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TornSoul BIG Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:15:00 - [1] Edited by: TornSoul on 04/03/2007 19:12:26 www.BIG-EVE.com/BMBE This is the thirteenth BMBE shareholder report. Dividend and BMBE re-investment Real short - Just the basics... Dividend and BMBE re-investment February dividend : 2,913,108,600 ISK This equals to 1,456,554.3 ISK per share February BMBE re-investment : 1,456,554,300 ISK Dividend will be paid out in the comming week BIG Lottery [u
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:31:00 - [2] Edited by: Xrak on 04/03/2007 19:28:38 Thank you for being so much more prompt this time. Would it be possible to get a shareholder vote on whether we can stop the reinvestment and put all profits into dividends please? Originally by: Empress Aphrodite ("don't flush it yet - let's freshen up the room a little")
Tami Auryn Natural Evolution	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:53:00 - [3] Unbelivably on time this month
Reann Ni'shaang 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.06 06:11:00 - [4] Hi there, Is there a demand for reinvestment? I mean, is BMBE running with full capacity already with demand for more seen every month? Br, R
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2007.03.06 07:20:00 - [5] Edited by: Ray McCormack on 06/03/2007 07:17:48 After some discussion in this report and the 2nd IPO a vote was held and passed to switch to the current dividend model. The first month it was in place was July 2006. So less than a year ago, and the arguments for that switch still hold at this time. The re-investment is not always noticeable due to the general size of our loans, but this slow capital growth will eventually reap benefits. It also increases the NAV of your shares (am I correct in calling it this?) which should be 53,096,608.27 at the moment barring bad sums on my part. \| How To Afford A Tech II BPO \| the all mighty BIG industrial corp from hell with a slong the size of a walrus.
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.03.06 07:30:00 - [6] Originally by: Ray McCormack The re-investment is not always noticeable due to the general size of our loans, but this slow capital growth will eventually reap benefits. It also increases the NAV of your shares (am I correct in calling it this?) which should be 53,096,608.27 at the moment barring bad sums on my part. Now if someone would just tell the traders that. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2007.03.06 08:04:00 - [7] Perhaps someone could poke Aaro'ne Erviale to update our latest results to the performance page, as well as write up a fresh article for the news page. December-06 : 1,240,640.00 January-07 : 1,769,120.00 February-07 : 1,456,554.30 \| How To Afford A Tech II BPO \| the all mighty BIG industrial corp from hell with a slong the size of a walrus.
Aaro'ne Erviale EVE Galactic Stock Exchange	Posted - 2007.03.06 10:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Ray McCormack Perhaps someone could poke Aaro'ne Erviale to update our latest results to the performance page, as well as write up a fresh article for the news page. December-06 : 1,240,640.00 January-07 : 1,769,120.00 February-07 : 1,456,554.30 I'll try and add those results as soon as possible and if you want news published, just eve-mail the article to me. I could also grant you rights on the website to add the dividend yourself ... just convo me or Amia'e Erviale if you're interested. Keep them dividends comming ... regards, Aaro'ne Erviale CEO of EvE Galactic Stock Exchange Quote: As a buyer and seller of shares this is the place i want to be.
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.06 12:41:00 - [9] Edited by: Xrak on 06/03/2007 12:43:14 Originally by: Ray McCormack Edited by: Ray McCormack on 06/03/2007 07:17:48 After some discussion in this report and the 2nd IPO a vote was held and passed to switch to the current dividend model. The first month it was in place was July 2006. So less than a year ago, and the arguments for that switch still hold at this time. The re-investment is not always noticeable due to the general size of our loans, but this slow capital growth will eventually reap benefits. It also increases the NAV of your shares (am I correct in calling it this?) which should be 53,096,608.27 at the moment barring bad sums on my part. Without a proper shareholder report its kind of hard to judge anything! We havent been the told the status of any loans, if there are even any loans left still outstanding, how much capital is not being used, etc. Now that the dividends are being paid on time can we please get a proper report, its not alot to ask for once a month. At the minute BMBE is not really helping BIG's reputation. Its seems as if BIG has lost any real interest in BMBE, if this is the case then either liquidate or start putting a bit more effort please. Originally by: Empress Aphrodite ("don't flush it yet - let's freshen up the room a little")
TornSoul BIG Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:43:00 - [10] I've added the March forecast to the original post. --- As for a "proper" shareholder report. This is as good as it's going to get. I could post a lot of numbes from the loans, which in the end would add up to the numbers already listed. I consider the specifics of the individual loans a "trade secret"(ish ). There is competion out there - And I dont want to get into a undercutting by 0.1% thing (or whatever) You may disagree - Feel free. BIG Lottery [u

Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.07 01:28:00 - [11] Can you tell us the % of total capital being used each month please? I dont think it should be too hard to add this into the report? Originally by: Empress Aphrodite ("don't flush it yet - let's freshen up the room a little")
Tami Auryn Natural Evolution	Posted - 2007.03.07 11:28:00 - [12] Originally by: TornSoul As for a "proper" shareholder report. This is as good as it's going to get. I could post a lot of numbes from the loans, which in the end would add up to the numbers already listed. I consider the specifics of the individual loans a "trade secret"(ish ). There is competion out there - And I dont want to get into a undercutting by 0.1% thing (or whatever) You may disagree - Feel free. lol ... I dont really know what to say anymore this is sureal. Could there be a more stuborn, and lazy person out there, I would be happy with. Loan 1 - x bil isk - y mil interest colected - finished (ran for 3 months) Loan 2 - x bil isk - - on going I'm sure other people would also want to see this information. And it shows nothing about customer privacy or is any problem for competition. Maybe tornsoul needs a raise, if he got 99% of the profit maybe we could see the reports and dividends on time and a bit more typing usefull information on the reports. But then again this is tornsoul, that will never happen.
