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Sir Kad
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Galimiy Portret So... Eh, whats your plan?
To have fun of course...
Originally by: Laythun Why do you feel the need to post now? in your darkest hour?
Far far from our darkest hour. So we lost some space, it's only a temporary setback.
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Laythun
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.27 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Kad
Originally by: Galimiy Portret So... Eh, whats your plan?
To have fun of course...
Originally by: Laythun Why do you feel the need to post now? in your darkest hour?
Far far from our darkest hour. So we lost some space, it's only a temporary setback.
As a stated territorial alliance, losing your space is indeed your darkest hour, you can argue all you want but losing your space is/was not your goal, true?
So i reiterate my question.
Why do you feel the need to post this in your darkest hour?
*snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo Black Lance Brother
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Atreus Minmatarius
Fatalix Inc. Schism.
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Atreus Minmatarius on 27/02/2007 18:02:02 just some random thoughts ...
well many ppl, i guess, don't get why this is posted (me included)...
He has fun... ok.. most of us do, yet we don't post such threads. So the timing of the post and the random content of "patting on one selfs backs for past achievments" looks like paving the way to exit on high note. Nothing wrong with that by the way. So some ppl smell blood and jump on the poor guy...
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Fubumaki
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Sir Kad
Originally by: Galimiy Portret So... Eh, whats your plan?
To have fun of course...
Originally by: Laythun Why do you feel the need to post now? in your darkest hour?
Far far from our darkest hour. So we lost some space, it's only a temporary setback.
As a stated territorial alliance, losing your space is indeed your darkest hour, you can argue all you want but losing your space is/was not your goal, true?
So i reiterate my question.
Why do you feel the need to post this in your darkest hour?
Territory can be lost. Territory can be gained.
Goals can be made/met/changed on slightest whims.
LV has strong bonds that go back further than LV its self.
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Blargh Johnson
The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:30:00 -
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PNX-R rocks. One of the few CHIMP corps at the end that would fight no matter what. Much respect for them.
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Ficti0n
FireTech Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:59:00 -
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Sounds like your having a lot of fun VBoy.
And you seem like one of those people that realizes that this is just a game, and if your having fun then thats all that matters in the end
I'll keep up the pew pew if you do! Ficti0n
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.27 21:13:00 -
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Most of LV are probably a good bunch of guys, but being allined to the most hated alliance in EVE, puts you in their boat. Too bad.
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ceaon
Gallente Porandor
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Posted - 2007.02.27 21:38:00 -
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is true that LV move now on stain ? @@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@@@@
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Touk
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Valkazm well i really didnt find anything i wanted to flame wanted to comend you ... oh wait .. forum lies ? so were where you when KOS lost there station didnt see you or your corp there .. But its nice you speak for the whole of LV.. And its good you have loyalty beacuse lv leaders will stab you in the back ...
yes yes, we all know, KOS lost thier stations because we werent there to help them, we know. sorry.
just make sure all your new allies know to hold your hands and save you from your own incompetence. :D
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VBboy
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Valkazm well i really didnt find anything i wanted to flame wanted to comend you ... oh wait .. forum lies ? so were where you when KOS lost there station didnt see you or your corp there .. But its nice you speak for the whole of LV.. And its good you have loyalty beacuse lv leaders will stab you in the back ...
I guess lots don't realise but when KOS was being hit IAC were also hitting CHIMP, as such we had to deal with this as CHIMP was losing space quickly!
The outside world saw that LV did not come at times to aid CHIMP, but the truth was LV at the time was busy helping V, but came when it could.
So i'll stand my ground on this one :) as this was my experience from my perspective in CHIMP.
PS. Lo to all old friends! Yep i'm still alive and kicking! I think *pokes*
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VBboy
The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Sir Kad
Originally by: Galimiy Portret So... Eh, whats your plan?
To have fun of course...
Originally by: Laythun Why do you feel the need to post now? in your darkest hour?
Far far from our darkest hour. So we lost some space, it's only a temporary setback.
As a stated territorial alliance, losing your space is indeed your darkest hour, you can argue all you want but losing your space is/was not your goal, true?
So i reiterate my question.
Why do you feel the need to post this in your darkest hour?
Why the post you ask! Initially i did not want to explain the motive behind the post as i like to see what peoples own interpretations are lol.
Lol to the flames! I'm in PNX-R, we don't mind the Heat!
