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Silas Ehlonite
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.06.11 03:22:35 -
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I just read this news report on Galnet about CONCORD issuing a license to SCOPE news to be an independent operator outside of Gallente control. While I find the move interesting and wonder what it will mean for the future of news broadcasting in New Eden, I do find the fact that Lina Ambre and SCOPE are so chummy with CONCORD to be more than a little puzzling and concerning.
It was just a little over one year ago that CONCORD's DED arrested Lina Ambre and Gaunia Octeyncaere for "questioning under Section 6 of the Interstellar Corporate Espionage Act." (See Galnet news sources linked below.) The DED arrested them in a deliberate attempt to silence their reporting through intimidation. This was a gross freedom of speech violation that was widely protested by capsuleers at the time.
DED STATEMENT: HILEN TUKOSS BROADCAST
DED CONTINUES SCOPE & EIFYR QUESTIONING DESPITE CAPSULEER PROTEST
DED CONFIRMS AGE OF TUKOSS FOOTAGE, RELEASES DETAINEES
I am shocked that Lina Ambre even accepted this award from CONCORD, and I am stunned that she didn't take this opportunity to speak out about speech abuses against reporters by CONCORD. In the YC117-05-15 article announcing that the reporters had been released, the article states that the reporters "have been released without charge and continue to assist with the Inner Circle investigation." Ambre not speaking out against CONCORD abuses seems to be out of character for any reporter, much less for the actual target of said abuses. What does this incident say about just how independent and honest SCOPE news will be in the future? Can we trust them to honestly and fairly report news, or do we have to worry that SCOPE and CONCORD have cut deals to make this licensing arrangement work, or that Ambre is still being intimidated by CONCORD to this day?
This may be nothing more than simple paranoia, but I feel like these are questions that we should be asking. Especially as SCOPE moves to take over more of the share of reporting that we count on.
Templar Lieutenant Silas Ehlonite
DED Public Capsuleer Datasheet
Just another traveler seeking further light.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Black Parable
1923
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Posted - 2016.06.11 04:14:56 -
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Silas Ehlonite wrote: This was a gross freedom of speech violation that was widely protested by capsuleers at the time.
There is a difference between CONCORD having a mandate to protect and maintain Interstellar communication networks, and protecting freedom of speech.
One it is obligated to do, and the other it is not.
I never knew you were close personal friends or family with Lina Ambre to know what is and isn't out of character for her, as a reporter or otherwise, either.
But yeah, I'm sure all the sheeple will wake up now thanks to your post.
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Karina Ivanovich
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
144
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Posted - 2016.06.11 06:14:53 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Silas Ehlonite wrote: This was a gross freedom of speech violation that was widely protested by capsuleers at the time. There is a difference between CONCORD having a mandate to protect and maintain Interstellar communication networks, and protecting freedom of speech. One it is obligated to do, and the other it is not. I never knew you were close personal friends or family with Lina Ambre to know what is and isn't out of character for her, as a reporter or otherwise, either. But yeah, I'm sure all the sheeple will wake up now thanks to your post.
Baaaa.
Some call me insane. If the universe is sane, then I embrace that label.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1914
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Posted - 2016.06.11 06:27:15 -
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Not sure what are you shocked about, journalism is lacking this days as always especially mainstream one it's mostly PR. Corporate media entities are business first journalism second.
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Muck Raker
Gutter Press
700
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Posted - 2016.06.11 08:25:06 -
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Gutter Press would like to take this opportunity to welcome The Scope to the ranks of non-government owned media, and invites the Scope to become one of our subsidiaries.
Sincerely,
M. Raker, CEO, Gutter Press Interstellar Media Corporation
Rumours, Wars, Rumours of Wars, Wars of Rumours!
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
936
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Posted - 2016.06.11 13:44:31 -
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This turn of events should come as no surprise.
CONCORD could not control the Scope as a Federation news agency. When the Scope started sticking their nose where it didn't belong, the reporters were held until an "understanding" was reached.
Holding them was the stick, giving them "independence" is the carrot. It's the reward for being a good little propaganda machine for CONCORD interests. Gutter Press or TL;DR are far more likely to bring us unbiased news than the Scope will.