TornSoul BIG Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.07 20:28:00 - [13] Originally by: Xrak Can you tell us the % of total capital being used each month please? I dont think it should be too hard to add this into the report? How would you go about quantifying this? It's not a fixed amount per month... BIG Lottery [u
Eefrit Eve Financial Services	Posted - 2007.03.07 20:47:00 - [14] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Xrak Can you tell us the % of total capital being used each month please? I dont think it should be too hard to add this into the report? How would you go about quantifying this? It's not a fixed amount per month... The way every other business report in the world does it. Give the weighted average over the month. /Eefrit
TornSoul BIG Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.07 22:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Eefrit The way every other business report in the world does it. Give the weighted average over the month. /Eefrit Yeah I suppose that would be one way. What would a weighted average tell you? Say 50B is lend out the last day in the month - Then the weighted average wont be a very good indicator for next month (or?) - Or is that irrelevant? (not dismissing it - asking a honest question, so if you could all drop your attitudes - or I'll drop this thread. In general, if you havent noticed yet, I dont react well to "demands" or insults, helpfull suggestions without an attitude works far better) BIG Lottery [u
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.03.07 23:56:00 - [16] Edited by: Xrak on 07/03/2007 23:53:27 What about total capital used at the time of the report? I thought most loans were more then 4weeks in length? Or how about maximum capital used at any time during the month? The information gained was to see how much capital was not being used up, rather then for profit-auditing. I am trying to stay polite and suggestive rather then demanding and insulting, we all get a bit frustrated sometimes. Originally by: Empress Aphrodite ("don't flush it yet - let's freshen up the room a little")
Kasia Pelarar	Posted - 2007.03.18 11:03:00 - [17] Originally by: TornSoul Edited by: TornSoul on 06/03/2007 18:35:14 Edited by: TornSoul on 04/03/2007 19:12:26 Dividend and BMBE re-investment February dividend : 2,913,108,600 ISK This equals to 1,456,554.3 ISK per share February BMBE re-investment : 1,456,554,300 ISK Dividend will be paid out in the comming week As this was posted almost two weeks ago, can we be paid this dividend soon? Or at least before the March one in two weeks? Eve Share & Market Reporting (ESMaR) & Eve Share & Market Analysis (ESMAn)
Tami Auryn Natural Evolution	Posted - 2007.03.18 20:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Kasia Pelarar As this was posted almost two weeks ago, can we be paid this dividend soon? Or at least before the March one in two weeks? I'm at a loss for words
Kasia Pelarar	Posted - 2007.03.20 22:55:00 - [19] Originally by: TornSoul Dividend and BMBE re-investment February dividend : 2,913,108,600 ISK This equals to 1,456,554.3 ISK per share February BMBE re-investment : 1,456,554,300 ISK Dividend will be paid out in the comming week Paid out and received today, thanks. Eve Share & Market Reporting (ESMaR) & Eve Share & Market Analysis (ESMAn)
Lord Humongous Caldari FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.21 17:48:00 - [20] BIG is doing a good job at this there is alot off work involved, the dividends seem to be going up. keep up the good work regards,

JP Moregain Gallente EVE Reserve Bank	Posted - 2007.03.21 19:06:00 - [21] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Eefrit The way every other business report in the world does it. Give the weighted average over the month. /Eefrit Yeah I suppose that would be one way. What would a weighted average tell you? Say 50B is lend out the last day in the month - Then the weighted average wont be a very good indicator for next month (or?) - Or is that irrelevant? (not dismissing it - asking a honest question, so if you could all drop your attitudes - or I'll drop this thread. In general, if you havent noticed yet, I dont react well to "demands" or insults, helpfull suggestions without an attitude works far better) Both end of period and average loans/investments are typically disclosed by banks/investment co's. If you show both I wouldn't think it would seriously compromise any trade secrets and may quell some of the dissatisfaction by investors. Then again it may not. The weighted average typically is more relevant when examining how much profit is generated in a given period, since in your example the 50B lent out on the last day of the month wouldn't likley significantly add to the profits for that period. As you pointed out the end of period would be more relevant for looking to future period projections. Best regards, JP http://www.evereserve.com