As for the motives themselves:
1. Raise a bit of profile for both PNX-R and LV and defend what i see as alot of perception attacks on the Alliance. I guess i felt it was needed to make sure LV got the credit in places where their allegence was questioned. Words do count and people do listern to forums.
2. Say thanks to the community for an awesome war that is still raging! And will go on for many a month to come! On this note I wanted people who side with the coalition just to take a moment to consider what its like in our shoes! (i expect replies to that!)
3. Also for those who flew with us and moved on just so they can see where the PNX-R is now. And of course to kick off some good Banter between the Alliances.
4. Its also a time to reflect on the eve of more hostilities, that LV actually is helping keep the coalition together lol, were big enough to fight against and in fact its taking the whole coalition of Alliances to shift the forces of power in the south. Even if i was sat on the outside i would have to give LV that credibility. Thats not to say there has not been help along the way from friends/NAP's. In fact We might be out numbered but the will to survive and pull together is great.
5. And i just wanted to let peeps know were proud to have been refined by the fire that the coalition has constantly brought to our homelands. I have lost a few men to other corps, but on the whole this game, this corp has tought me what it means to lead men through difficult war torn times. We have really been inspired as a community in PNX-R to remain calm through some crazy times, and through it all having a laugh!
Thats all folks!
VB
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Logan Williams
Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Logan Williams on 27/02/2007 23:38:24
Originally by: Touk
Originally by: Valkazm well i really didnt find anything i wanted to flame wanted to comend you ... oh wait .. forum lies ? so were where you when KOS lost there station didnt see you or your corp there .. But its nice you speak for the whole of LV.. And its good you have loyalty beacuse lv leaders will stab you in the back ...
yes yes, we all know, KOS lost thier stations because we werent there to help them, we know. sorry.
just make sure all your new allies know to hold your hands and save you from your own incompetence. :D
I respect you as a friend and as a player but, look at your alliance from a step back. Most recently they've gone from "We love ASCN" to "Hey BoB, we love you guys, come help us?" From "We'll never turn on our bretheren V." to "Crap, where did our meatshield go?"
Face it man, LV don't do anything without the thought of "What's in it for me?" Hell, LV was charging alliance MEMBERS 25% refine tax at one time. That's, and I'm guessing at this, prolly why the guy had his corp go join the omist guys for awhile, just to be able to rebuild.
No "cause" only greed with LV. I don't point this at the general membership. I just wonder how many people missed out of "that new battleship for fleets" while you supported nice, shiny new titans that are, to this point, not making a whole lot of difference.
Vboy, if you're proud to be these guys, have at it and all the luck in the world in having fun. |
munchy
Prison Break Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:45:00 -
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this is why LV will not make the comeback RA did, the members already think they've lost. ---
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: munchy this is why LV will not make the comeback RA did, the members already think they've lost.
Exactly.
Some self esteem never harms anybody --------------------------------
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fuze
Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix It's sad to see a thread like this get covered in flames, from both sides. VBboy good luck to you, enjoy the game like it's meant to be enjoyed!
/QFT
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fuze
Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix It's sad to see a thread like this get covered in flames, from both sides. VBboy good luck to you, enjoy the game like it's meant to be enjoyed!
/QFT
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M1NeR
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.28 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: M1NeR on 28/02/2007 01:25:16 Gee, how fast Time can be... It was not so long ago... really. I entered our TeamSpeak and someone was telling about shocking news of 11 RA dread losses. LV was all over the Cache assaulting the last stations. This forum was full of topics like "RA dead" or "RA not dead yet" blah blah blah... So much pride, so much "honor"... And now... even less then in a year, yep? It all turned inside out. "LV dead", "LV not dead yet" is it? Life can be very interesting sometimes, nothing really new though... it happened earlier thousands of times, it will happen again even more... yet it still makes me amused every now then ... Time runs really fast doh . -------
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.28 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Proud to be FAnG... oops wrong game.