But I'm the criminal...
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Silas Ehlonite
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2016.06.11 23:09:12 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:This turn of events should come as no surprise.
CONCORD could not control the Scope as a Federation news agency. When the Scope started sticking their nose where it didn't belong, the reporters were held until an "understanding" was reached.
Holding them was the stick, giving them "independence" is the carrot. It's the reward for being a good little propaganda machine for CONCORD interests. Gutter Press or TL;DR are far more likely to bring us unbiased news than the Scope will.
But I'm the criminal... This is exactly what it feels like. SCOPE has buckled under the weight of CONCORD intimidation.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: There is a difference between CONCORD having a mandate to protect and maintain Interstellar communication networks, and protecting freedom of speech.
One it is obligated to do, and the other it is not.
Now, I may be rallying the sheeple to wake up, but what use is the "CONCORD Freedom of Press legislation" mentioned in the article if CONCORD is free to silence the press when they wish? CONCORD is already an almost all powerful entity that can destroy any capsuleer vessel at any time while we have no means to defend ourselves. At the moment CONCORD only destroys so called pirates, but if they are willing to bully and strong arm legally protected reporters, who says that they won't turn their guns on innocent capsuleers? We are just supposed to trust that CONCORD will act benevolently? After seeing what they did in this instance, I am having a hard time viewing them in the same light as before.
Templar Lieutenant Silas Ehlonite
DED Public Capsuleer Datasheet
Just another traveler seeking further light.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
4298
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Posted - 2016.06.11 23:12:30 -
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Muck Raker wrote:Gutter Press would like to take this opportunity to welcome The Scope to the ranks of non-government owned media, and invites the Scope to become one of our subsidiaries.
Sincerely,
M. Raker, CEO, Gutter Press Interstellar Media Corporation
I, um... I'm not sure exactly how much the Scope is worth, but I'm pretty sure that transaction might go the other way round.
AKA Hambone
Author of The Deathworlders
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3287
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Posted - 2016.06.12 08:10:28 -
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Or one could consider the truly shocking possibility.... That Concord were acting properly and legally when they detained Lina. And that Lina acted appropriately as an innocent, person, co-operated, and then was released as was also appropriate.....
It's shocking I know to think that there can be any sort of legal process or accountability that actually is legitimate, especially to independent capsuleers who are so used to being god that they often don't even think about their own ship crews, let alone the crews of the ships they engage.
But the simplest explanation is often correct, and in this case the simple explanation is Scope & Lina haven't protested because there is nothing to protest about, there was no abuse of power just correct action, and there was no mistreatment. |
Silas Ehlonite
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2016.06.12 10:15:27 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Or one could consider the truly shocking possibility.... That Concord were acting properly and legally when they detained Lina. And that Lina acted appropriately as an innocent, person, co-operated, and then was released as was also appropriate.....
It's shocking I know to think that there can be any sort of legal process or accountability that actually is legitimate, especially to independent capsuleers who are so used to being god that they often don't even think about their own ship crews, let alone the crews of the ships they engage.
But the simplest explanation is often correct, and in this case the simple explanation is Scope & Lina haven't protested because there is nothing to protest about, there was no abuse of power just correct action, and there was no mistreatment.
There doesn't have to be mistreatment for there to be intimidation. I never claimed that CONCORD tortured Lina and Gaunia. The SCOPE broadcast was a legitimate news story, something the press is allowed to do under CONCORDs own Freedom of Press legislation. CONCORD responded to the story by detaining the reporter and the production manager for the story. Are you going to honestly say that this doesn't have a chilling effect on the freedom of the press? Do you really think that the next time that a reporter has a story that might paint CONCORD in a negative light, that reporter won't think hard about not filing the report out of fear that CONCORD might strike out at them for just doing reporting the truth?
