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Le Plebo
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.08.30 04:45:49 -
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Lol get rekt nerd |
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
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Posted - 2016.08.30 19:02:35 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Trevor Dalech wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:CONCORD stopped doing their job the day they were hired.
Since day 1 of the game they have allowed NPC pirates to roam freely across high security space, murdering innocent capsuleers at will.
When the Sanshas invaded, declaring war directly on CONCORD - did Concord mobilize their massive fleets (we've all seen them cluttering up random gates for no apparent reason - we *know* they have the ships)? NO THEY DID NOT. Instead they whined endlessly and sent hordes of capsuleers out to fight and die in their place.
They claim they "can't handle" these threats, so they need our "help" to protect high sec against these threats.... But we've all seen CONCORD in action. Their lowliest frigate is equipped with advanced equipment that makes it more than a match for even the largest incursion fleet ever fielded by capsuleers. And they have THOUSANDS of ships on standby at any given moment - with the ability to create more AT WILL whenever they need them.
Yet still, even when there is already a massive CONCORD fleet in an asteroid belt, they will just sit and watch "helplessly" as an innocent venture falls pray to a lone NPC pirate. Claiming that they "can't help" - even though all it would take is the press of a single button to do so.
The question, therefore, is not "When did CONCORD stop doing its job?"
The real question is: "Will CONCORD ever bother to *start* doing its job?" You just suggested we turn high sec into a state policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad. Their morals are supported by only a small minority of the community. And I thought the Stasi was bad... Actually I just pointed out that high sec *already is* policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad. They are just lazy and don't bother to do anything because despite their public claims of what they supposedly want...
Can we get a citation for these public claims?
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.08.30 19:18:54 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:Can we get a citation for these public claims? I think CCP would rather sweep it under the rug than publicly acknowledge or advertise it...
But I tell you what - why don't you go and do the following for me:
#1) Fly to any high-sec belt with an NPC rat shooting a miner (not hard to find, especially with the really afk miners who don't ever kill them) #2) Take a screen shot of the rat shooting him. #3) Kill him with your catalyst #4) Take some screen shots of your battle with CONCORD - I mean if they can't handle that little belt rat they certainly can't handle your catalyst right? #5) Post the pictures online somewhere #6) Link the pictures here
Then I can go ahead and quote you and use you as my citation that my bold claims are obviously true.
Alternatively feel free to take pictures of yourself killing the weak, underpowered concord ship that can't handle a high sec belt rat - I'd be happy to be proven wrong as well.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
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Posted - 2016.08.31 13:16:54 -
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So that's a "no" then? |
Dirty Forum Alt
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Posted - 2016.08.31 13:23:51 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:So that's a "no" then? https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000125/
164 members
over 230 THOUSAND kills
Zero Losses...
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55843272/
Miners still die to belt rats that deal 2 dps...In high sec...patrolled by concord....
There you go - Citations given o7
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Jovian Death
Atomic Battle Beavers
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Posted - 2016.08.31 13:35:51 -
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Hitori Tenchi wrote:I'm pretty sure it hasn't. But if it ever did this game would be WAY more interesting.
CCP should do a 1 day event where CONCORD goes on strike and not tell anyone. No forum announcements, no social media posts. Just put CONCORD in a box for one day and watch what happens. It would be the most interesting day in EVE since it launched.
Meh just turn Highsec to null for 24 hrs. Would love to see titans pounding jita undock
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.08.31 14:07:50 -
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Also note CONCORD doesn't even bother to touch that belt rat *after* it kills the miner. No punishment at all for the millions of pirate NPCs that freely roam high-sec even thicker than they roam their "home" territories in NPC 0.0 space...
TBH I think CONCORD wouldn't do anything at all - but their leadership hates gankers and/or the CODE. organization specifically for some reason and just looks for any excuse to murder them...
I'm not saying this is a bad thing - I mean at least there is *something* that gets them up off their lazy ***es once in a while to earn a little bit of the taxes we pay for their salaries...
I'm just pointing out that the clear, objective reality is that we have an insanely powerful, nigh on invulnerable police force that essentially does.... nothing whatsoever vs the vast majority of criminal activity in high-sec - except when a few specific minorities are involved.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Fiddly Pop
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.08.31 15:14:16 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:TBH I think CONCORD wouldn't do anything at all - but their leadership hates gankers and/or the CODE. organization specifically for some reason and just looks for any excuse to murder them...
CODE. deals with CONCORD harassment every day. Despite numerous petitions from hundred of members, CCP still refuses to stop the harassment . Just look at their Kill Boards, https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000125 , 75% CODE.. Anyone can see that they take advantage of current game mechanics to hunt us down and kill us no matter what we do.
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
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Posted - 2016.08.31 19:08:46 -
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I can't find any statements by the CONCORD Assembly in those links you provided. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.08.31 19:09:25 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:I can't find any statements by the CONCORD Assembly in those links you provided. What makes you think they are literate? Can you provide any citations for your own bold assertion?
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
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Posted - 2016.09.01 16:36:31 -
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What bold assertions are you talking about? All I did was ask for a source, which you clearly can't provide.