Hi, [FAnG]Lisa/Sledge Hammer ... here. Neocron German server from 2002 to 2004 I think. Maybe we know us. ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |
Captain Zeta
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Posted - 2007.02.28 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Logan Williams Edited by: Logan Williams on 27/02/2007 23:38:24
Originally by: Touk
Originally by: Valkazm well i really didnt find anything i wanted to flame wanted to comend you ... oh wait .. forum lies ? so were where you when KOS lost there station didnt see you or your corp there .. But its nice you speak for the whole of LV.. And its good you have loyalty beacuse lv leaders will stab you in the back ...
yes yes, we all know, KOS lost thier stations because we werent there to help them, we know. sorry.
just make sure all your new allies know to hold your hands and save you from your own incompetence. :D
I respect you as a friend and as a player but, look at your alliance from a step back. Most recently they've gone from "We love ASCN" to "Hey BoB, we love you guys, come help us?" From "We'll never turn on our bretheren V." to "Crap, where did our meatshield go?"
Face it man, LV don't do anything without the thought of "What's in it for me?" Hell, LV was charging alliance MEMBERS 25% refine tax at one time. That's, and I'm guessing at this, prolly why the guy had his corp go join the omist guys for awhile, just to be able to rebuild.
No "cause" only greed with LV. I don't point this at the general membership. I just wonder how many people missed out of "that new battleship for fleets" while you supported nice, shiny new titans that are, to this point, not making a whole lot of difference.
Vboy, if you're proud to be these guys, have at it and all the luck in the world in having fun.
try to sound less ignorant when you make a post plsthnks
If I'm in a meat shield corp so be it, I'm in one of the best alliances in the game. You guys over in the BlobNodeCrash Coalition have no idea what it is like to be with a real alliance, and corp with guys who actually give 2 hoots about you. If you would actually take a look at your own alliance you would see that you my friend are actually in the alliance/corp that are being used as cannon fodder/meat shield, you blob the crap out of a system with your massive number of EXPENDABLE ships, while we out numbered take out 3/4 of your entire fleet losing about 1/4 of ours when we could easily take out the rest of you guys, pull back because out fcs care about us and want us to live to fight another day and not lose ships, we are on the ropes lets face it, everyone knows it but when you are backed into a corner the animal comes out and you come ack claws bared swinging and you go for kill, hard and fast, My claws are bared, get ready for um, cause you have just made my kill list.
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Zeta Nataga
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Posted - 2007.02.28 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Zeta Nataga on 28/02/2007 01:25:52 EDIT:
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CheneysGun
Caldari The Phoenix Rising Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.28 01:45:00 -
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I'm going to add my two isk...
I've been with PNX-R for a very long time. I enjoy flying with my corp mates. I enjoy the pew pew with them, mining with them , ratting, etc. I realy, realy enjoy the strugles that we have faced, overcome, grown as a crop. That is what Eve is for me. It's challange of learning, growing and the strugle to overcome my fears and shortcomings.
Goons, RA, the entire coalition can't defeat that. I'll fight, I'll keep fighting because I am not fighting for a complex or station or isk. I'm fighting for my Corp and now I fight for LV. You can not "crush" what you can not have.
You can not conquer what you desire most and that is my will to continue as an individual, as a pilot of PNX-R, as a member of LV. The Phoenix Rising Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected])
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.28 03:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/02/2007 02:57:33
Originally by: munchy this is why LV will not make the comeback RA did, the members already think they've lost.
The fact that LV doesn't have 8 trillion ISK from farming bugged complexes isn't helping either.
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Touk
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.28 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Logan Williams Edited by: Logan Williams on 27/02/2007 23:38:24
Originally by: Touk
Originally by: Valkazm well i really didnt find anything i wanted to flame wanted to comend you ... oh wait .. forum lies ? so were where you when KOS lost there station didnt see you or your corp there .. But its nice you speak for the whole of LV.. And its good you have loyalty beacuse lv leaders will stab you in the back ...
yes yes, we all know, KOS lost thier stations because we werent there to help them, we know. sorry.
just make sure all your new allies know to hold your hands and save you from your own incompetence. :D
I respect you as a friend and as a player but, look at your alliance from a step back. Most recently they've gone from "We love ASCN" to "Hey BoB, we love you guys, come help us?" From "We'll never turn on our bretheren V." to "Crap, where did our meatshield go?"
Face it man, LV don't do anything without the thought of "What's in it for me?" Hell, LV was charging alliance MEMBERS 25% refine tax at one time. That's, and I'm guessing at this, prolly why the guy had his corp go join the omist guys for awhile, just to be able to rebuild.
No "cause" only greed with LV. I don't point this at the general membership. I just wonder how many people missed out of "that new battleship for fleets" while you supported nice, shiny new titans that are, to this point, not making a whole lot of difference.
