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Sebulba Kashuken
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2016.05.31 15:12:38 -
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I dont get it, why Employment history is visibe, not good for rookie players, when veteran seas someone with EH of week or month he knows it could be easy target, so this should be hidden, if corp wants to see my EH then i should be able to send/show them. |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
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Posted - 2016.05.31 15:21:35 -
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it could also fool someone else to think they are an easy target and they get rekt for being complacent.
EVE is a psychological game in many aspects, let's not remove things like this that add to it. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.05.31 15:23:48 -
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Rookie players have no emplayment history, so how this effects them i have no idea.
Charachter age actually means nothing anymore.
Better the Devil you know.
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Sebulba Kashuken
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2016.05.31 15:27:25 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:it could also fool someone else to think they are an easy target and they get rekt for being complacent.
EVE is a psychological game in many aspects, let's not remove things like this that add to it.
it could be the case in just few cases
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Sebulba Kashuken
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2016.05.31 15:29:43 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Rookie players have no emplayment history, so how this effects them i have no idea.
Charachter age actually means nothing anymore.
usually means lower skill points, game knowledge
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.05.31 15:44:59 -
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Sebulba Kashuken wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Rookie players have no emplayment history, so how this effects them i have no idea.
Charachter age actually means nothing anymore. usually means lower skill points, game knowledge
skill injectors kinda rekt that
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
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Posted - 2016.05.31 15:53:39 -
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Sebulba Kashuken wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Rookie players have no emplayment history, so how this effects them i have no idea.
Charachter age actually means nothing anymore. usually means lower skill points, game knowledge It can also mean...
- alt character of a veteran (see: spy!) - disposable cyno alt (see: extreme threat, primary on sight!) - scout and/or alt character scout for a roaming gang (see: eyes and bait, better shoot it just to be safe) - bored veteran having a giggle (see: it's a trap!)
In all seriousness... lower skillpoints and experience does not mean a new player is a mewling kitten with no capacity to defend him/herself. Are they easier targets? Yes. But they have tools at their disposal and they simply need to pick them up and come up with a plan... just like I and every other newbie did before.
How did you Veterans start?
"Learn how things work. The intricacies, interactions, and hard limits... knowing these things will grant you far more power in the long run."
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ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2016.05.31 16:02:36 -
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I wouldn't concern yourself too much with your employment history. With all of the tools available in the game (being allowed to make alts, selling characters on the character bazaar, skill injectors, etc) it is difficult to tell the capability of someone based on their employment history alone.
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Sebulba Kashuken
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2016.05.31 16:10:54 -
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ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
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Posted - 2016.05.31 16:27:39 -
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. Nearly all the Intel tools got nerfed badly. Employment history is one of the few remaining that has some relevance... but not much as has been pointed out.
Rookies aren't usually targeted anyway because they don't usually have much. However if you're jumping through gates with a PLEX in your cargo hold, it won't matter how old your character is... they are going to be in for an interesting time. So, it's more about what you do and where you put yourself that are serious risk factors, not how old the toon is.
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Isaac Armer
Tactical Stability Union Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2016.05.31 17:18:43 -
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A three year old player complaining that employment history can't be hidden is slightly suspicious to me. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.05.31 17:21:59 -
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Sebulba Kashuken wrote:ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Why? In what ways would it improve the game?
As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Sebulba Kashuken
Alliance of Free Stars
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Posted - 2016.06.01 12:37:24 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Sebulba Kashuken wrote:ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Why? In what ways would it improve the game? As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by.
whtvr, tell me a reason why this should be public ? im not walking with my CV in public places |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.06.01 12:40:23 -
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Sebulba Kashuken wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Sebulba Kashuken wrote:ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Why? In what ways would it improve the game? As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by. whtvr, tell me a reason why this should be public ? im not walking with my CV in public places
so we can all see the dank corporations you have been in
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2016.06.01 12:51:55 -
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People, people, let's compromise the usual way:
- Employment history is visible with an API check. Like your wallet, what skills you're training, your emails, etc. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2016.06.01 14:58:09 -
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Sebulba Kashuken wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Sebulba Kashuken wrote:ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Why? In what ways would it improve the game? As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by. whtvr, tell me a reason why this should be public ? im not walking with my CV in public places
So that every CEO can know what you did in your previous corp so they can reject your application if you were a douche.
