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Skilgana
ExoGen Foundation Voice of the Void
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Posted - 2016.06.28 11:24:57 -
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Hey,
Looking for advice on a new Tengu fit, I normally fly in small gangs (2-4) and ambush in WH space.
I'm fairly new to PvP and my Corp has been helping me get to grips with it. I'm now feeling like I can now go solo.
I have been exploring fits for Tengu pvp but they seem outdated.
I'm fairly skilled in hams
I want a sustainable active tank as lacking links. And solo fights might progress with others landing on grid and I want to be able to last and hopefully gtfo or smash them off the field. Also happy to take advice on tactics. I am humble enough to say I still have a lot to learn
Any advice would be welcome |
Nerapa
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2016.06.28 12:00:25 -
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Skilgana wrote:Hey,
Looking for advice on a new Tengu fit, I normally fly in small gangs (2-4) and ambush in WH space.
I'm fairly new to PvP and my Corp has been helping me get to grips with it. I'm now feeling like I can now go solo.
I have been exploring fits for Tengu pvp but they seem outdated.
I'm fairly skilled in hams
I want a sustainable active tank as lacking links. And solo fights might progress with others landing on grid and I want to be able to last and hopefully gtfo or smash them off the field. Also happy to take advice on tactics. I am humble enough to say I still have a lot to learn
Any advice would be welcome
Should maybe include a budget. In WH's we go by the "If in doubt, purple out" approach
TDSIN C5/C5 Recruiting
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Tung Yoggi
ElitistOps
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Posted - 2016.06.28 14:05:12 -
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Don't start your solo career with a ~400M-ish ship which drains your skillpoints when you die, and is not particularly amazing flown without any kind of force multipliers.
That being said, if you really insist on trying your luck, you can try this close range active brawler (since you said you are skilled in HAMs):
Quote:[Tengu, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster EM Ward Field II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Expanded Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor
You can't really "ambush" stuff with that, a cloaky version could, but you will be limited to a tiny selection of targets (things that don't tank nor shoot back a lot). |
Skilgana
ExoGen Foundation Voice of the Void
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Posted - 2016.06.28 14:35:39 -
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I lost 1 Tengu due to my piloting mistake(s) against another Tengu, I got kited away from WH entrance then 2 other ships landed on grid, curse neuted me dry and I was dead (I left my shield booster on rather than pulsed when needed), my tank held very well up to that point. I was slowly beating the other Tengu... Budgets not an issue really. I lost 1 level on Caldari propulsion. All subs at level 5 before that. I'm relatively skilled in Caldari missile boats, my engineering and shield skills are good. I would rather not bling out the Tengu if I don't have too as I'm experimenting, if I lose it then So be it, I can always eject if losing the ship is a forgone result.
Thank you for your suggestion on fit, I will give it a go. Any advice on what I should be doing during the fight? Eg orbit ranges... Kiting distance etc etc... Not many of my Corp play Caldari, they are gallente or amarr so they can only suggest so much. I'm slowly training amour skills and gunnery so I can get into fleets that fit logo...but that's digressing.
If you have other suggestions other than a Tengu I'm open to other ships/fits. I went with Tengu as its so versatile in game and can fit to do anything I want.
I really apreciate all advice? |
Zand Vor
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
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Posted - 2016.06.28 15:52:40 -
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[Tengu, Super Tengu] Damage Control II Missile Guidance Enhancer II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 200 Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 200 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Gistum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Warp Scrambler II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Guristas Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier II Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
I'd say this will 1v2 most other ships out there, and could 1v3 potentially, if flown properly. |
Skilgana
ExoGen Foundation Voice of the Void
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Posted - 2016.06.28 16:04:29 -
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Zand Vor wrote:[Tengu, Super Tengu] Damage Control II Missile Guidance Enhancer II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 200 Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 200 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Gistum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Warp Scrambler II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Guristas Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier II Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
I'd say this will 1v2 most other ships out there, and could 1v3 potentially, if flown properly.
