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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.06.23 18:43:41 -
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Senicided wrote:thats some super complicated trolling going on there.. lol i like it.
but no i dont loot i just kill all the rats loot the one thing i need to to complete the mission.
The event went down in this order.
1.) I had the first room of the mission cleared and was heading to the acel gate. the guy warped in and closed distance really fast and warpscram/web me before i could react and warp out (i was a bit slow but i honestly didnt think he was gonna gank me) he was already yellow. and i remember thinking to myself... "does web/scram count as hostile action??? or does he have to shoot me?"
2.) more rats spawned (i assume because i got closer to the gate and triggered them) his friends jumped in about the same time. (i know what your thinking i was not killed by the rats it was like 3-4 of them and the tengu doesnt give a %#%# about that kinda damage even while not moving)
3.) They started shooting me at this point i have no idea what color the tags were i wasn't paying attention to anything but my HP)
4.) when my shields got really low (at least 30 seconds) and it was clear i gonna die i shot back at the cruiser sized attacker. (yea im not good at IDing ships yet)
i died (again at least 45 sec) and got podded (instantly which left me in shock at how fast they targeted my pod)
the whole time i was basically just thinking "concord will be here any second just stay alive" but they just never came.
Anyway when i get the ticket back ill make sure to report back.
Yeah it wouldn't be shooting *your* loot, he would just drop something he was carrying. It is quite evil sometimes.
As for the rest here:
1) Yes, web/scram is definitely hostile action - and unless he got legal permission to engage you he should have turned solid red as he began a gank attempt - however I don't truly think this was ever a suicide gank.
2) It would really help if you could either post your loss-mails on zkillboard or even just eve-mail them to me so I can see what ships were actually involved/etc lol - kind of flying blind here with so little info to go on.
Whether you are willing to share the killmails or not though - let us know once you find out what happened, because I'm definitely curious myself, and I'm sure others are too here. |
Sitting Bull Lakota
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2016.06.23 21:30:27 -
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Senicided wrote:The Tackler was yellow when he warped in. his friends turned yellow when they attacked me. Now that is interesting.
One last question: Do you use the default overview? Could you go into your overview settings and drag the share button to a mail and send it to me? I'd like to peruse your settings.
Nevermind my theory of salt derived from pod loss. I had a might too much drinkahol last night which makes me more prone to shiptoasting than I already am.
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Sitting Bull Lakota
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
92
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Posted - 2016.06.23 21:54:19 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote: 2) It would really help if you could either post your loss-mails on zkillboard or even just eve-mail them to me so I can see what ships were actually involved/etc lol - kind of flying blind here with so little info to go on.
The attacking ships were a worm with 2 small neuts and a salvager, and a shield repping kirin. Both characters have lost them before. EvE players sticking with what works, the losses are probably indicative of their usual fare.
It looks like the "point a container" theory will win out here, though that doesn't really explain where the killmail went. We have the pod, so one of them is api-verified. Why don't we also have the ship? I'm not a pro-circuit player, so I don't know the ins and outs of the system. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.06.23 22:03:09 -
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Sitting Bull Lakota wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote: 2) It would really help if you could either post your loss-mails on zkillboard or even just eve-mail them to me so I can see what ships were actually involved/etc lol - kind of flying blind here with so little info to go on.
The attacking ships were a worm with 2 small neuts and a salvager, and a shield repping kirin. Both characters have lost them before. EvE players sticking with what works, the losses are probably indicative of their usual fare. It looks like the "point a container" theory will win out here, though that doesn't really explain where the killmail went. We have the pod, so one of them is api-verified. Why don't we also have the ship? I'm not a pro-circuit player, so I don't know the ins and outs of the system. Well those 2 for sure but from his description it sounds like more than 2 were involved in this one - and they have been known to use up to 5-6 people sometimes.
The tengu final blows were presumably obtained by somebody in the fleet who doesn't have their API on the killboard - which sucks honestly.
The tengu killmails would be very helpful because not only would they show all of the ships involved, they would also tell us exactly how much damage each of them dealt, and allow us to compare it with the damage dealt by rats/etc.
