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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.07.06 22:49:55 -
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No , though it certainly looks like that doesent it.
Something painfully obvious dawned on vlad in a "eureka" moment and hes been running with that tangent since
Better the Devil you know.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4939
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Posted - 2016.07.06 23:02:54 -
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Brokk Witgenstein wrote:??????
Posted in the wrong thread or did a chunk of it get moderated out? You want to war dec indians? Smoke weed everyday yea?
I'm war deccing Indians unless they buy me off with aloo gobi.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Crinnfika
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2016.07.06 23:52:25 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Geronimo McVain wrote:I disagree: The Wardeccers DON'T want a good fight. The OP named some deccing corps. When they want a good fight why not decc each other? If they don't want to fight, why do they declare so many wardecs?
They don't wardec for fights, they wardec for kills.
If spam wardeccers wanted fights they would be roaming null and low where they could actually get a good fight. They choose highsec because they are more interested in making their killboard look pretty.
Some people PvP because they enjoy a good fight, others PvP because they enjoy the schadenfreude of making some helpless victim mad. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4940
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Posted - 2016.07.06 23:59:54 -
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Crinnfika wrote:Black Pedro wrote:Geronimo McVain wrote:I disagree: The Wardeccers DON'T want a good fight. The OP named some deccing corps. When they want a good fight why not decc each other? If they don't want to fight, why do they declare so many wardecs? They don't wardec for fights, they wardec for kills. If spam wardeccers wanted fights they would be roaming null and low where they could actually get a good fight. They choose highsec because they are more interested in making their killboard look pretty. Some people PvP because they enjoy a good fight, others PvP because they enjoy the schadenfreude of making some helpless victim mad.
Oh yeah, because we only do honorable ebushido fights in null.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
291
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Posted - 2016.07.07 00:17:11 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Oh yeah, because we only do honorable ebushido fights in null.
I'd argue WHs are the only place to consistently get honorable fights anymore. It's the only place left where I see people regularly change ships to even the fight and actually have some fun |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
578
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Posted - 2016.07.07 00:21:52 -
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This thread is really delivering.
I bow down before the ISDs and thank them immensely for their new soft approach to moderating. A couple of years ago this thread would have been locked back on page 1.
But since it's just a small group of us arguing here, it's much appreciated that it's left open. It's very entertaining. |
Aaron
Stain Syndicate
401
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Posted - 2016.07.07 01:52:24 -
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LMAO!! I'm sorry the attitudes of some seen in this thread are ridiculous.
LOL...You want structures that feed you intel?, and you want an intel tab which you can access and get live data about your war targets? in other words you want watchlist version 2.0? otherwise you'll protest by sitting in stations all day and not doing anything?
You guys should hurry up and leave the game and take Dracvlad with you. You still have a perfectly functioning system to generate PVP content and the truth is you're all just to darn lazy to go scout out your target. I hope CCP completely ignore your requests. Nothing they do will ever make you guys happy.
The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
There are faults in what you class as playing the game, some of you seem to want war targets served up with all the trimmings, and you're just angry because its not as easy as you want it to be. This game is too gangsta for you, the current generation of Eve player is a lazy one.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Valkin Mordirc
2166
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Posted - 2016.07.07 01:53:53 -
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Crinnfika wrote:Black Pedro wrote:Geronimo McVain wrote:I disagree: The Wardeccers DON'T want a good fight. The OP named some deccing corps. When they want a good fight why not decc each other? If they don't want to fight, why do they declare so many wardecs? They don't wardec for fights, they wardec for kills. If spam wardeccers wanted fights they would be roaming null and low where they could actually get a good fight. They choose highsec because they are more interested in making their killboard look pretty. Some people PvP because they enjoy a good fight, others PvP because they enjoy the schadenfreude of making some helpless victim mad.
Hardly. The whole entire notion of Gud Fites don't really happen.
I've been dropped in lowsec and Null sec in small ****, crusier or down by full carrier supported fleets, but blobbed by Ivy and the ilk.
People don't like to lose it's human nature. So if they can assure a victory you know they will take it.
Good Fight's only happen by luck when both parties are unprepared for each other.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
142
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Posted - 2016.07.07 01:56:48 -
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Aaron wrote:LMAO!! I'm sorry the attitudes of some seen in this thread are ridiculous.
LOL...You want structures that feed you intel?, and you want an intel tab which you can access and get live data about your war targets? in other words you want watchlist version 2.0? otherwise you'll protest by sitting in stations all day and not doing anything?
