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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 15:43:52 -
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Several months ago we announced Changes to OS Minimum Requirements and our intent to phase out DirectX 9 support for EVE Online in the near future.
We would like to provide an update on that phase out. The initial steps of the phase out will become visible in the upcoming release for graphic features such as secondary lighting; this will only be available on the DirectX 11 client. Although we have no immediate plans to completely remove DirectX 9 support, it is an inevitable conclusion. We are also aware that - currently - the Mac client is DX9 only.
Check out further details in CCP Vertex' latest blog DirectX 9 Phase Out.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer - Volunteer Manager
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Ixildor III
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:01:45 -
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This is great! Except that DX11 is currently unusable for me due to constant crashes. I have a support ticket open about it (#196433) and there have been unanswered posts in the forums reporting similar symptoms. |
Lord's Prophet
Totally Abstract O X I D E
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:06:27 -
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Linux users require DX9 too. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:14:57 -
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"We would like to assure the Mac community that we are aware that the current client is DirectX 9 only. This is something we have been discussing internally and we are investigating solutions."
Care to supply more details?
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Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC The Old Guard.
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:15:39 -
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Finally time to join the rest of the world in the 21st century and embrace Vulkan?
<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>
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KhanidLady
Action Super Dupper Test Corp
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:17:03 -
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Linux Crew checking in. We like you CCP and would like to stay supported too!
+1 for Vulkan btw :D |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:25:45 -
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I guess folks had best speak up. This would also be a good time for the CSM to check in with folks as well. Is EVE soon going to become unavailable to Mac, Linux and older PCs?
CCP has been paring down parts of the game that someone deems 'extraneous' such as world building, lore and such. Are a percentage of players and subscriptions also going to be deemed unnecessary? |
Ix Method
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:33:41 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:one such change will be a new cloud rendering approach YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
Travelling at the speed of love.
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Dominous Nolen
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:37:37 -
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So for those of us who play on older hardware, we're outta luck eh once you decide to fully pull the plug on Dx9 if we don't have a Dx9 support card in say a laptop eh? RIP
@dominousnolen
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Arrakis Askiras
timeNos
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:46:17 -
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Dominous Nolen wrote:So for those of us who play on older hardware, we're **** outta luck eh? Thanks CCP. G-FING-G
Not just people with old hardware. Got a spanking new ATI/AMD graphics card (well, not spanking new but almost: R9 390) and with DX11 I had frequent crashes which caused me to lose two ships (a Proteus and a cheap frig). Since I've switched to DX9 I've had no crashes. Apparently I'm not the only one with that problem.
It's nice that CCP intends to move forwards but please make sure that everything works on the 'new' API before you switch old the more stable legacy mode. |
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Sensei Meelia
Homegrown Enterprises
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:49:40 -
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Typical, after getting rid of the crap that was Windows 10 and moving to linux, CCP comes up with this bullshit, what next?
EVE-ONLINE free to play? |
Dominous Nolen
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:54:45 -
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Sensei Meelia wrote:Typical, after getting rid of the crap that was Windows 10 and moving to linux, CCP comes up with this bullshit, what next?
EVE-ONLINE free to play?
Right?! I was just going to get my linux install going and now this... *grumbles*
Also what about this? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6503916
@dominousnolen
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Drabbin Mishi
Excognative Ignorance Short Bus Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:56:11 -
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I believe that the Overwolf overlay does not support EVE with DX11, only DX9. |
Dominous Nolen
We're Happy In Wormhole Space
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Posted - 2016.06.01 16:59:08 -
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Drabbin Mishi wrote:I believe that the Overwolf overlay does not support EVE with DX11, only DX9.
I've had weird flickering issues with it in Dx11, so I just gave up on it.
@dominousnolen
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Kaylin Drake
Profound Destiny
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Posted - 2016.06.01 17:12:16 -
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Just in the last month I moved to linux for the first time after spending most of my life on windows systems.. and am extremely happy with this decision. And now this happens.. |
Yliras Tine
Uranus Intruders Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.06.01 17:14:01 -
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With DX11 when I close the game I get a BSOD. When I restart the computer and launch the game all the settings and windows are restored to default. Conclussion every time i play EVE with DX11 i have to personalice the game interface from scratch. Not a good deal. |
Oktura Ostus
Wicked Privateers Smile 'n' Wave
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Posted - 2016.06.01 17:27:02 -
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For 3 years I play EVE. Nothing managed to stop me from constantly paying for my gametime. Neither fozzysov, nor nerf/boosts, nor extractors. Honestly I even was not sad because of those patches - I like EVE in any form and gameplay.
However, looks like this one will be my last patch :(
I use Linux as desktop for 4 times more years then play EVE, and now I simply don't have space for any version of Windows, and don't have a wish to close open tabs, browser tabs and reboot system into some strange crazy environment just for 1 hour of pvp.
Honestly I don't even understand why should I do this, when linux can run such top-class games like cs:go, warthunder, shogun, xcom, bioshock. 7 years ago linux users had to survive with windows to be able to play good games. Now my steam library full of good linux games, I even haven't played big part of them. May it will be time to play them
Could you please say how many months linux users have before end? So we could correctly plan our isks and spend them for plexes and pvp instead of saving them for nothing.
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Mikkhi Kisht
Vanity Thy Name Is
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Posted - 2016.06.01 17:35:23 -
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Considering the number of times the single simple solution to a graphics issues, performance lagging, or other complaints down in the Workarounds & Issues threads is 'turn off DX11, use DX9' when do you plan to fix the problems that nearly always crop up with DX11?
