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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
883
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Posted - 2016.05.27 07:09:59 -
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There are so few true -10ers in the world (http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day. Thanks but no thanks, you'd have done better to make it interactions with players rather than rats. With that in mind I have come up with a way to undo the damage being done by dailies, while at the same time showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves.
Kill every t3 you find.
When you die in a T3 you lose 1 rank the subsystem highest skill (people usually have them at V, but I've found people running round with it all at lvl I before). Let's assume it's a V skill for now. All the subsystem skills are rank 1, so that's 210k sp to get from rank IV to V.
If you commit to killing 1 t3 cruiser every 21 days (per account), you'll be doing your part to fight skillpoint inflation, having destroyed 21 days worth of SP from dailies. If you kill more, you'll be doing the economy a favour and making your own sp even more valuable.
If you don't hunt t3's (also accepting skillpoint injector kills where the loot fairy takes the injector) then you have no right to complain. |
Narrisse Chelien
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.05.27 07:19:03 -
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Killing other players for sp would just have folks podding alts. It is not in the spirit of this system.
You chose to be an outlaw, and you must accept the consequences of those actions just as the afk miner must accept being ganked and the auto piloting freighter pilot carrying billions with no tank must accept responsibility for their actions. Why are you asking CCP to cater to your play style? A day one noob can pop a rat, you can pop a rat in low sec. |
Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
883
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Posted - 2016.05.27 07:23:03 -
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Narrisse Chelien wrote:Killing other players for sp would just have folks podding alts. It is not in the spirit of this system.
You chose to be an outlaw, and you must accept the consequences of those actions just as the afk miner must accept being ganked and the auto piloting freighter pilot carrying billions with no tank must accept responsibility for their actions. Why are you asking CCP to cater to your play style? A day one noob can pop a rat, you can pop a rat in low sec.
Train reading comprehension to at least II please. Too eager for ganker tears that you came in guns blazing and made a fool of yourself. |
Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
200
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Posted - 2016.05.27 07:28:54 -
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I support this product/service. |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
1037
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Posted - 2016.05.27 07:44:29 -
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I support this product and/or service.
And in no way because I'd simply be selling more T3s, nosirreebob. Way honest. |
Coralas
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2016.05.27 08:16:08 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:There are so few true -10ers in the world ( http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day. Thanks but no thanks, you'd have done better to make it interactions with players rather than rats. With that in mind I have come up with a way to undo the damage being done by dailies, while at the same time showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves.
Most of us do not believe that skillpoint accessibility is a problem. Inherently the skill injector system removes skillpoints from the system whenever an injector is used on a pilot with more than the very low 5m or so SP, and it also takes a considerable amount of SP out of the active system and leaves it buffered on the market.
Furthermore, most subs in practice are less than 1 year long, and extra skill points being accessible to players on a typical sub allows players to partake in more activities, which is likely to prolong their subs, which is the only truly good thing for the game, and in a value sense, the SP being generated by the dailies is probably only really useful to younger subs.
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Kill every t3 you find.
This would appear to be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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When you die in a T3 you lose 1 rank the subsystem highest skill (people usually have them at V, but I've found people running round with it all at lvl I before). Let's assume it's a V skill for now. All the subsystem skills are rank 1, so that's 210k sp to get from rank IV to V.
If you commit to killing 1 t3 cruiser every 21 days (per account), you'll be doing your part to fight skillpoint inflation, having destroyed 21 days worth of SP from dailies. If you kill more, you'll be doing the economy a favour and making your own sp even more valuable.
If you don't hunt t3's (also accepting skillpoint injector kills where the loot fairy takes the injector) then you have no right to complain.
There is no logical connection between destroying SP and complaining about increased SP generation. However I have heard that chewbacca lives on endor. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
342
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Posted - 2016.05.27 08:16:24 -
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CCP giving 10k sp daily only for destroying player ships would have been awesome. Even a 1 day nub can duel in a noobship to get the sp.
However, that would result in exploits.
Other than that theres no sp inflation, the extractor injector business actually removes sp from the game. Also, who the hell flies t3s with skills at level 1. Not sure you can even fit them or they have any advantage over flying a t1 cruiser.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3022
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Posted - 2016.05.27 08:25:22 -
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yay rank 887 im gonna celebrate by getting drunk and welping a t3
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Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
126
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Posted - 2016.05.27 08:46:57 -
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Just give the reward to every 10m+ ISK kill, once a day like for the rat. Killing a rat is not engaging in any way |
Cristl
443
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Posted - 2016.05.27 09:50:12 -
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We should be able to hand in tags on behalf of other players to raise their sec status.
