9001
Khlar Udan,
Excuse us while we entirely derail your failed thread here.
I can see how the Hipster identification would be a real problem. Hailing from the great PNW myself, I have lots of first hand experience in judging hipsters. At least we have great weed. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12137
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Posted - 2016.05.26 20:29:27 -
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Quote:At least we have great weed.
Indeed!
I must confess, I am running out of mason jars with which I can throw at these marauders and therefore buy some much-needed getaway time. The authorities are no help, as there is no irony in using them.
I am at my wits end as to what to do next in order to protect myself and my features (in fact, I have scheduled my nervous breakdown just now in my hiply distressed reconditioned Palm Pilot).
Any advice, Friendo?
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Magmain
Galactic Imperium
33
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Posted - 2016.05.26 21:08:42 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Quote:At least we have great weed. Indeed! I must confess, I am running out of mason jars with which I can throw at these marauders and therefore buy some much-needed getaway time. The authorities are no help, as there is no irony in using them. I am at my wits end as to what to do next in order to protect myself and my features (in fact, I have scheduled my nervous breakdown just now in my hiply distressed reconditioned Palm Pilot). Any advice, Friendo?
There are two proven methods of dealing with hipster aggro.
Option A: Dress sharply and wear a look of unwavering judgement. It also helps to carry a Starbucks coffee cup (does not require any actual coffee), hipsters flee from this logo.
Option B: An up-cycled cow-catcher affixed to a vintage Schwinn bicycle. The hipsters will flock to see you're amazing display of vintage goods combined into useless creations only to be swiftly brushed aside by your unyielding malice. |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2016.05.26 21:11:14 -
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Khelar Udan wrote:Reileen Kawahara wrote:Khelar Udan wrote:I'm not willing to spend half my total worth on two ships. So to help get started I'm asking for 1 billion ISK for one month with 20 percent interest.
Not to sound a killjoy but if you are not prepared to spend 2B which as you say you will recoup in 2 hours, why should someone else take the risk? If you have collateral then that's a different story. I never really understood the point of collateral. If I had the collateral to give you I'd just sell that instead of losing money on interest and the like.
No you wouldn't as you have the ISK to spend but you're not......you'd rather pay the interest that you just said you wouldn't lose |
Investor Joe
Litla Sundlaugin
22
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Posted - 2016.05.27 13:53:08 -
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i will lend you 1-2b for 1-2b liquid isk in collateral, you will then pay me back 1.2-2.4b and i will give you your 1-2b collateral back to you after a month or whenever you want.
this offer will expire in 8 hours |
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Investor Joe
Litla Sundlaugin
22
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Posted - 2016.05.27 14:03:30 -
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actually since i'm a nice guy i'm willing to do 10% |
Phex Ferax
Black-Lance
2
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Posted - 2016.05.27 16:54:53 -
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I would like to pledge 20 bil. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12148
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Posted - 2016.05.27 17:34:31 -
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Phex Ferax wrote:I would like to pledge 20 bil.
Incorrect
I want pledge 20bn.
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
306
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Posted - 2016.05.31 00:27:38 -
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Khelar Udan wrote:Solonius Rex wrote:Khelar Udan wrote:
PS: I'm willing to work with the interest rate a little bit of for some reason it is too low for you.
The problem isnt the interest rate, the problem is that this sounds like a scam and even if it were a genuine offer, you come off sounding like a douchebag. You have 4 billion isk, which means you can afford to lose your rattlesnakes and replace them. And yet you want us to take the risk if you f*ck up and lose both rattlesnakes? And what if you did lose both ships after running only 1 site? Are you going to come back here saying "Lol i lost both rattlesnakes, need another 2 bill cause i still dont want to risk using my own money"? I mean that's kinda how loans work. You take the risk and hope that something doesn't happen. You aren't forced to take any loan. You evaluate if you think it's worth it and go from there. Also if anyone comes off sounding like a douchebag it's you friend.
Thats the point of a collateral. You take the risk but know that even if something does happen, you dont lose too much in way of money.
And in your case, you dont need the loan, which is the whole point.
And yes, thats exactly how loans work, buddy. Dont believe me? Try to go to a bank and get a million dollar loan.
Khelar Udan wrote:
I never really understood the point of collateral. If I had the collateral to give you I'd just sell that instead of losing money on interest and the like.
Sure. And if you need a loan to buy a car, why not just sell your house? |
DeODokktor
Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
45
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Posted - 2016.06.05 20:49:11 -
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Khelar Udan wrote:Reileen Kawahara wrote:Khelar Udan wrote:I'm not willing to spend half my total worth on two ships. So to help get started I'm asking for 1 billion ISK for one month with 20 percent interest.
Not to sound a killjoy but if you are not prepared to spend 2B which as you say you will recoup in 2 hours, why should someone else take the risk? If you have collateral then that's a different story. I never really understood the point of collateral. If I had the collateral to give you I'd just sell that instead of losing money on interest and the like.
Collateral is a method where you put your assets up against the loan in case you default. The idea is not for your assets to be liquidated. Liquidating assets can take time and effort, but a collateral based loan can be nearly instant.
For example, I have 47 Quafe Ultramarine ships worth between 3 and 5 bil each. To sell at the 5 bil mark would probably take years, to sell at the 3b mark would take months, but I still have around 200 bil worth of assets that I might want to borrow Isk against.
In a proper agreement the Ultramarines would be held in a secure state (to stop the lessor from selling them) while you work to get the payment for your loan.
Sadly CCP felt that users in eve would be too dumb to understand how this system would work, so they never put it into contracts (tho they did promise it would happen).
So that's the point of collateral, to give you some form of asset (money or other) that you can use WITHOUT destroying your collateral. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
12060
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Posted - 2016.06.06 09:49:59 -
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DeODokktor wrote: In a proper agreement the Ultramarines would be held in a secure state (to stop the lessor from selling them) while you work to get the payment for your loan.
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!
Sorry, had to.
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