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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.12.22 12:16:00 -
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Pax Thar wrote:The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente.
Well duh, why do you think she's hiding away in the Amarr contested zone? Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Lyn Farel
Extropian Technologies
53
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Posted - 2011.12.22 13:00:00 -
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Pax Thar wrote:The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente. We all watch the holoreels and look at the statistics and can see how badly the Caldari are doing on their own front, so one has to ask the question, why come here? The answer is obvious.
Maybe, or maybe not. Speculation.
Even if it was not the Republic that did it, when the Elders and Thukkers (that are revered Minmtar to my knowledge) choosed to strike CONCORD central HQ in Yulai, they indirectly choosed to threaten all the other 3 empires, and even their own. That also concerns the Caldari.
But yes, I am not sure either what they are doing here. |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
205
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Posted - 2011.12.22 13:16:00 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Even if it was not the Republic that did it, when the Elders and Thukkers (that are revered Minmtar to my knowledge) choosed to strike CONCORD central HQ in Yulai, they indirectly choosed to threaten all the other 3 empires, and even their own. That also concerns the Caldari.
If anything the Caldari should be thankful for what happened at Yulai, if you consider what it allowed them to achieve in the aftermath. |

TomHorn
Horn and Brothers
7
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Posted - 2011.12.22 14:51:00 -
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Came accross battle report and video of the Last Stand Of Eran Mintor.
He went down fighting Honourably and bravely, trying to defend a customs office against the terrorist hoards.
http://www.gamerchick.net/2011/12/amarr-forfeit-their-capitals.html |

Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2011.12.22 15:24:00 -
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Pax Thar wrote:The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente. We all watch the holoreels and look at the statistics and can see how badly the Caldari are doing on their own front, so one has to ask the question, why come here? The answer is obvious. Since you never backed or took back your words about me being mercenary, hereby I claim my right to call you liar and blabbermouth. Considering your next question, I will answer you, Mr.Liar, but still I would prefer you keeping with topic. We came here back in the days when we completely crushed gallente resistance and were keeping them docked, while minmatar space was crowded with numerous enemies of the State. Unfortunately, now frogs came out of their hiding holes and our hands are bound here. I don't think it would be wise now to scatter our forces around the cluster before we deal with minmatar threats. Anyway, I will leave any decisions for superiors, I will follow orders and will fight where I am needed. |

Ava Starfire
Teraa Matar
115
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Posted - 2011.12.22 15:43:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pax Thar wrote:The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente. We all watch the holoreels and look at the statistics and can see how badly the Caldari are doing on their own front, so one has to ask the question, why come here? The answer is obvious. Since you never backed or took back your words about me being mercenary, hereby I claim my right to call you liar and blabbermouth. Considering your next question, I will answer you, Mr.Liar, but still I would prefer you keeping with topic. We came here back in the days when we completely crushed gallente resistance and were keeping them docked, while minmatar space was crowded with numerous enemies of the State. Unfortunately, now frogs came out of their hiding holes and our hands are bound here. I don't think it would be wise now to scatter our forces around the cluster before we deal with minmatar threats. Anyway, I will leave any decisions for superiors, I will follow orders and will fight where I am needed.
Apparently Wolfsbrigade is desperate enough now to resort to suicide tactics. You must be a loyal bunch.
Seriously. Smartbombing battleships? That is so YC 109.
Was this just your attempt to liquidate heavy assets in preparation for a move back to the war that is actually being fought, you know, for your home and people? Cause, you know, coming here to fight us... well, for a warrior to abandon their home, deepest shame. |