You guys should hurry up and leave the game and take Dracvlad with you. You still have a perfectly functioning system to generate PVP content and the truth is you're all just to darn lazy to go scout out your target. I hope CCP completely ignore your requests. Nothing they do will ever make you guys happy.
The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
There are faults in what you class as playing the game, some of you seem to want war targets served up with all the trimmings, and you're just angry because its not as easy as you want it to be. This game is too gangsta for you, the current generation of Eve player is a lazy one. Yeah, I was 110% serious about my suggestion. You got me.
I also demand that CCP give me a fully fit maxed out polaris frigate + the skills to fly it as well!
And a trillion free skillpoints while they are at it!
Otherwise I'll totally sit in station all day as a protest, because that'll show them.
Clearly you aren't reading my posts...but do you even read *your own* to see how ridiculous you are getting here? Obviously Dracvlad has gotten under your skin and it is personal - but there is no need to lose all sanity regarding everyone else and their posts just because of him... |
Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
383
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Posted - 2016.07.07 02:03:56 -
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Aaron wrote: The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
Oh rly?
Look at this
If you watch that vid.. old as **** 2003 I think.. Guess whats there? Yes.. the watchlist.
So what did you guys do before the watchlist again? |
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Aaron
Stain Syndicate
401
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Posted - 2016.07.07 02:05:47 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Aaron wrote:LMAO!! I'm sorry the attitudes of some seen in this thread are ridiculous.
LOL...You want structures that feed you intel?, and you want an intel tab which you can access and get live data about your war targets? in other words you want watchlist version 2.0? otherwise you'll protest by sitting in stations all day and not doing anything?
You guys should hurry up and leave the game and take Dracvlad with you. You still have a perfectly functioning system to generate PVP content and the truth is you're all just to darn lazy to go scout out your target. I hope CCP completely ignore your requests. Nothing they do will ever make you guys happy.
The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
There are faults in what you class as playing the game, some of you seem to want war targets served up with all the trimmings, and you're just angry because its not as easy as you want it to be. This game is too gangsta for you, the current generation of Eve player is a lazy one. Yeah, I was 110% serious about my suggestion. You got me. I also demand that CCP give me a fully fit maxed out polaris frigate + the skills to fly it as well! And a trillion free skillpoints while they are at it! Otherwise I'll totally sit in station all day as a protest, because that'll show them. Clearly you aren't reading my posts...but do you even read *your own* to see how ridiculous you are getting here? Obviously Dracvlad has gotten under your skin and it is personal - but there is no need to lose all sanity regarding everyone else and their posts just because of him...
LOL, now youre trying to claim it was sarcasm? LOL ... I'm shitting you..
I think this is how some of you hi sec merc types are, sorry you've been stereotyped...HAHA.
With Drac I'm just tired of him thinking he is right on everything, he is 100% and should just leave the game because it is not to his liking.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
142
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Posted - 2016.07.07 02:07:21 -
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Aaron wrote:LOL, now youre trying to claim it was sarcasm? LOL ... I'm shitting you..
I think this is how some of you hi sec merc types are, sorry you've been stereotyped...HAHA.
With Drac I'm just tired of him thinking he is right on everything, he is 100% and should just leave the game because it is not to his liking. I really don't think it could have been much more obvious that it was sarcastic...
You guys really need to develop a sense of humour - you would enjoy not just EVE but life in general much more. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
142
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Posted - 2016.07.07 02:08:20 -
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Double post. |
Aaron
Stain Syndicate
402
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Posted - 2016.07.07 02:28:02 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote:Aaron wrote: The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
Oh rly? Look at thisIf you watch that vid.. old as **** 2003 I think.. Guess whats there? Yes.. the watchlist. So what did you guys do before the watchlist again?
I think you are mistaken, the watchlist appeared in 2011/12 the release of Eve was 2003/4 not that specific video.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Aaron
Stain Syndicate
402
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Posted - 2016.07.07 02:36:56 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Aaron wrote:LOL, now youre trying to claim it was sarcasm? LOL ... I'm shitting you..
I think this is how some of you hi sec merc types are, sorry you've been stereotyped...HAHA.
With Drac I'm just tired of him thinking he is right on everything, he is 100% and should just leave the game because it is not to his liking. I really don't think it could have been much more obvious that it was sarcastic... You guys really need to develop a sense of humour - you would enjoy not just EVE but life in general much more.
Like I said, I KNOW it was meant as sarcasm, I did find it funny.
