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Haruna Hikikomori
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.21 05:57:45 -
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Log Entry: One Date: 16.21.06
Today I graduated from the Federal Naval Academy and was apparently given a ship. The last few hours are a bit hazy and I can't remember how I got into said ship, but it is registered in my name legally under Gallete law. I awoke in the middle of an asteroid belt floating in a Velator class frigate. It's not much, barely more than a fighter with a warp core, but It is much better than any of the training craft we were stuck with at the academy. There were several low grade smugglers in the asteroid belt (maybe that is why my memories are fuzzy?) and I took them out because CONCORD had issued a bounty on them. I took all three of them out with minimal problems, but I don't think combat is going to be for me.
It may sound strange to say, but mining is the true reason I wanted to become a Capsuleer. My late sister, who was not fortunate enough to have the right gene strains for cloning technology, worked for 30 years before she could afford enough ISK to be able to buy a Venture class Frigate, and she died aboard it with all six of her crew soon after. I on the other hand was lucky. And with the graduation funds given me by the Academy I think that down the road I have a decent shot at setting up a mining operation that will last for some time.
I did some reading and have decided to invest some time in learning how to fly a Retriever class mining barge. I already have a skilled crew lined up as soon as I have the necessary skills in order to fly it. In the meantime a Venture is the logical first step. I expect it is a dangerous place out here so I'm investing some time first into learning how to control some defensive drones. Don't want to be caught completely unawares afterall.
Well, I hope you guys wish me luck! I'll be posting here every few days if anybody is interested in the adventures of a Miner.
Nice meeting you all. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.06.21 11:18:18 -
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Small memory loses are just a side-effect of first clonning process many capsuleers fased and not a big deal. First hours after leaving clonning tube are always messy. The last thing you may remember is the examination table in the lab - and right after that you find yourself jacked into the pod. For a reason.
A few things you should know as a new canned fish. Find your local "Career Agents". Do everything they ask. Listen everything they say. Learn everything you need.
Never leave the dock with something you cannot afford to lose.
Trust no one.
For a new single miner your best bet is Procurer: it's heavy defence will make your life longer. Retriever is for those who know how to stay out of trouble.
Some day you will find out that your choice was not better than your sister's. It was not even yours. Just like your dead sister and everything you call yours doesn't belong to you anymore.
And may be it will be still not too late. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.21 12:28:46 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:Small memory loses are just a side-effect of first clonning process many capsuleers fased and not a big deal. First hours after leaving clonning tube are always messy. The last thing you may remember is the examination table in the lab - and right after that you find yourself jacked into the pod. For a reason.
A few things you should know as a new canned fish. Find your local "Career Agents". Do everything they ask. Listen everything they say. Learn everything you need.
Never leave the dock with something you cannot afford to lose.
Trust no one.
For a new single miner your best bet is Procurer: it's heavy defence will make your life longer. Retriever is for those who know how to stay out of trouble.
Some day you will find out that your choice was not better than your sister's. It was not even yours. Just like your dead sister and everything you call yours doesn't belong to you anymore.
And may be it will be still not too late.
Funny. The last thing *I* remembered before I became a capsuleer was lying on a bed with medical equipment with my clone in a pod looking mighty serene over my head. Next I was conscious I was staring down at my own body on the bed.
Other than that the edgy crap at the end, solid advice.
On the topic of the Venture, the Venture is a relatively recent addition to the mining vessel roster. I can't quite imagine her working her arse off to get into a Venture considering that Ventures had been around for less than five years (need to check databases to confirm). You sure she wasn't working for some other ship?
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Nanako Chosokabe
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.21 13:55:38 -
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Welcome to space Captain Hikikomori.
A good friend of mine who's personal journal I studied for years before entering space myself had a few tips in it for mining. I didn't choose that line of work myself but here are a few for you...
- Most rats are just a nuance in secure space so learn to tank and skip the drones for now - The Venture is a great ship and really fun/profitable when taken into Low Security space...maybe plan ahead. - If you're going to have to ship the ore to a hub yourself, you might want to also train shipping ships. - Mining is all about ISK/hour so you need to be good with your data (hub prices, ore types, etc) - You will quickly realize that other industry rolls pair well with mining (manufacturing)...maybe plan ahead. - Learn to align right away...every time...without exception. - Never AFK mine and
Mining itself is super dry in LowSec but to do it well is a bit of an art. You need to have great focus on both the small picture (which specific rock you are mining) and big picture (what do the markets want).