Pax Thar
Teraa Matar
18
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Posted - 2011.12.22 15:53:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pax Thar wrote:The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente. We all watch the holoreels and look at the statistics and can see how badly the Caldari are doing on their own front, so one has to ask the question, why come here? The answer is obvious. Since you never backed or took back your words about me being mercenary, hereby I claim my right to call you liar and blabbermouth. Considering your next question, I will answer you, Mr.Liar, but still I would prefer you keeping with topic. We came here back in the days when we completely crushed gallente resistance and were keeping them docked, while minmatar space was crowded with numerous enemies of the State. Unfortunately, now frogs came out of their hiding holes and our hands are bound here. I don't think it would be wise now to scatter our forces around the cluster before we deal with minmatar threats. Anyway, I will leave any decisions for superiors, I will follow orders and will fight where I am needed.
I usualy ignore excuses and obvious goading, you'll have to forgive me. I also ignore childish name calling so forgive me once more if I donnt respond to your satisfaction.
I would like to point out that you have made excuses for everything annd not said a single thing that has any worth other than you follow orders. You should just leave it at that instead of trying to jusify your corps cowering here under the pretense that we are some sort of menace. See above statements about Gallente ect ect. |

Kalaratiri
Teraa Matar
44
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Posted - 2011.12.22 16:02:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pax Thar wrote:The Caldari are only enemy of the Minmatar through their Amarr allies. And Im still not sure what your fighting for, here in Minmatar space, since all the things you mentioned are back in the State where your own Militia is currently getting their behinds handed to them by the Gallente. We all watch the holoreels and look at the statistics and can see how badly the Caldari are doing on their own front, so one has to ask the question, why come here? The answer is obvious. Since you never backed or took back your words about me being mercenary, hereby I claim my right to call you liar and blabbermouth. Considering your next question, I will answer you, Mr.Liar, but still I would prefer you keeping with topic. We came here back in the days when we completely crushed gallente resistance and were keeping them docked, while minmatar space was crowded with numerous enemies of the State. Unfortunately, now frogs came out of their hiding holes and our hands are bound here. I don't think it would be wise now to scatter our forces around the cluster before we deal with minmatar threats. Anyway, I will leave any decisions for superiors, I will follow orders and will fight where I am needed.
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Wait wait wait..
You do realize that there are far more Caldari militia in tha minmatar/amarr warzone, than there are minmatar in the caldari/gallente one? We minmatar have no interest in you. You are enemies by proxy, that is all. You are attacking us not the other way around. So, despite saying you don't want a war on two fronts, you... started one. Which you are now losing. Wonderful tactical ability there.
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Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2011.12.22 16:11:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:
Apparently Wolfsbrigade is desperate enough now to resort to suicide tactics. You must be a loyal bunch.
Seriously. Smartbombing battleships? That is so YC 109.
Was this just your attempt to liquidate heavy assets in preparation for a move back to the war that is actually being fought, you know, for your home and people? Cause, you know, coming here to fight us... well, for a warrior to abandon their home, deepest shame.
1. Unrelated and all out of sudden 2. Offtopic 3. Personal attack on corporation
If you want to get answer on your question, try to make new topic.
I don't even know, why did I paid attention to... this... |

Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2011.12.22 16:17:00 -
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Kalaratiri wrote: Wait wait wait..
You do realize that there are far more Caldari militia in tha minmatar/amarr warzone, than there are minmatar in the caldari/gallente one? We minmatar have no interest in you. You are enemies by proxy, that is all. You are attacking us not the other way around. So, despite saying you don't want a war on two fronts, you... started one. Which you are now losing. Wonderful tactical ability there.
War on two fronts has started long ago. I didn't ever say I don't want a war on two fronts, please read carefully what have you emphasized in my reply. I can clarify this to you: the point is in keeping concentration of forces to deal with enemies step-by-step. |
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Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
55
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Posted - 2011.12.22 16:18:00 -
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Diana Kim is a mewling Statist, a horribly biased observer and if her fighting is like her posting here, a terrible soldier.
Pay her no mind, she's quite mad. If she had any brains at all she'd be back in Caldari space fighting the FDU but in that case she would, you know, actually have to take some action.  What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |

Arkady Sadik
Gradient Electus Matari
293
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Posted - 2011.12.22 16:41:00 -
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Members of Gradient are reminded that, while we are free to express our opinions in public and debates can lead to high emotions, we do try to avoid smack talk.
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Kalaratiri
Teraa Matar
46
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Posted - 2011.12.22 17:27:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Kalaratiri wrote: Wait wait wait..
You do realize that there are far more Caldari militia in tha minmatar/amarr warzone, than there are minmatar in the caldari/gallente one? We minmatar have no interest in you. You are enemies by proxy, that is all. You are attacking us not the other way around. So, despite saying you don't want a war on two fronts, you... started one. Which you are now losing. Wonderful tactical ability there.
War on two fronts has started long ago. I didn't ever say I don't want a war on two fronts, please read carefully what have you emphasized in my reply. I can clarify this to you: the point is in keeping concentration of forces to deal with enemies step-by-step.
Fair enough, but can you tell me why we are enemies? And for the record, I do not count "Because you help the gallente!! rage rage" as a good enough answer. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
367
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Posted - 2011.12.22 17:37:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Diana Kim is a mewling Statist, a horribly biased observer and if her fighting is like her posting here, a terrible soldier.
You don't need to observe her posting to work out her skill at fighting  Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2011.12.22 17:37:00 -
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Because you help the gallente!! rage rage
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
208
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Posted - 2011.12.22 17:50:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Because you help the gallente!! rage rage
Actually if anything the Elder Fleet/Thukker attack on Yulai gave the Caldari the perfect window of opportunity to invade Luminaire and secure Caldari Prime.
Remind me who they help again? |

Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2011.12.22 17:51:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Diana Kim is a mewling Statist, a horribly biased observer and if her fighting is like her posting here, a terrible soldier. Pay her no mind, she's quite mad. If she had any brains at all she'd be back in Caldari space fighting the FDU but in that case she would, you know, actually have to take some action. 
*comes into talking room* *scratches head* *activates computer terminal* *looks for name 'Anabella Rella' in battle reports* *reads with blank face* Minmatards! *spits* *walks away* *slams the door* |

Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2011.12.22 17:53:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Because you help the gallente!! rage rage
Actually if anything the Elder Fleet/Thukker attack on Yulai gave the Caldari the perfect window of opportunity to invade Luminaire and secure Caldari Prime. Remind me who they help again?
Sorry, this reply was for Kalaratiri, sorry again not to mention this, it's not for discussion  |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
208
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Posted - 2011.12.22 18:00:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Because you help the gallente!! rage rage
Actually if anything the Elder Fleet/Thukker attack on Yulai gave the Caldari the perfect window of opportunity to invade Luminaire and secure Caldari Prime. Remind me who they help again? Sorry, this reply was for Kalaratiri, sorry again not to mention this, it's not for discussion 
Yes, gods forbid someone challenges you with a counter argument to your way of thinking.
Also after the Seyllin incident, the Amarr Empire offered the Gallente aid: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2860&tid=4
"THEY HELP TEH GALLENTE!!!!1111oneoneone...
See how ridiculous this train of thought gets? |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
255
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Posted - 2011.12.22 19:55:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Because you help the gallente!! rage rage
Actually if anything the Elder Fleet/Thukker attack on Yulai gave the Caldari the perfect window of opportunity to invade Luminaire and secure Caldari Prime. Remind me who they help again? Sorry, this reply was for Kalaratiri, sorry again not to mention this, it's not for discussion  Yes, gods forbid someone challenges you with a counter argument to your way of thinking. Also after the Seyllin incident, the Amarr Empire offered the Gallente aid: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2860&tid=4"THEY HELP TEH GALLENTE!!!!1111oneoneone... See how ridiculous this train of thought gets?
Thats politics
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Conventia Underking
Teraa Matar
68
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Posted - 2011.12.22 22:22:00 -
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Raphael Saint wrote:Witch? No. Hilarious? Yes. It should have served as a stark reminder of what you are now, instead of something to be "celebrated." Eran did more for the humane treatment of slaves while within the Empire than you'll ever be able to accomplsih from without.
I never saw him do anything for the humane treatment of slaves. I just think you are bitter because I switched sides and it's easy to be bitter against people you consider to be your enemy.
Raphael Saint wrote:Are you really so utterly helpless that you cannot do anything on your own and must appeal to God to do anything?
Everything that I do is for God and through His Will. For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!
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Shalee Lianne
Imperial Outlaws
36
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Posted - 2011.12.23 03:46:00 -
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I would be interested to know if you've actually done anything of importance since your betrayal, Miss Underking. Merely becoming a traitor to your people and flying under a terrorist banner means little in the grand scheme of things. You seem to preach an awful lot, but have you actually free'd any slaves? Have you done anything noteworthy for your cause? Consider me curious. http://amarrian.blogspot.com/ -a~ Roleplay blog.http://sovereigntywars.wordpress.com/ ~ Faction War blog. |