I am not against proper legal process and accountability. If crimes were committed, then they should be investigated. But what happened here appears to be simple intimidation hiding behind quasi-legal procedure. Lina and Gaunia were held without charges for almost 7 days. If CONCORD had actually been serious about prosecuting a crime under the Interstellar Corporate Espionage (ICE) Act, Lina and Gaunia, as well as The SCOPE, and Eifyr & Co would have been charged and prosecuted. Instead, the reporters were released and things were swept under the rug after the message that reporters shouldn't cross CONCORD was delivered.
One other thing. While I was rereading the articles about this incident, I noticed that there was an unidentified employee of Eifyr & Co. that was not released with Lina and Gaunia. Has anyone heard anything more about this person? Have they been released or were charges ever filed against them? This is possibly even more troubling than the intimidation of the press. We need to know what happened to this person. I am sending a message to Captain Marshal Sirdan xer Qosh, Holy Amarr's representative to CONCORD, asking that an inquiry into the status of this unidentified prisoner be initiated. I ask all of you to check your resources to see if you can track down news of what happened to this individual.
Templar Lieutenant Silas Ehlonite
Public Capsuleer Datasheet
Just another traveler seeking further light.
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
406
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Posted - 2016.06.12 14:26:13 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Or one could consider the truly shocking possibility.... That Concord were acting properly and legally when they detained Lina. And that Lina acted appropriately as an innocent, person, co-operated, and then was released as was also appropriate.....
It's shocking I know to think that there can be any sort of legal process or accountability that actually is legitimate, especially to independent capsuleers who are so used to being god that they often don't even think about their own ship crews, let alone the crews of the ships they engage. Yeah, right, tell that to my colleagues who nearly got multi-billion bounties on their heads as if they were some thugs.
I wish Fatal's reemergence would produce as much activity from them.
Silas Ehlonite wrote: One other thing. While I was rereading the articles about this incident, I noticed that there was an unidentified employee of Eifyr & Co. that was not released with Lina and Gaunia. Has anyone heard anything more about this person? Have they been released or were charges ever filed against them?
The guy's right, we never even got his indentity if I remember correct and call me paranoid but there is a possibility of this guy being a clone of a certain somebody.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Follow us on GalNet!
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2520
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Posted - 2016.06.14 06:21:16 -
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I'm certain that this move will result in no change in The Scope's editorial stance, and that ACN will remain as the cluster's only source of unbiased news.
Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
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Sinjin Mokk
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
949
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Posted - 2016.06.14 13:58:27 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:I'm certain that this move will result in no change in The Scope's editorial stance, and that ACN will remain as the cluster's only source of unbiased news.
How do you even put both statements in the same sentence with a straight face?
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Ophelia Kiselouvre
Both Hands on the Keyboard at All Times
9
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Posted - 2016.06.14 14:56:27 -
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Pretty easily.
Amarrians don't smile, they just add a handful more wrinkles to the thousands already present.
Hi~~~GÖÑ
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2521
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Posted - 2016.06.15 06:17:08 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:I'm certain that this move will result in no change in The Scope's editorial stance, and that ACN will remain as the cluster's only source of unbiased news. How do you even put both statements in the same sentence with a straight face? It's easy to keep a straight face when telling the truth.
Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
2186
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Posted - 2016.06.15 06:38:46 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:I'm certain that this move will result in no change in The Scope's editorial stance, and that ACN will remain as the cluster's only source of unbiased news. You know that lying is a sin, right?
Saying ACN is unbiased is like saying water is dry.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2523
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Posted - 2016.06.15 17:20:54 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:I'm certain that this move will result in no change in The Scope's editorial stance, and that ACN will remain as the cluster's only source of unbiased news. You know that lying is a sin, right?
Yes, and that's why you can trust ACN.
Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
12692
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Posted - 2016.06.20 07:34:11 -
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Yes, I think they are now collaborating with CONCORD. Maybe CONCORD have something on them, to shut their mouth, maybe they were bribed, i think SCOPE businesses are sometimes more shady than its apparent.
I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá
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Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
24
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Posted - 2016.06.21 16:50:54 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:I'm certain that this move will result in no change in The Scope's editorial stance, and that ACN will remain as the cluster's only source of unbiased news. You know that lying is a sin, right? Yes, and that's why you can trust ACN. Yea and Diana Kim is not a racist is equally true |
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