Any how, I know all this is written countless times elsewhere so I wont bore you more.
Best of luck and don't forget to ask about what you don't know! New Eden can be a cold place but surprisingly there are a lot of great people here too...it just takes a bit of work to find them.
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Yarosara Ruil
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Posted - 2016.06.21 14:10:49 -
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If you are not flying a Procurer, or planning to fly one in the future, you are doing something wrong!
Retriever? Bah! Why be a goldfish in a pond when you can be... A TURTLE! MASSIVE ARMORED JUGGERNAUT! Nobody messes with turtles, I'll have you know. |
Nanako Chosokabe
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.21 14:47:22 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:If you are not flying a Procurer, or planning to fly one in the future, you are doing something wrong!
Retriever? Bah! Why be a goldfish in a pond when you can be... A TURTLE! MASSIVE ARMORED JUGGERNAUT! Nobody messes with turtles, I'll have you know.
IMHO, from what I've read/studied, a Retriever is the best choice IF you plan on primarily mining in 0.8 and above. As you head lower into the security levels then yes, you might want to think about a Procurer but really, if you're going to get exploded then it's going to happen regardless. Mining is all about ISK/hr so the less time spent traveling to-and-from the stating the better.
Study the region and find where the gankers operate...plan accordingly but be flexible. Don't be predictable...and always align...
EDIT I just checked and only 16% of the last 50 Retriever-class barges destroyed were in 0.8 and higher systems. 50% of the destroyed ships were in 0.5->0.7 systems... |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1943
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Posted - 2016.06.21 15:08:40 -
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Orca. You want to shoot for an orca.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Nanako Chosokabe
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.21 15:11:48 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Orca. You want to shoot for an orca.
I second that...My Jita friend loves it as it's so versatile. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1943
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Posted - 2016.06.21 15:15:49 -
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Nanako Chosokabe wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Orca. You want to shoot for an orca. I second that...My Jita friend loves it as it's so versatile. And you can sell the boosts to make money while you're mining to make money! It's a money making, mining machine!
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1256
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Posted - 2016.06.21 15:17:55 -
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For a solo miner I can't imagine a mining boost ship being that helpful, aside from the obvious hauling aspect. Which you can do with a miasmos or a kyros or whatever the ore transport is, faster and I would think relatively safer. Not to mention alot cheaper and less skill intensive. Then again I'm not a miner, I'm just speaking from the other side of the spectrum (those who would possibly shoot at you). |
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Yarosara Ruil
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Posted - 2016.06.21 15:18:19 -
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Nanako Chosokabe wrote:IMHO, from what I've read/studied, a Retriever is the best choice IF you plan on primarily mining in 0.8 and above.
HERESY! BLASPHEMY! YOU SPEAK IN LIES AND SLANDER!
Procurer all the time, every single time!
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TomHorn
Provist Mujahideen Liberation Front
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Posted - 2016.06.21 17:19:55 -
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I hope you have the correct mining licences in order. Otherwise someone is likely to be paying you a visit in the near future. |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
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Posted - 2016.06.21 17:44:40 -
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They're still around? |
TomHorn
Provist Mujahideen Liberation Front
276
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Posted - 2016.06.21 17:55:32 -
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I thought they were Deitra , you saying that has put doubt in my mind. Maybe im out the loop. Been busy crime fighting. |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1256
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Posted - 2016.06.21 17:57:53 -
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TomHorn wrote:I thought they were Deitra , you saying that has put doubt in my mind. Maybe im out the loop. Been busy crime fighting. I hear ya on that one, thought they had some issues in their leadership shortly after those bee guys fell. Honestly I really could be wrong as well. |
Haruna Hikikomori
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.21 19:03:57 -
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Entry: Two Date: 16.21.06
I scraped up enough ISK to finally follow in my sisters footsteps and get myself a Venture. To clear up some confusion, she died three years ago and had only got her ship a year before that. I have been mining in the general vicinity of Dodixie as I was told by a helpful pilot that it is the local trade hub. I have had a few close calls with people asking me for mining permits, but the innate warp core stabilizers in my venture have saved me so far.
Didn't realize you needed a permit to mine rocks out here. But I don't plan on caving to pressure anytime soon. The small crew I hired on for the ship (Catharsis of Two) is preforming well, and we are making a small but pronounced profit on each run. Hammond, my engineer, says that one of the mining laser ls is fluctuating a bit so I will have to take a look at that soon.