So CONCORD never made any public claims. Glad we cleared that up. |
Dirty Forum Alt
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Posted - 2016.09.01 16:40:33 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:What bold assertions are you talking about? All I did was ask for a source, which you clearly can't provide.
So CONCORD never made any public claims. Glad we cleared that up. Nobody ever claimed CONCORD made any public claims...
I said they don't do their job...
If you can't tell the difference, then I suggest you go buy the "Reading Comprehension" skill - you should really get it at least to level 1 before you try to participate on the forums...
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.09.01 16:43:09 -
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Also your bold assertion was that CONCORD had ever posted any public announcements....ever. Or that they are even capable of doing so.
You are the only one that ever even *implied* CONCORD had ever made a public announcement of any kind...ever...
So yeah...congratulations...you've proved you are an idiot?
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.09.01 16:48:39 -
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If you rather vague and unspecified demand for a citation was in regards to my stating that CONCORD should have fought the Sanshas - you need look no further than the official CCP lore posts to find the Sanshas directly declaring themselves enemies of CONCORD....
And I challenge you to find evidence of a CONCORD fleet killing a single Sansha's ship in response.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
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Posted - 2016.09.01 16:54:45 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Trevor Dalech wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:CONCORD stopped doing their job the day they were hired.
Since day 1 of the game they have allowed NPC pirates to roam freely across high security space, murdering innocent capsuleers at will.
When the Sanshas invaded, declaring war directly on CONCORD - did Concord mobilize their massive fleets (we've all seen them cluttering up random gates for no apparent reason - we *know* they have the ships)? NO THEY DID NOT. Instead they whined endlessly and sent hordes of capsuleers out to fight and die in their place.
They claim they "can't handle" these threats, so they need our "help" to protect high sec against these threats.... But we've all seen CONCORD in action. Their lowliest frigate is equipped with advanced equipment that makes it more than a match for even the largest incursion fleet ever fielded by capsuleers. And they have THOUSANDS of ships on standby at any given moment - with the ability to create more AT WILL whenever they need them.
Yet still, even when there is already a massive CONCORD fleet in an asteroid belt, they will just sit and watch "helplessly" as an innocent venture falls pray to a lone NPC pirate. Claiming that they "can't help" - even though all it would take is the press of a single button to do so.
The question, therefore, is not "When did CONCORD stop doing its job?"
The real question is: "Will CONCORD ever bother to *start* doing its job?" You just suggested we turn high sec into a state policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad. Their morals are supported by only a small minority of the community. And I thought the Stasi was bad... Actually I just pointed out that high sec *already is* policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad. They are just lazy and don't bother to do anything because despite their public claims of what they supposedly want... Can we get a citation for these public claims?
"They [CONCORD] are just lazy and don't bother to do anything because despite their public claims of what they supposedly want..."
Can you seriously not remember what you said just one page earlier? |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.09.01 17:02:08 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:Can you seriously not remember what you said just one page earlier? CCP has made many claims about what CONCORD supposedly "does" throughout EVE lore - go look it up yourself.
Or provide your own citation that indicates CONCORD's "job" is different from what I described.
Oh you can't? Because I'm right?
Well then.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
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Posted - 2016.09.01 18:22:52 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Galaxy Duck wrote:Can you seriously not remember what you said just one page earlier? CCP has made many claims about what CONCORD supposedly "does" throughout EVE lore - go look it up yourself. Or provide your own citation that indicates CONCORD's "job" is different from what I described. Oh you can't? Because I'm right? Well then.
Funny how twisted up into knots you get when someone just asks for a source.
I wasn't even saying you were wrong, I was just interested in reading these "public claims". I would have even accepted "Its from the chronicles" or "in one of Tony Gonzales' books" but no, instead you got super defensive and started trying to make this about me.
You still haven't cited a single source and so I guess I'll accept "go look it up yourself [somewhere in the volumes and volumes of EVE lore]" as an admission of defeat on your part. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.09.01 18:26:04 -
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Galaxy Duck wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Galaxy Duck wrote:Can you seriously not remember what you said just one page earlier? CCP has made many claims about what CONCORD supposedly "does" throughout EVE lore - go look it up yourself. Or provide your own citation that indicates CONCORD's "job" is different from what I described. Oh you can't? Because I'm right? Well then. Funny how twisted up into knots you get when someone just asks for a source. I wasn't even saying you were wrong, I was just interested in reading these "public claims". I would have even accepted "Its from the chronicles" or "in one of Tony Gonzales' books" but no, instead you got super defensive and started trying to make this about me. You still haven't cited a single source and so I guess I'll accept "go look it up yourself [somewhere in the volumes and volumes of EVE lore]" as an admission of defeat on your part. In case you really couldn't tell I was doing a little in-character role-playing here... I'm a bit clumsy at it, don't get all that much practice.
So no, I don't have sources
But I can keep posting/arguing all day if you like - I even took on an epic 1v2 fight vs a POCO in jita *and* a Vendetta Mercenary Group Kronos *while* I was arguing with you. Sadly my rookie ship wasn't up to the task - but I did get the POCO down to 50% shields.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
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Posted - 2016.09.01 19:08:53 -
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You're an odd duck, DFA. I kinda like you... |
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