I used your sarcasm to exaggerate what it is you merc guys really want, It's just my way of saying that what some want from this game is an easy ride and they don't feel they need to put the work in to achieve stuff. CCP have been making this game too easy in my opinion and I am now 100% committed to the removal of the watchlist. All we need now is local removed and we got ourselves the most gansta game on the market.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
383
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Posted - 2016.07.07 02:41:52 -
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Aaron wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Aaron wrote: The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
Oh rly? Look at thisIf you watch that vid.. old as **** 2003 I think.. Guess whats there? Yes.. the watchlist. So what did you guys do before the watchlist again? I think you are mistaken, the watchlist appeared in 2011/12 the release of Eve was 2003/4 not that specific video.
Ok, I'll up you one
Edit.. changing your post didnt help you |
Aaron
Stain Syndicate
402
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Posted - 2016.07.07 03:26:59 -
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Lord Razpataz wrote:Aaron wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Aaron wrote: The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
Oh rly? Look at thisIf you watch that vid.. old as **** 2003 I think.. Guess whats there? Yes.. the watchlist. So what did you guys do before the watchlist again? I think you are mistaken, the watchlist appeared in 2011/12 the release of Eve was 2003/4 not that specific video. Ok, I'll up you oneEdit.. changing your post didnt help you
Ahh, ya got me.
I can't be sure that the watchlist has always been used as a war tool, I'll research it and get back to you, I can't even remember right now.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
384
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Posted - 2016.07.07 03:36:59 -
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Aaron wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Aaron wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Aaron wrote: The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
Oh rly? Look at thisIf you watch that vid.. old as **** 2003 I think.. Guess whats there? Yes.. the watchlist. So what did you guys do before the watchlist again? I think you are mistaken, the watchlist appeared in 2011/12 the release of Eve was 2003/4 not that specific video. Ok, I'll up you oneEdit.. changing your post didnt help you Ahh, ya got me. I can't be sure that the watchlist has always been used as a war tool, I'll research it and get back to you, I can't even remember right now.
But didn't you say something about what you guys did before watchlist, I would really like to hear that. Or dont you remember?
FYI.. I've tried to figure out when watchlist was implemented.. and the best answer was videos from back then. If anyone can verify when it was implemented it would be great.
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Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7611
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Posted - 2016.07.07 03:38:17 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:This thread is really delivering.
I bow down before the ISDs and thank them immensely for their new soft approach to moderating. A couple of years ago this thread would have been locked back on page 1.
But since it's just a small group of us arguing here, it's much appreciated that it's left open. It's very entertaining.
The moderators here are fantastic.
Don't get me wrong, I love Elite: Dangerous, it's a great game, but the moderators over on their forums are cancer compared to these guys. No idea how to build a community, banhappy as all hell, (seriously, I got banned for posting video with no text in the comment field, despite the fact that I was posting a tutorial video for a player asking for help, and the ban reason was 'chat spam'). Anyone that gets mildly 'passionate' - banned. Oh, you can also get banned for being 'argumentative', ie disagreeing with a thread. Apparently, if you post something, it becomes your own personal hugbox where only people who agree with you are allowed to chat. Works the same for any idea, but arguing on their forums is almost universally met with bans.
Honestly, of all the gaming forums I've ever participated in, these ones really set the bar. It's probably why I get banned almost everywhere else though
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4943
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Posted - 2016.07.07 05:11:00 -
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Aaron wrote:LMAO!! I'm sorry the attitudes of some seen in this thread are ridiculous.
LOL...You want structures that feed you intel?, and you want an intel tab which you can access and get live data about your war targets? in other words you want watchlist version 2.0? otherwise you'll protest by sitting in stations all day and not doing anything?
You guys should hurry up and leave the game and take Dracvlad with you. You still have a perfectly functioning system to generate PVP content and the truth is you're all just to darn lazy to go scout out your target. I hope CCP completely ignore your requests. Nothing they do will ever make you guys happy.
The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
There are faults in what you class as playing the game, some of you seem to want war targets served up with all the trimmings, and you're just angry because its not as easy as you want it to be. This game is too gangsta for you, the current generation of Eve player is a lazy one.
Actually...yeah.
Before watchlists were infallible, indestructible, and provided blanket coverage.
A structure would provide limited coverage, be destructable, and even if the targets chose not to attack the structure they can try running. And if the structures require some form of fuel...HS war dec corps will get to learn the joys of fueling structures.
Basically, it would let focused HS war decs try and claw back some of what has been taken from them via dev fiat.
And the watchlist has been around for a loooong time. I remember putting Intensity Green and Chee on my watchlist back in late 2008 (because I saw them use their DDs back when they were AoE weaposn). So, that is about 8 years.
