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Milena Marich
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter IAC stations in Catch remain open to the public as IAC runs NRDS, Not Red Don't SHoot
Please feel Free to stop by.
Interesting. Do you guys have a public channel?
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Raid
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:04:00 -
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More meat for the grinder?
Anyone who uses those stations will only make enemies and lose many many ships.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:04:00 -
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ISS didn't surrender, they just infiltrated goonswarm...
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Zoltaris
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zoltaris on 01/03/2007 00:11:42
Just an idea like that, but, due to the limit of 200 corp standing, it wouldn't be possible to set standing to everyone who want to be friendly while at the same time keeping lots of corps at negative standings
So, it might be a good thing that many small corporation join under the same banner, maybe something like "NAC" (Non-Aligned Corps) and might not be a real alliance as such, but just a bunch of small corps that wants to get some standings where it wouln't be possible otherwise
Btw, this idea is from me, don't flame my alliance or the south coalition about it -----
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Blitter
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Blitter on 01/03/2007 00:13:10 Doesnt really help, as you have to set Corp/Corp standings for docking rights. The real answer is CCP needs to remove the artificial cap on corp/corp standings. Hopefully we'll free up enough slots to accomodate everyone who wants to join us.
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Slayton Ford
Caldari Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zoltaris Just an idea like that, but, due to the limit of 200 corp standing, it wouldn't be possible to set standing to everyone who want to be friendly while at the same time keeping lots of corps at negative standings
So, it might be a good thing that many small corporation join under the same banner, maybe something like "NAC" (Non-Aligned Corps) and wouldn't really be a real alliance as such, but just a bunch of small corps that wants to get some standings where it wouln't be possible otherwise
Btw, this idea is from me, don't flame my alliance of the south coalition about it
Actually, how about naming it the League of Non-Aligned Worlds...(dang I miss Babylon 5).
But on the flip-side, this will make it much easier for Privateers to declare war them.
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Armois Delgato
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:24:00 -
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I thank you for giving me a new purpose in EVE. I wish to see your Infinite NAP Zone Eliminated in the chaos it rightfully deserves to collapse in. Your "new" order is a pathetic excuse to maintain NAPs with half of the map.
See you in space, chummers.
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IlIlIlIlIlIlIl
Hos B4 Bros
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Armois Delgato I thank you for giving me a new purpose in EVE. I wish to see your Infinite NAP Zone Eliminated in the chaos it rightfully deserves to collapse in. Your "new" order is a pathetic excuse to maintain NAPs with half of the map.
See you in space, chummers.
You forgot about 10 and MOAR TARGETS to signify the amount of "pwn" your target painters will deliver
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Marko Zhang
Destructive Flatulence
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:39:00 -
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Good stuff, much respect GS/TCF/etc. One question, will Delve be under the same rules eventually?
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Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:41:00 -
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There is an expression we use in Tyrell:
"Goon farming"
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Grimpak
Gallente Twisted Attitude Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:42:00 -
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FYI, when I read the op, I thought someone necro'ed a CFS tread
...hope it works tho -------
Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
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Khayman33
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:42:00 -
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Wonderfull stuff , congrazt guys o7 :)
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Zell
Caldari The Black Raptors
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:48:00 -
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ROFL
This worked soooo well for big blue, a multi-billion isk conglomerate of experienced industrial market gurus.
Im sure goons, a muulti-billion debted nooblets will have no problems "running" such an enterprise
/re: stick to game card sales....
and let the miner/ratter ganking begin!
Ginger Magician is just a nublet. I've met more people ingame that have laughed about him, than anyone else in Eve.
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.03.01 00:52:00 -
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I was speaking to some Goon friends about this, and its important to understand the context to understand the concept.
Remedial , and many of the swarm directors identify as economic 'libertarians'. The swarms always operated mostly on the concept of low tax, and low market interference, with assistance for new players and the ever important cap ship pilots. When the swarm needs money, it just asks for its members assistance, and the bees pull out the wallets. At times of war, other corps do silly stuff like put on 100% tax, whilst the swarm drops its tax rate. After a bit of time in the meat grinder, the other corps end up with broke pilots, and the goon pilots can still afford battleships because they are not being gouged by the corp.
So the swarm would like to show the universe this is a good idea.
Now, one could presupose a comparison to ISS here, because well thats what ISS claimed to do, but lets look at the difference. First off the goons dont pretend to be neutral. If your hostile, or if your a threat, you get podded. Folks may not like that, but its a security measure, and frankly its smart politics. Secondly, although the goons are pretty adept at carebearing, and via sheer numbers can turn even the deadest area into a fantastic market, they are primarily pvp-ers , so it makes sense to 'outsource' the market in a way thats mutually benificial to everyone on the 'light side of the force'.
I'd suppose the pro-bob forces wont like this. Im not surprised, an economically healthy opponent wont be in the interests of the old order hegemony.
For the rest of the universe, I think the myth of 'goons want to destroy the community' should now be considered roundly disproven.
And yes Im biased, this provides alot of oportunitys for baby corps like Noobwaffe to find an active place in 0.0.
gg goons.
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.01 01:02:00 -
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This will work out since 90% of TCF and GS's allies are already in the area fighting LV; if you're thinking SP and WC are gonna turn into the new Omist then you're in for a surprise. - http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/Jameswsig.jpg WeComeInPeace Video
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Smokemon
Amarr No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.01 01:47:00 -
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Suggestion for the small corps that want to operate in GS/TCF FTZ space...
Perhaps you could convince them to create a "Friends Alliance" that all the small corps could join and just have the alliance set to +5 as a whole.