"Mr Concord agent, I have it on good authority that Ms Dira is a fine, upstanding citizen. Here are some tags to vouchsafe it"
:true evil:
Hey, this needs to happen. |
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1788
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Posted - 2016.05.27 09:53:29 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:Killing a rat is not engaging in any way Actually it is I've spent quite some time yesterday searching for rat to kill around JIta Visited like 5 systems to only find empty belts.... Such content
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
342
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Posted - 2016.05.27 09:57:03 -
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Cristl wrote:We should be able to hand in tags on behalf of other players to raise their sec status.
"Mr Concord agent, I have it on good authority that Ms Dira is a fine, upstanding citizen. Here are some tags to vouchsafe it"
:true evil:
Hey, this needs to happen.
That's an awesome trolling idea. They'll go to sleep pirates and wake up bears.
Can you imagine the horror?
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
895
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Posted - 2016.05.27 10:02:10 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:CCP giving 10k sp daily only for destroying player ships would have been awesome. Even a 1 day nub can duel in a noobship to get the sp. However, that would result in exploits. Other than that theres no sp inflation, the extractor injector business actually removes sp from the game. Also, who the hell flies t3s with skills at level 1. Not sure you can even fit them or they have any advantage over flying a t1 cruiser.
Mate, you have no idea.
I've seen it happen, I've seen t3's with civilian mods. Carebears will do the silliest things.
E: THE HORROR!!!! |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
343
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Posted - 2016.05.27 11:06:02 -
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Just admit it Tisi; you'd have nightmares about waking up with sec status 5.0 each night. Which, of course, would lead to insomnia and sleepless hours of prayer for peace of mind under James 315 poster.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
2133
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Posted - 2016.05.27 11:08:08 -
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I support this product and / or service.
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
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Erebus Vain
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2016.05.27 11:18:27 -
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March rabbit wrote:Aaron Honk wrote:Killing a rat is not engaging in any way Actually it is I've spent quite some time yesterday searching for rat to kill around JIta Visited like 5 systems to only find empty belts.... Such content
I love your enthusiasm, no matter if it stinks of sarcasm :P |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1078
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Posted - 2016.05.27 11:38:32 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:There are so few true -10ers in the world ( http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day. Thanks but no thanks, you'd have done better to make it interactions with players rather than rats. With that in mind I have come up with a way to undo the damage being done by dailies, while at the same time showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves. Kill every t3 you find. When you die in a T3 you lose 1 rank the subsystem highest skill (people usually have them at V, but I've found people running round with it all at lvl I before). Let's assume it's a V skill for now. All the subsystem skills are rank 1, so that's 210k sp to get from rank IV to V. If you commit to killing 1 t3 cruiser every 21 days (per account), you'll be doing your part to fight skillpoint inflation, having destroyed 21 days worth of SP from dailies. If you kill more, you'll be doing the economy a favour and making your own sp even more valuable. If you don't hunt t3's (also accepting skillpoint injector kills where the loot fairy takes the injector) then you have no right to complain.
You sound all worked up about this dailies business... ...you should try mining it does wonders for nerves,just be prepare to fend against skill point rats...dem be nasty.
Typhoon Fleet Issue SOE skin for the win.
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Adrian Maifeld
Nihilistic Disorder Just A Game.
44
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Posted - 2016.05.27 11:42:48 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote: [...] it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day.[...] Real pity.
Tisiphone Dira wrote: If you don't hunt rats ([...]) then you have no right to complain. Corrected this for you.
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Memphis Baas
1613
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Posted - 2016.05.27 11:49:49 -
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Go ahead and kill your T3 quota so you retain your "right to complain", but FFS complain somewhere else. |
Davian Thule Pirkibo
Absolute Massive Destruction Test Alliance Please Ignore
71
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Posted - 2016.05.27 12:25:35 -
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There is no damage being done agent, and you are suggesting the pursuit of those whom may be followers of the code. |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
17748
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Posted - 2016.05.27 12:30:06 -
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Narrisse Chelien wrote:Killing other players for sp would just have folks podding alts. It is not in the spirit of this system.
The "system" is shooting a single rat. It's absolutely in the spirit of the system.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2877
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Posted - 2016.05.27 12:41:17 -
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Malcanis wrote:Narrisse Chelien wrote:Killing other players for sp would just have folks podding alts. It is not in the spirit of this system. The "system" is shooting a single rat. It's absolutely in the spirit of the system.