So...too the extent that Dracvlad and I may agree on bringing back some degree of watchlist functionality...stranger things have happened.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4943
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Posted - 2016.07.07 05:13:58 -
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Aaron wrote:
With Drac I'm just tired of him thinking he is right on everything, he is 100% wrong and should just leave the game because it is too much work for him. I'm just the guy pointing out how ignorant he can be.
I will grant you this one....
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4943
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Posted - 2016.07.07 05:15:53 -
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Aaron wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Aaron wrote:Lord Razpataz wrote:Aaron wrote: The watchlist was not always a part of Eve it was a change which came quite late, 9 years I think, what do you think people were doing before that? We gathered intel as best we could, a dude got in a cov ops went to where our enemies were and reported the findings. Also we weren't afraid to fight anyone back in those days.
Oh rly? Look at thisIf you watch that vid.. old as **** 2003 I think.. Guess whats there? Yes.. the watchlist. So what did you guys do before the watchlist again? I think you are mistaken, the watchlist appeared in 2011/12 the release of Eve was 2003/4 not that specific video. Ok, I'll up you oneEdit.. changing your post didnt help you Ahh, ya got me. I can't be sure that the watchlist has always been used as a war tool, I'll research it and get back to you, I can't even remember right now.
It was, during the max campaign people would speak up on TS and note when Titan pilots were logging on....so yeah.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Geronimo McVain
McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc
130
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Posted - 2016.07.07 06:18:38 -
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A very simple solution would be, that the watchlist just works in HS. Titan pilots will not be so often in HS. And if there is something to fight over I see no reason why it shouldn't be back. If the deccers needs to defend some target it will most likely end the blanket wardeccing because you would need to defend the target all day long = no ISK gain. Limit the time for non consensual wardeccs by doubeling the price each week after the second with a 3-6 month cooldown and most of the wardecc problems will vanish. Wardeccs are a tools but they also have the ability to disrupt corp live so they have to be limited but not erased. They should focus on creating content and not being a license for robbery. |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
583
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Posted - 2016.07.07 06:26:29 -
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Geronimo McVain wrote:A very simple solution would be, that the watchlist just works in HS. Titan pilots will not be so often in HS. And if there is something to fight over I see no reason why it shouldn't be back. If the deccers needs to defend some target it will most likely end the blanket wardeccing because you would need to defend the target all day long = no ISK gain. Limit the time for non consensual wardeccs by doubeling the price each week after the second with a 3-6 month cooldown and most of the wardecc problems will vanish. Wardeccs are a tools but they also have the ability to disrupt corp live so they have to be limited but not erased. They should focus on creating content and not being a license for robbery. Do you ever stop whining?
You're like one of those people that buys near an airport and then complains that the airport should be closed down because it's too noisy. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1888
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Posted - 2016.07.07 06:31:47 -
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Aaron, are you back to smoking weed again.... You know it addles your brain and makes you come out with complete rubbish, and I giggled when I saw you start using I am a 2003 player so I know better rubbish again. Is that why you used an un-tanked T1 indy to move a Cynabal and it's fit and got ganked? Your powers as a 2003 god like being did not save you...
Lord Razpataz pointed out your watch list error and your attempt to hide it , but Aaron you remember Krullen, well he is a 2003 player too and he confirmed to me a while back that the watch list and the free intel on the map existed at the start of the game.
COHE, the Coalition of Hisec Entities is now in operation, time to make hisec work for people who operate there.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2609
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Posted - 2016.07.07 06:40:45 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Do you ever stop whining? Apparently not.
Geronimo McVain wrote:A very simple solution would be, that the watchlist just works in HS. Titan pilots will not be so often in HS. And if there is something to fight over I see no reason why it shouldn't be back. If the deccers needs to defend some target it will most likely end the blanket wardeccing because you would need to defend the target all day long = no ISK gain. Of course they wouldn't. If there ever was something the attacker had to defend, it would enjoy all the safety and vulnerability windows all the other structures have. That means they could set up easily small windows to defend their structure just like everyone else, while spending the rest of their time camping pipes and hubs farming the incompetent.
Geronimo McVain wrote:Limit the time for non consensual wardeccs by doubeling the price each week after the second with a 3-6 month cooldown and most of the wardecc problems will vanish. Not at all. Aggressors would just hop corps (much like the defenders currently do to avoid wardecs) to new corps to attack avoiding escalating fees or cooldowns. And before you suggest it, you cannot have a global limit on wardecs received as corps will just wardec each other to get immunity.