I have a relatively new higher end graphics card. I do not use DX11 since even with the better hardware and it's drivers all up to date, DX11 is a hot mess of bugged out for the Eve game client.
Don't do it. Just don't. |
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
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Posted - 2016.06.01 17:53:56 -
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>we will be removing clouds from the DirectX 9 client in an upcoming release.
You guys should make a separate DX9 client and charge money for it. I would pay premium for no clouds |
NinjaTurtle
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.06.01 17:58:28 -
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Call me old fashioned, but if you guys make changes that affect (read: alienate) portions of your player base, it's good form to have solutions to those issues before you make the aforementioned changes. I completely understand the standpoint of investing development into a dated API but basically telling portions of your player base to screw off isn't the way you want to be going right now. You did it yesterday with the camera patch, you're doing it now with DX9. |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:04:34 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:"We would like to assure the Mac community that we are aware that the current client is DirectX 9 only. This is something we have been discussing internally and we are investigating solutions."
Care to supply more details?
I'm afraid we have nothing further to share currently. We are just increasing the messaging around Direct 9 deprecation to give people time to migrate.
CCP Vertex | Senior Development Producer | @CCP_Vertex
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:06:21 -
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Joia Crenca wrote:I guess folks had best speak up. This would also be a good time for the CSM to check in with folks as well. Is EVE soon going to become unavailable to Mac, Linux and older PCs?
CCP has been paring down parts of the game that someone deems 'extraneous' such as world building, lore and such. Are a percentage of players and subscriptions also going to be deemed unnecessary?
EVE on the Mac is not something we are planning to change, we've been investing resources recently to improve the Mac experience under the Wine wrapper and will continue down that road.
CCP Vertex | Senior Development Producer | @CCP_Vertex
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:10:14 -
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Dominous Nolen wrote:Sensei Meelia wrote:Typical, after getting rid of the crap that was Windows 10 and moving to linux, CCP comes up with this bullshit, what next?
EVE-ONLINE free to play? Right?! I was just going to get my linux install going and now this... *grumbles* Also what about this? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6503916
I would refer to the top part of CCP Snorlax's comment
Dominous Nolen wrote:Note that this does in no way suggest that CCP is officially supporting Linux - this is just something I've been working on as a side project, and basically comes out of the work I've done for adding Wine support to the launcher for Mac.
CCP Vertex | Senior Development Producer | @CCP_Vertex
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:11:01 -
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Arrakis Askiras wrote:Dominous Nolen wrote:So for those of us who play on older hardware, we're **** outta luck eh? Thanks CCP. G-FING-G
Not just people with old hardware. Got a spanking new ATI/AMD graphics card (well, not spanking new but almost: R9 390) and with DX11 I had frequent crashes which caused me to lose two ships (a Proteus and a cheap frig). Since I've switched to DX9 I've had no crashes. Apparently I'm not the only one with that problem. It's nice that CCP intends to move forwards but please make sure that everything works on the 'new' API before you switch old the more stable legacy mode.
Have you filed bug reports on the crashes?
CCP Vertex | Senior Development Producer | @CCP_Vertex
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:12:04 -
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Dominous Nolen wrote:Drabbin Mishi wrote:I believe that the Overwolf overlay does not support EVE with DX11, only DX9. I've had weird flickering issues with it in Dx11, so I just gave up on it.
Please switch back and file a bug report so we can get your logs, then reply here the reportID so we can take a look.
CCP Vertex | Senior Development Producer | @CCP_Vertex
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 18:14:28 -
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NinjaTurtle wrote:Call me old fashioned, but if you guys make changes that affect (read: alienate) portions of your player base, it's good form to have solutions to those issues before you make the aforementioned changes. I completely understand the standpoint of investing development into a dated API but basically telling portions of your player base to screw off isn't the way you want to be going right now. You did it yesterday with the camera patch, you're doing it now with DX9.
That is exactly why we're messaging our intentions with NO firm date of the change, we want to hear of any remaining issues so we can resolve them ahead of time.
CCP Vertex | Senior Development Producer | @CCP_Vertex
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Arrek Lemmont
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.06.01 19:08:52 -
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EVE itself runs fine for me with DirectX11 but the Mumble overlay won't, so I have to play EVE in DirectX9.
Is CCP working with the Mumble developers to sort out what's going on with Mumble and EVE and DX11? |
elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.01 19:22:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:"We would like to assure the Mac community that we are aware that the current client is DirectX 9 only. This is something we have been discussing internally and we are investigating solutions."
Care to supply more details? I'm afraid we have nothing further to share currently. We are just increasing the messaging around Direct 9 deprecation to give people time to migrate.
What do you mean "migrate"? I know from before my move to Linux that the hardware does run dx11 just fine with all the fancy shield bubble and hit effects.
Just the software wasn't able to catch up. Vulcan on the other hand will even run on my new cellphone.
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We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
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Dierdra Vaal
Interstellar Stargate Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.06.01 19:43:24 -
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As a change from all the people gaming on ancient PCs or non gaming OSes, is CCP currently exploring DX12 support?
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Director Emeritus at EVE University
CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman
Evesterdam organiser and CSM Vote Match founder
Co-Author of the Galactic Party Planning Guide
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DeODokktor
Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
44
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Posted - 2016.06.01 19:49:18 -
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My settings page does not look like that.
http://i.imgur.com/oTLfKkz.png?1 |
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