Sadly in moments of confusion and excitement humans tend to lose track of a lot of details and provide fairly innacurate eyewitness accounts of events like this....so although I'm sure the OP is not intentionally lying or anything we also can't take everything he is saying as 100% true. The killmail would provide some actual hard facts to go on - even if it doesn't tell the whole story. |
Hottentott
Mostly Sober The Bastard Cartel
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Posted - 2016.06.23 23:38:33 -
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Forgot to mention that you had your raven stolen a few days prior, during which you shot one of them while they were not aggressed. This gave them a killright on you, which led to loss #2, your tengu. There is a way you can avoid this...go to secure.eveonline.com, log in, game time drop down, cancel subscription. Or you could just drink bleach. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2016.06.23 23:51:27 -
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Hottentott wrote:Forgot to mention that you had your raven stolen a few days prior, during which you shot one of them while they were not aggressed. This gave them a killright on you, which led to loss #2, your tengu. There is a way you can avoid this...go to secure.eveonline.com, log in, game time drop down, cancel subscription. Or you could just drink bleach. Yep, that would do it.. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.24 08:21:18 -
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Hottentott wrote: cancel subscription. Or you could just drink bleach. For **** sake man, this isnt redit, kindly keep this crap off our forums
Better the Devil you know.
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2016.06.24 15:25:43 -
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Removed a post for trolling.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to Evemails.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
82
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Posted - 2016.06.24 15:34:27 -
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ISD Max Trix wrote:Removed a post for trolling. Well his post was pretty bad, and I did quote him I suppose...
For those who are curious but missed it, here is a summary of what happened *without* the trolling:
In his first encounter with the mission ninja's, the OP apparently *gave* them his (intact) Raven Navy Issue...Paid them a ransom of some sort.....*AND* gave them kill rights. We never actually got any details, and I for one would still like the OP to elaborate, but I suspect he will be too embarassed.
Thus this 2nd encounter where he lost his tengu was simple kill-right activation. No mystery there. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
964
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Posted - 2016.06.24 17:37:38 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:ISD Max Trix wrote:Removed a post for trolling. Well his post was pretty bad, and I did quote him I suppose...
Yea, I was like, "Where is Ralph's post.....oh."
To newbies that might be confused. If mods delete a troll post, they also delete the posts, or depending on the mods snip any following posts, that quote the troll.
NQ&A is a special sub-forum where newbies can ask questions without fearing insults and trolls. It has special rules, because the other forums are considered part of the game, and thus trolling, insults, and other behaviors that are allowed in game are allowed in the other subforums to some extent. Even on the other forums, it is possible to overstep the boundaries.
Rookie chat and help chat are also moderated, but not 24/7 so while they can be good places to get quick answers the trolls do drop in. I recommend the help channels in game though. You can learn a lot just watching the text scroll by.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10102
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Posted - 2016.06.24 19:01:41 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:ISD Max Trix wrote:Removed a post for trolling. Well his post was pretty bad, and I did quote him I suppose... Yea, I was like, "Where is Ralph's post.....oh." EVE Search means that no posting history is ever lost.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/485609-1/page/2#35
Also... holy crap, the things people do to get aggression in High-Sec!
OP... try "abandoning" your wrecks when you run missions (right-click a wreck, "Abandon All"). You can still loot and salvage everything, but it removes any possible temptation or aggression mechanic that enables you to shoot a player.
Most "Mission Ninjas" get the hint when they see this and move on.
How did you Veterans start?
The Mustache and Beard Thread
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KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
363
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Posted - 2016.06.24 22:57:09 -
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It's funny...been listening to a lot of 'true crime' podcasts lately. The further into this thread I got, the more I thought "something doesn't sound quite right."
Suddenly truth is revealed and OP disappears.
Mystery solved.
Though we did get some clever gank tactics out of the thread.
KB
Dum Spiro Spero
Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid.
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Hottentott
Mostly Sober The Bastard Cartel
0
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Posted - 2016.06.24 22:58:45 -
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What part of my post was trolling? I was the only one to give the correct answer. I thought I gave him good advice, censorship at it's finest! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16488
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Posted - 2016.06.24 23:07:00 -
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^^ Tells a guy to do serious and potentialy mortal harm to himself and then complains about censorship.
Go back to redit.
Better the Devil you know.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10106
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Posted - 2016.06.24 23:15:05 -
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Hottentott wrote:What part of my post was trolling? I was the only one to give the correct answer. I thought I gave him good advice, censorship at it's finest!
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:^^ Tells a guy to do serious and potentialy mortal harm to himself and then complains about censorship. Pretty much sums it up.
Also... I wouldn't take the words of a character who does buying and selling of other characters very seriously.
I suspect you are looking to have a bit of "fun" before you burn this alt? Trying being more subtle next time.
How did you Veterans start?
The Mustache and Beard Thread
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Hottentott
Mostly Sober The Bastard Cartel
0
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Posted - 2016.06.25 15:50:16 -
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https://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20718027
Get Rekt |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1142
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Posted - 2016.06.25 16:46:43 -
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Well, in this light...
Hottentott wrote:I thought I gave him good advice... think again.
Remove insurance.
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2016.07.15 12:08:34 -
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Removed a post and those quoting it for discussing Forum Moderation. If you have issue with the way the forums are moderated, please file a support ticket.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to Evemails.
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