Geronimo McVain wrote: Wardeccs are a tools but they also have the ability to disrupt corp live so they have to be limited but not erased. They should focus on creating content and not being a license for robbery.
Legalized robbery is one of the purposes the tool known as the wardec can be used for. It is up to you to defend yourself from extortion and direct attempts to take your stuff. It's what makes this game interesting.
I am all for giving us new objectives and rewards to fight wars over, but the fact that someone can declare war on you to try to take your stuff is perfectly proper. Working as intended.
Why Do They Gank?
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1888
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Posted - 2016.07.07 07:48:59 -
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The Structures would need to interact with the local network, so in hisec, lowsec and NPC null local is supplied by the Empires or pirates, in sov null sec people will have to have their own local using an OS. That is how I would get around capital watching in part. So the objective would be to place your own local OS in another alliances space, but I am getting away from hisec here.
Next part the vulnerability, as I wanted the watch list OS to create a point of conflict I would suggest that it has no invulnerability period as such being always vulnerable, but they are cheap about 100m would be fine. When reinforced it will shut down and have a timer to when it comes out, it does not fulfil its function when reinforced. There can only be one active in the constellation, more than one and they overload the network so only one can be operating at anyone time and one coming out of reinforced is set to idle. Multiple ones can be left in a system / constellation and they can be left idle until needed. They will need to be probed down. I think a constellation is a good compromise, a region would be too much coverage and a single system would be too small a coverage.
They would work at a corp level, but if you are a member of an alliance it will supply intel to the alliance, the OS will be linked to the corp, so if a corp does all your Watch List OS's and leaves an alliance the alliance loses that data.
Fuel I am so so with, having to fuel them will make people a bit more likely to be specific with them which is perhaps a good thing, but is a drag, CCP have to make their mind up on that one. On balance I would go with fuel, but don't make it too much of a pain.
The key objective for me was to give hisec players something to be able to get back at, my opinion has always been that conflict will likely happen around something that has value.
It was not so much a eureka moment, but the realisation that the best conflict is over something of value and it does not just have to be ISK value.
On the hisec indy corp, the Indy structures are very important, I know you won't agree with me but a base one that can be pulled down within the 24 hours of a war dec has to exist, but the advantages it gives on yield or whatever are not as good.
There should be better ones that give better yields and bonuses, but take time to pull down beyond 24 hours. My hope is that those will be conflict drivers on the other side, but are also a major loss with decent rig drops for you to benefit from.
COHE, the Coalition of Hisec Entities is now in operation, time to make hisec work for people who operate there.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
584
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Posted - 2016.07.07 08:23:03 -
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So basically, on top of the 50 million a week wardec fee, wardeccers have to pay 100 million for a structure that they cant even use where they might need it, because someone else already has one active.
Then the structure is destroyable (whether or not it is even active), which gets back to the current situation of no intel anyway.
And it can be attacked anytime of the day, so wardec corps need to be online 24/7 just to defend.
Great balance here.
This is simply one of the dumbest suggestions for wardecs ever and the limit of one observation array is almost the exact opposite of what CCP has so far said about them (which is to have networks of them in a single system to gain broad coverage of the system).
Well, it's at least a good thing that forum numpties aren't CCP game designers. |
Teckos Pech
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Dracvlad wrote:Next part the vulnerability, as I wanted the watch list OS to create a point of conflict I would suggest that it has no invulnerability period as such being always vulnerable, but they are cheap about 100m would be fine.
No. This will not create a conflict point. What will happen is that the structure will be hit when the owner is offline. Once the strategy for this is perfected then anchoring such structures will be pointless.
There needs to be a vulnerability window that has a random component to it in terms of shifting the
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Teckos Pech
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Posted - 2016.07.07 08:28:51 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:So basically, on top of the 50 million a week wardec fee, wardeccers have to pay 100 million for a structure that they cant even use where they might need it, because someone else already has one active.
Then the structure is destroyable (whether or not it is even active), which gets back to the current situation of no intel anyway.
And it can be attacked anytime of the day, so wardec corps need to be online 24/7 just to defend.
Great balance here.
This is simply one of the dumbest and most anti-wardeccer biased suggestions ever and the limit of one observation array is almost the exact opposite of what CCP has so far said about them (which is to have networks of them in a single system to gain broad coverage of the system).
Well, it's at least a good thing that forum numpties aren't CCP game designers.
It's far from a Eureka moment. More like a Darwin award moment.
Well...it is Dracvlad what did you expect.
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