TornSoul BIG Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.21 20:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Kasia Pelarar As this was posted almost two weeks ago, can we be paid this dividend soon? Or at least before the March one in two weeks? For once - The delay is not my doing Originally by: JP Moregain Both end of period and average loans/investments are typically disclosed by banks/investment co's. If you show both I wouldn't think it would seriously compromise any trade secrets and may quell some of the dissatisfaction by investors. Then again it may not. Thanks for the comments. End of period and average - sounds "safe" enough. For quelling dissatisfaction - Doubt it It's often the case that when a question gets answered, the answer itself only leads to more questions Want to bet? BIG Lottery [u
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.03.21 21:09:00 - [23] Originally by: TornSoul Want to bet? Against you, never. On you, already have. The Eve-Online forums may not have invented whining, but they sure have perfected it. Arknox > shar with bad hair day >>> solution = suicide and spawn fresh clone :D
Tami Auryn Natural Evolution	Posted - 2007.03.21 23:57:00 - [24] Originally by: Lord Humongous BIG is doing a good job at this there is alot off work involved, the dividends seem to be going up. keep up the good work regards, you'r funny how much where you paid to say that?
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.03.22 08:37:00 - [25] Originally by: Tami Auryn how much where you paid to say that? Doubt he needed anything to give that comment; probably your crusade alone is enough to provoke such comments. That is, although you have had some valid criticism, you drown them amongs the bitter comments on your never-ending crusade, shifting lot of sympathy towards your victim. -Lasse
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.05.01 23:01:00 - [26] in another bmbe thread, ray said it was better to ask these sort of things in a div post. so i'm asking here. does bmbe buy back shares, if so at what price? how much of a cut does bmbe take before profits? i ask these because i'm not seeing information on the bmbe links in people sigs/posts. also, the latter seems to be brought up a lot, and the former is never mentioned, so i'm thinking it doesn't happen.
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.02 00:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd how much of a cut does bmbe take before profits I reckon you mean 'from the profits'? The last discussion I recall was quite a long ago when it was decided that BMBE gets 40% of monthly profits, shareholders divide another 40%, and the rest are invested to increase capital available for loans. -Lasse
F FLETCH	Posted - 2007.05.02 07:21:00 - [28] Originally by: Tami Auryn Originally by: TornSoul As for a "proper" shareholder report. This is as good as it's going to get. I could post a lot of numbes from the loans, which in the end would add up to the numbers already listed. I consider the specifics of the individual loans a "trade secret"(ish ). There is competion out there - And I dont want to get into a undercutting by 0.1% thing (or whatever) You may disagree - Feel free. lol ... I dont really know what to say anymore this is sureal. Could there be a more stuborn, and lazy person out there, I would be happy with. Loan 1 - x bil isk - y mil interest colected - finished (ran for 3 months) Loan 2 - x bil isk - - on going I'm sure other people would also want to see this information. And it shows nothing about customer privacy or is any problem for competition. Maybe tornsoul needs a raise, if he got 99% of the profit maybe we could see the reports and dividends on time and a bit more typing usefull information on the reports. But then again this is tornsoul, that will never happen. What have you got against TS ffs? As I quiet investor I read these reports with intrest and am happy with the business model as a whole. All you ever do is jump on every BMBE subject and complain about TS, did he do you some personal injustice irc or something? For god sake give it a rest. FF
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2007.05.02 10:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd in another bmbe thread, ray said it was better to ask these sort of things in a div post. so i'm asking here. Thanks, I appreciate that. Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd does bmbe buy back shares, if so at what price? TornSoul and myself are busy finalising details pertaining to a share buyback programme as well as other changes to the operational structure of the BMBE. I don't have a timescale for when we'll post about them, but there will more than likely be a shareholder vote pertaining to them. Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd how much of a cut does bmbe take before profits? I presume you mean how much of a cut do we take before dividends? The current structure is to split profits 3 ways. This is done 40/40/20 for dividends/admin fee/re-investment. \| Get A Loan For That Must Have Ship / Module \| BMBE \|

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