So what tips would you say to Fly properly? any advice on tactics? |
Tung Yoggi
ElitistOps
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Posted - 2016.06.28 16:53:41 -
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Pretty straightforward, load the right missiles, hit approach / orbit / keep at range (<9km) depending on your target, overload if needed, and cross fingers. Carry synth crash and up to improved blue pill boosters.
Be really careful in your target selection, avoid energy neutralizing ships, and try to keep a gtfo option (stay near a gate or a wh if you're not shooting a lone pve ship).
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Skilgana
ExoGen Foundation Voice of the Void
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Posted - 2016.06.28 17:32:55 -
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thanks for the tips...the GTFO option is very in my mind...lost a 900 mil tengu because if messed up...wont happen again
thank you |
Zand Vor
Anomalous Existence Low-Class
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Posted - 2016.06.28 18:12:05 -
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Neuts do almost nothing against the Super Tengu. By the time they neut you, you are in range and shooting. Your tank doesn't rely on cap at all, just cap boosters. Pulse your MWD, then leave it off. Try not to run both shield boosters at the same time. If you find you need to, you're in over your head and need to GTFO. |
Matt Benneth
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.06.28 18:16:53 -
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Zand Vor wrote:Neuts do almost nothing against the Super Tengu. By the time they neut you, you are in range and shooting. Your tank doesn't rely on cap at all, just cap boosters.
Who ever neuts you out has advantage since they can disengage if fight doesn't go their way.
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Pax Deltari
NPC Corp Worst Corp No Doubt
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Posted - 2016.06.28 18:32:41 -
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Way off topic but throwing it out there in case you can fly it. The Proteus seems to be the T3 of Choice of Ganking in WH's. |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:13:26 -
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Don't learn your PvP in a T3 Cruiser. Have a crack at something like a Stratios, or straight up stealth bombers.
Zand Vor wrote:[Tengu, Super Tengu] {snip} 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive {snip} I'd say this will 1v2 most other ships out there, and could 1v3 potentially, if flown properly. typo?
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:30:15 -
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Tengus are pretty awful solo PVP ships IMO. Certainly for someone just starting to solo. Thing is, it's extremely rare to find actual 1v1 PVP fights in wspace. It's almost always going to be a 1v1 gank of a PVE ship, or a small gang fight between 2 gangs so there's no real point in flying a ship designed for 1v1 PVP.
Hunting solo is fine, but you're going to be looking at PVE targets the vast amount of the time and you should have backup for getting into gang PVP fights. For solo hunting, the stratios is superb and I wouldnt fly anything else. It's better than any cloaky T3 for killing PVE ships and is much cheaper and safer to lose. I highly recommend it.
This is my go to fit:
Quote:[Stratios, Nemo] 1600mm Steel Plates II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II
50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher, RSS Core Scanner Probe Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Gecko x2 If you do insist on flying a solo tengu, I have had a lot of fun in the past with 100mn AB fits but they're pretty obsolete these days since everything else has been buffed up around them.
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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.06.29 13:43:19 -
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more of a claymore than a sleip innit?
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4904
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Posted - 2016.06.30 00:04:59 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:more of a claymore than a sleip innit? no not really, since the claymore is not remotely fittable as a dual asb ship.
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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.06.30 15:37:42 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:more of a claymore than a sleip innit? no not really, since the claymore is not remotely fittable as a dual asb ship. but it shoots missiles
let's call it 50/50
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Jack Miton
Un.Reasonable
4904
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Posted - 2016.07.01 00:04:55 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:more of a claymore than a sleip innit? no not really, since the claymore is not remotely fittable as a dual asb ship. but it shoots missiles let's call it 50/50 I mean... it BARELY shoots missiles... DPS is so bad that I assume the pilot just kinda throws them out the window world war 1 style.
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