Shalee Lianne
Imperial Outlaws
36
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Posted - 2011.12.23 03:48:00 -
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Also, it is highly heretical to use my God's name to justify your actions. Please refrain from doing so again. http://amarrian.blogspot.com/ -a~ Roleplay blog.http://sovereigntywars.wordpress.com/ ~ Faction War blog. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
368
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Posted - 2011.12.23 07:09:00 -
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Shalee Lianne wrote:I would be interested to know if you've actually done anything of importance since your betrayal, Miss Underking. Merely becoming a traitor to your people and flying under a terrorist banner means little in the grand scheme of things. You seem to preach an awful lot, but have you actually free'd any slaves? Have you done anything noteworthy for your cause? Consider me curious.
Well, I can only speak for myself here, but I think she's managed to do something far more important than destroy a few ships. She's given me, of all people, hope for the Amarrians. Just a scant few days ago she was spouting the same blind, cookie-cutter Amarrian litany that the rest of you are trained to repeat like a performing slaver. Then, all of a sudden, she had a change of heart. She examined one of her beliefs and found it to be incompatible with the rest of her worldview.
She thought for herself.
Very seldom does that happen, but it's a precious thing when it does. If a hardline member of PIE can change her heart, that gives me just the slightest shred of hope for the rest of the Empire.
Shalee Lianne wrote:Also, it is highly heretical to use my God's name to justify your actions. Please refrain from doing so again.
Oh, so it's your God now? I thought God belonged to everyone. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Arkady Sadik
Gradient Electus Matari
294
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Posted - 2011.12.23 08:09:00 -
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The use rights for the name of the nameless God have always been highly contested. |

Lyn Farel
Extropian Technologies
53
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Posted - 2011.12.23 12:19:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote: Thats politics
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Nicoletta Mithra
Ordo Novus Mul-Zatah
15
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:19:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:She thought for herself.
So, for whom else does one think? Contrary to what you seem to believe, thinking is a highly valued good in Amarr culture and it is quite a given that you think for yourself.
Thing is, we value sound and valid thinking, thinking that takes cultural context into account and thinking that has the aim that is proper to the process of thinking: the prime cause, the ultimate end the eternal truth.
that#s not what Ms. Underking is doing here. She sees Vitoc and overreacts. What she does isn't the reasonable thing. She blows it out of proportion. Well, it's her decision. But to go and advertise it as her being the one and only Amarrian using her brain is just ridiculous. |

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
17
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:22:00 -
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Andreus believes in genociding those whose opinions he doesn't like. His opinion is invalid. |

Arkady Sadik
Gradient Electus Matari
295
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Posted - 2011.12.23 14:53:00 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:Andreus believes in genociding those whose opinions he doesn't like. His opinion is invalid. Don't you think that's a bit simplified? He does not like all of my opinions, and he so far hasn't expressed an intent to kill me.
The Amarr have shown repeatedly that they intend to subjugate the rest of the cluster, and the only reason they aren't working more strongly on that is because they currently simply are too weak. The fear that the Amarr will, should they become stronger, simply return to their oppressive imperialism, is quite justified based on historical evidence. Sadly, I do not see the Amarr putting a lot of effort into working against those fears.
I do hope that genocide is not the only answer to the Amarrian question, but I can certainly see why some people would think that it might be necessary. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
370
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:58:00 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:Andreus believes in genociding those whose opinions he doesn't like. His opinion is invalid.
Valerie Valate makes entirely inaccurate statements and deals in excessive absolutes. Her opinions are not neccessarily invalid, but nonetheless probably are. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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