Currently I'm focusing on Veldspar mining and getting into the retriever. Some of you have recommended a more survivable hull, but I think that it should be fine since I plan on sticking to relatively high security areas since Veldspar is so widely avaliable. I know that it also has the lowest return per run, but I plan on perfecting the reprocessing skills for it soon after my retriever is well fitted. Besides, somebody has to mine it right?
Well, I'm off to try and upgrade this mining laser, or at least get it patched up. I'll report back again later. |
Sinti Vailatti
Angelis Exploration
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Posted - 2016.06.21 19:25:29 -
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Hi!
I started my career doing mining! I still mine most of my own ores when I'm building something. If that's how ya want to make ISK, don't let anyone tell you it's wrong. Also never, ever buy a "permit."
Drop me a line sometime if you ever need anything. I can tell you about "ninja mining" and how HiSec mining isn't half as fun and profitable as people think.
Fly safe!!
GÇ£Where must we go...we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves?GÇ¥
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
1946
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Posted - 2016.06.21 19:31:34 -
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Jetcan mining = best mining
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.06.21 20:11:07 -
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Choosing a Retriever is your best way to meet CODE soon. These guys may make your life and life of your crew a little more exciting but short.
Veldspar is a space garbage: it's the most common, highly demanded, but still the cheepest ore around. If your ambitions may drive you further than just being a mindless mining drone, put your eye on something more profitable, like ore anomalies or ice belts. Talk to some old miners or find a corp who may take care of ya.
Be carefull with the life you have, 'cause Haruna paid in full to make you live. |
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.06.21 20:47:11 -
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Congratulations on completing your pod training. I always had a good deal of respect for those who choose to become miners. Like, really? You go through all the **** they give you in the program to what? Point lasers at rocks? Of course, since you didn't burn out or go crazy in the past five years, I assume you're made of stern stuff, but that's a special type of mental.
That said, I fly with shield boosters whenever I can, so call me masochistic, but hey, at least I'm feeling *something*.
~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~
GÇ£Sitasutone nabeliwatsa-shogi; Otre Jaitovalte hessami-ettogi useuus sufat. Eika, hakkit garuketsi.GÇ¥
-Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.22 01:10:03 -
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Watch local and if you see anyone carrying the CODE. tag or see a warship drop in on you and approaching your vessel, orbit the rocks to avoid bumping. If you see multiple members of CODE., warp out to a safe place and wait for the storm to blow over.
You will be fine, relatively, if you are vigilant.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Haruna Hikikomori
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:28:50 -
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Entry: Three Date: 16.22.06
I have not lost a ship yet, I'm actually rather proud of myself. I keep getting people asking me for mining permits, and also some advances from soldiers wanting me to join the Federal Defence Force. Is it that strange for someone to just be a miner as their main profession? I'm not in space to make as much ISK as possible or to shoot anybody. Of I never have to kill anybody I'll be perfectly fine slowly depleting asteroids of minerals.
I also keep getting advice about mining other minerals because Veldspar is ISK inefficient. Do you guys even realize how much 1 ISK is!? With several thousand ISK I could retire for a lifetime on a pleasure planet. I don't need exuberant amounts of money to enjoy life. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:41:06 -
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Haruna Hikikomori wrote:I also keep getting advice about mining other minerals because Veldspar is ISK inefficient. Do you guys even realize how much 1 ISK is!? With several thousand ISK I could retire for a lifetime on a pleasure planet. I don't need exuberant amounts of money to enjoy life. You said you wanna be a miner and people told you what to do to be a miner. If you wanna just mine veld and be happy and free - sure thing, they will leave ya alone. |
Nanako Chosokabe
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:45:31 -
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Haruna Hikikomori wrote:I also keep getting advice about mining other minerals because Veldspar is ISK inefficient. Do you guys even realize how much 1 ISK is!? With several thousand ISK I could retire for a lifetime on a pleasure planet. I don't need exuberant amounts of money to enjoy life.
The only rule you ever need to follow in New Edne is that if you enjoy doing what you are doing, then just keep doing it. If and when you find that less enjoyable and what to try something new, do that.
Don't ever let somebody make to you think that what you are doing isn't the right way to live your life in New Eden. |
Arkoth 24
Phayder
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:10:18 -
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Nanako Chosokabe wrote:The only rule you ever need to follow in New Edne is that if you enjoy doing what you are doing, then just keep doing it. If and when you find that less enjoyable and what to try something new, do that.
Don't ever let somebody make to you think that what you are doing isn't the right way to live your life in New Eden. Nice cliche. Life is just a little more complicated than books you read. |
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