A GS or TCF alt could CEO the alliance to make sure that only the corps they approve of are in the alliance and have complete control over membership. ---------------------------------------- -Proud member of No Quarter
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Relaed
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Posted - 2007.03.01 01:49:00 -
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Yes, free fire....I mean trade zone for all you care bears. 8-) We will help you carry all that loot...back to my place. 8-)
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prathe
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.01 01:50:00 -
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does this mean i can finnally retrieve the wolf i left in cj-6 like 1yr and a half ago?
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.03.01 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Aaron Static This is all great.. and corps such as ours will benefit greatly. Love your work, goons..
I'd just like to ask about the rules concerned with Goonswarm friends attacking other Goonswarm friends within the FTZ. There are certain alliances who prefer to keep the entire universe neutral, regardless of common enemies.
If you wish to use the FTZ, you must operate within our standings list while within the FTZ. If you want to maintain the 'shoot everyone' policy, you will not be able utilize our space while shooting everyone.
We understand that many of our allies like to shoot everything that moves and likely won't be joining us in the FTZ, but they're welcome to join in the carebearing if they so desire and don't shoot anyone on our standings list while enjoying our space.
most excellent.
two more questions... Current tenants are restricted from ratting in outpost systems, will this rule remain?
And what does goonswarm plan to do about the ever-increasing price of burkeys in Scalding Pass? Is it possible to reduce Rem's intake of them so supply can catch up to demand?
tia
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Zakalwe
Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.01 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Zakalwe on 01/03/2007 01:58:57
Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 28/02/2007 22:17:46
As of today, 1st of March, Goonswarm stations in Scalding Pass as well as Tau Ceti Federation Stations in Wicked Creek [... bla bla bla...]
And RED ALLIANCE do not join you in this WONDERFUL project ?
Hmmm... not in the name of my Corp/Alliance
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BobGhengisKhan
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.01 02:01:00 -
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CFS v.2.0 anyone?
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FatKao
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.01 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Smokemon Suggestion for the small corps that want to operate in GS/TCF FTZ space...
Perhaps you could convince them to create a "Friends Alliance" that all the small corps could join and just have the alliance set to +5 as a whole.
A GS or TCF alt could CEO the alliance to make sure that only the corps they approve of are in the alliance and have complete control over membership.
Unfortunatly you need to set corp->corp standings from the corp who actually owns the station to give docking rights. A FTZ alliance would make setting blues easier but it would not give them docking rights at the FTZ stations.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.01 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: maarud Translated: Hi, we're opening out gates to a lot of corps and alliances in eve to come and rat, mine and generally carebear in our space. So all pirate and general pvp corps are welcome to come pwn them and give us one more thing to worry about.
OK
And this is bad why?
Most 0.0 entities welcome things to shoot in their space.
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition. |
Karrimdra
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.01 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tetsujin
Originally by: LikYum
2) Right of Refusal : If a GoonSwarm member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply. Can you claify this please, I saw an earlier document that specifically stated "If a GoonSwarm fleet member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply." Which did make some kind of sense i guess, but any old muppet seeing a good spawn/rock and wanting it every time will get old real fast imho.
It was a correction of a typo. Originally the statement said "If a Goonfleet member...". Goonfleet is a corporation, Goonswarm is an alliance. The intention is to state that any member of Goonswarm has the right to ask you to leave the system/asteroid belt/whathaveyou on the grounds that they are responsible for the defense of their territories thus have the right to profit from the contents of those territories above anyone else.
So what you really want, is for people to come in, start chaining the belts for you, then come in when its done even while they pay ref taxes (to keep your pos'es running), pay for production fee's (to keep your pses running) and use the market which, if you've done it right will be good and make your isk, to keep your posses running. Anyone else see a pattern here? GS in need of isk to keep their "rapetrain" going, hence pawning off their problem as a "lets be nice to everyone who could already use, and knew about our stations already, but lets recruit yet more nubs in to help keep our fragile bandwagon rolling".
Or is that too cynical a view?
Kudos to IAC who actually seem to have the right mindset for an FTZ (i almost typed FTW :|).
From nothing to something in just one corp! http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0702/KarrimdraSig.jpg |
Nathan Grey
Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.03.01 04:08:00 -
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Look at the Horde, they're progressive! Not at all like the "fuedalistic" alliances they're attacking!
Yeah, sure.
Interesting political move, might get more income through any extra traffic. Like ISS, might last 9-12 months. |
Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.03.01 04:15:00 -
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that's really a nice idea!!!
/me applauds ------
Relaxed corp recruiting |
FatKao
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.01 05:58:00 -
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If any corps would like the full agreement or more information on the program feel free to convo/evemail me or you can join GSFTZ and if a director is around we'll answer questions.
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar Caelestis Caedes
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Posted - 2007.03.01 06:06:00 -
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How is this any better than BoB ruling and having pet alliances?
Is Goonswarm allready gathering pet corps? Will those regions become bluebie carebear land with Goonswarm as police force?
Oh my what a bright future... rofl. Silly coalition.
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Samzatha
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Posted - 2007.03.01 06:07:00 -
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Good Idea. Will work really well except for people buying everything of 1 type and then reselling it at a higher price... B*@$^%ds
Then another allaince will get jealous that you built the first titan and come and make a ghost town of your stations.
ASCN had the best 0 space market. I hope you can do better.
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Osidax
Caldari Paradise Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.01 06:08:00 -
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Good Idea. Will work really well except for people buying everything of 1 type and then reselling it at a higher price... B*@$^%ds
Then another allaince will get jealous that you built the first titan and come and make a ghost town of your stations.
ASCN had the best 0 space market. I hope you can do better.
Ah posting with you alt FTW!
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