Vboy, if you're proud to be these guys, have at it and all the luck in the world in having fun.
hey logan, been a while. i know LV aint perfect, and i dont think anyone is trying to say as such.
Yes alot of the stuff LV does is motivated by 'whats in it for us?' mentality but thats the same for 90% of alliances out there.
im sorry if KOS felt negelected but Chimp, KOS, LV and V were different alliances at the end of the day and i think alot of people thought that each alliance should be able to stand on thier own feet for at least a few days, now ill give KOS their due they did hold out for a time, and thats all we could expect from them really.....but napping the other side without telling their own allies and handing what was left of their region over was unforgivable.
Anyway thats all in the past, congrats to KOS for taking ISS down.
LV isnt perfect, we know that, but we're no more selfish than any other alliance in game no matter how much they preach to be fighting for the greater good.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.02.28 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Kad <Snip>
Originally by: Laythun Why do you feel the need to post now? in your darkest hour?
Far far from our darkest hour. So we lost some space, it's only a temporary setback.
There is a fine line between Optimism and delusion.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.28 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 28/02/2007 09:36:29
Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/02/2007 02:57:33
Originally by: munchy this is why LV will not make the comeback RA did, the members already think they've lost.
The fact that LV doesn't have 8 trillion ISK from farming bugged complexes isn't helping either.
DS...I am surprised at you given your long-time standing and ingame expertise. This was not needed mate...and thier time will bloody well come regardless of ISK. You should know better
And Munchy.....dream on.... "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
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hothead
Minmatar Confederation of Red Miners
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Posted - 2007.02.28 11:07:00 -
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LV are a good and respectfull alliance and have alot of good guys..... the amount of guys attacking them atm is overwheling for anyone....props to you guys tbh... :)
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VONLUCK88
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Posted - 2007.02.28 11:14:00 -
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Hmm allways fun to look at the forum. Allways to side of the coin. LV telling their story and Goon their. But allways check the killboards. Goon looses most of all alliances, but perhaps not in isk becouse they use cheap ships and outfitt. Corp that have good kill ratio in this war is perhaps not LV, But RA, AAA, BOB, and some small corp like Serra and Tyrell. Otherwise its really even between the to sides in this war.
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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.28 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: VONLUCK88 Hmm allways fun to look at the forum. Allways to side of the coin. LV telling their story and Goon their. But allways check the killboards. Goon looses most of all alliances, but perhaps not in isk becouse they use cheap ships and outfitt. Corp that have good kill ratio in this war is perhaps not LV, But RA, AAA, BOB, and some small corp like Serra and Tyrell. Otherwise its really even between the to sides in this war.
When will people understand that K/D ratios don't mean anything anylonger? The ammount of ships destroyed will never surpass the wallets of the bigger alliances or their players now that T2 has been around so long. The only thing that really might hurt wallets is loosing important BPO's or capital shipyards or the most important.. the morale.... (wich is tbh not the best in LV atm AFAIK)
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NeverL
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.28 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Logan Williams
I respect you as a friend and as a player but, look at your alliance from a step back. Most recently they've gone from "We love ASCN" to "Hey BoB, we love you guys, come help us?" From "We'll never turn on our bretheren V." to "Crap, where did our meatshield go?"
look whos talking, your own corp went from
lol imp nulbets to OMG xirtam is so cool to god damn this place sucks.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.28 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 28/02/2007 12:15:09
Originally by: VBboy The outside world saw that LV did not come at times to aid CHIMP, but the truth was LV at the time was busy helping V, but came when it could.
Without critizizing anyone: I have no idea, when CHIMP needed help badly. I thought they had more of internal troubles, with corps like Finfleet switching to LV, so they lost strong corps and were less involved in the war against ragoon. Think I haven't been flying with chimp, since the retreat from c-j.
-V- wasn't really in trouble, before RAGoon started to attack KZF. Ok, JLO fell before, but that doesn't really count. ( It fell, because poses went offline, when V wanted to give the system to OPUS alliance, because for us JLO was just a waste of isk, since we had our refinery outpost in KZF. ) So **** hit the fan for -V- maybe in the last two months of 2006 or so ? Before that it was buisness as usual like trying to keep the pipe to n-rael clean and raiding into enemy territory.
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