I kind of wonder how many newbie would get hooked to paying 30 a month if we were to tell them truthfully that the best way to get those SP, especially for a fresh newbie who isn't too versed in the art of PvP yet, is to get a second account from day 1. As opposed to that, how many would just say **** this ****, I'm not sinking money into a game that tells me I need a second account from day 1. |
Max Fubarticus
The Scope Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2016.05.27 13:19:08 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:There are so few true -10ers in the world ( http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day. Thanks but no thanks, you'd have done better to make it interactions with players rather than rats. With that in mind I have come up with a way to undo the damage being done by dailies, while at the same time showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves. Kill every t3 you find. When you die in a T3 you lose 1 rank the subsystem highest skill (people usually have them at V, but I've found people running round with it all at lvl I before). Let's assume it's a V skill for now. All the subsystem skills are rank 1, so that's 210k sp to get from rank IV to V. If you commit to killing 1 t3 cruiser every 21 days (per account), you'll be doing your part to fight skillpoint inflation, having destroyed 21 days worth of SP from dailies. If you kill more, you'll be doing the economy a favour and making your own sp even more valuable. If you don't hunt t3's (also accepting skillpoint injector kills where the loot fairy takes the injector) then you have no right to complain.
OPConfig/OPFlush
Civil discourse is uniquely human. After all, when is the last time a pride of lions and a herd of water buffalo negotiated SOV over a watering hole? Never.
Someone either gets their ass kicked or eaten. At the end of the day someone holds SOV.
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Isaac Armer
Tactical Stability Union Apocalypse Now.
242
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Posted - 2016.05.27 13:52:16 -
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Aaron Honk wrote:Just give the reward to every 10m+ ISK kill, once a day like for the rat. Killing a rat is not engaging in any way
It's about as engaging as killing an AFK mining or industrial ship |
Yochi Miyatsuda
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.05.27 13:57:54 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:blah, blah, blah...showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves...*brofist*
I bet New Order Logistic's corp chat is a real circle-jerk isn't it? |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2877
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Posted - 2016.05.27 14:06:47 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:There are so few true -10ers in the world ( http://eveboard.com/fullranks/50-lowest-security-status) it's just not worth giving up our highly coveted status as the elite of the elite for a few measly skillpoints each day. Thanks but no thanks, you'd have done better to make it interactions with players rather than rats. With that in mind I have come up with a way to undo the damage being done by dailies, while at the same time showing your commitment to not being a sheep, instead being one of the elite wolves. Kill every t3 you find. When you die in a T3 you lose 1 rank the subsystem highest skill (people usually have them at V, but I've found people running round with it all at lvl I before). Let's assume it's a V skill for now. All the subsystem skills are rank 1, so that's 210k sp to get from rank IV to V. If you commit to killing 1 t3 cruiser every 21 days (per account), you'll be doing your part to fight skillpoint inflation, having destroyed 21 days worth of SP from dailies. If you kill more, you'll be doing the economy a favour and making your own sp even more valuable. If you don't hunt t3's (also accepting skillpoint injector kills where the loot fairy takes the injector) then you have no right to complain.
Why did SP inflation become a problem now but wasn't before? Each day, even if every single account get their daily done, more SP is created out of thin air adding to the already large pool of total SP in the game by regular passive training than by the opportunity payout. Why didn't people cry about inflation back then? |
Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
60
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Posted - 2016.05.27 14:07:57 -
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OP, this is a very interesting experiment you are doing and i have to say the results are rather surprising.
I endorse all the endorsements in this thread. |
Narrisse Chelien
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2016.05.27 14:52:21 -
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Malcanis wrote:Narrisse Chelien wrote:Killing other players for sp would just have folks podding alts. It is not in the spirit of this system. The "system" is shooting a single rat. It's absolutely in the spirit of the system.
no its not, and i expected an eve player to be less daft
the point of the system is to get people undocked, playing in space and giving them perhaps a reason - since they have already logged on and undocked - of doing something else and contributing to the game at large.
an abuseable system that station-trading or pure inudstrialists would have no real chance of completing wihtout someone rolling over and saying 'pod me pls' or abusing an alt is NOT going to work. |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1789
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Posted - 2016.05.27 15:02:23 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Malcanis wrote:Narrisse Chelien wrote:Killing other players for sp would just have folks podding alts. It is not in the spirit of this system. The "system" is shooting a single rat. It's absolutely in the spirit of the system. I kind of wonder how many newbie would get hooked to paying 30 a month if we were to tell them truthfully that the best way to get those SP, especially for a fresh newbie who isn't too versed in the art of PvP yet, is to get a second account from day 1. As opposed to that, how many would just say **** this ****, I'm not sinking money into a game that tells me I need a second account from day 1. You don't need to get seconds account. You just can group with other new player and kill each other for both of you get this bonus. A little more effort than simple killing a rat but gives better results right from day 1.
Even better if CCP won't limit ship classes for this bonus. So these new players could kill their newbee ships and lose literally nothing.
Caveat of this system would be that killboards will just die: they will have thousands kills per day more than usual.
But overall this would be better than killing a rat.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Gwenaelle de Ardevon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2353
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Posted - 2016.05.27 15:23:23 -
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Elite of the Elite ... buahahahahahahahahahahahah
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