What OP thinks about corp history wrote: He's just a pubbie - check his corp history,
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
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Posted - 2016.06.01 15:12:34 -
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Why not. It's much more 'free intel' than watchlist. Let's get rid of local, overview, and dscan too. They don't require any skills to use and they just give so much FREE INTEL!
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:18:39 -
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Sebulba Kashuken wrote:I dont get it, why Employment history is visibe, not good for rookie players, when veteran seas someone with EH of week or month he knows it could be easy target, so this should be hidden, if corp wants to see my EH then i should be able to send/show them.
This is such a situational complaint.
Like how it would be nice if you didnt show up in local if youre cloaked, which is great if youre the one who is cloaked and about to pounce on a target, but sucks if youre the target.
You may not like the employment history being visible, but later on when you start getting into this game, you'll appreciate how you can take a single look at a neutral in local and see if he is a threat or not.
Maybe then you'll be saying "Man, I was wrong, im glad i can see this guys employment history, otherwise i wouldve never known that this guy is so dangerous". |
Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:15:42 -
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and once again it applies!; Malcanis's Law - "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:38:24 -
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Sebulba Kashuken wrote:I dont get it, why Employment history is visibe, not good for rookie players, when veteran seas someone with EH of week or month he knows it could be easy target, so this should be hidden, if corp wants to see my EH then i should be able to send/show them. No. That would have reduced my chances at gank baiting with alts significantly in the past.
Remove insurance.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:47:35 -
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Sebulba Kashuken wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Sebulba Kashuken wrote:ok, if you say so, with all the tools and injectors etc... i still think character should be able to make it visible or hidden this is the point. Why? In what ways would it improve the game? As has been pointed out, employment history is a poor metric to judge another character by. whtvr, tell me a reason why this should be public ? im not walking with my CV in public places So your reasons to make it private consist of "whtvr"?
You're the one demanding change and challenging the current public status of your employment history, thus it is up to you to make a case for it; so far you've failed spectacularly and didn't even manage to post in the right part of the forums.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 19:25:11 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Why not. It's much more 'free intel' than watchlist. Let's get rid of local, overview, and dscan too. They don't require any skills to use and they just give so much FREE INTEL! One of my corp mates was complaining the other night about the client lag and said " would be nice if the client told me when i was docked verses in space "
Obviously he was roundly slagged off for relying of free intell .
Its something of a re acouring joke with us.
Module graphic not cyceling - free intell, you should have to work to find out if the module is cyceling
Where'd me beeden drones go? - **** you man find them yourself, dont be askiing for free intell You get the idea.
Better the Devil you know.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2016.06.01 20:09:02 -
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Ka Plaa wrote:and once again it applies!; Malcanis's Law - "Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of 'new players', that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players."
Probably better to say, to the overwhelming advantage of the person making the request. You're quote is really a matter of richer, older players knowing how best to take advantage of any game mechanic compared to a newbie.
Even older players starting new characters will have an overwhelming advantage against new players starting new characters.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2016.06.01 20:11:53 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Why not. It's much more 'free intel' than watchlist. Let's get rid of local, overview, and dscan too. They don't require any skills to use and they just give so much FREE INTEL! One of my corp mates was complaining the other night about the client lag and said " would be nice if the client told me when i was docked verses in space " Obviously he was roundly slagged off for relying of free intell . Its something of a re acouring joke with us. Module graphic not cyceling - free intell, you should have to work to find out if the module is cyceling Where'd me beeden drones go? - **** you man find them yourself, dont be askiing for free intell You get the idea.
yea, but your corp was one of the ones most strongly affected by the whole thing. So I can totally see your mates having a strong reaction. RIP watch list.
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Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.01 20:40:20 -
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Not convinced and I refer to employment history every damn day when interacting with players.
So I am biased but you did not sway that bias.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
954
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Posted - 2016.06.02 15:22:39 -
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Imagine if notes were made public.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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