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ghosttr
Amarr The Silent Rage FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 16:23:00 -
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I wrote a post a few days ago that vanished after I wrote it, so here goes again.
The exploration in the drone regions is severely bugged. I have done well over 30 scans on tranq, and have done at least 10 scans on sisi this week. And it seems that the only explorations sites that are in the drone regions are Small Hidden Belts, and one Called 'Hierarchy' which contains small rats and several structures and there are no things that code breakers/analyzers can be used on. Out of all of the results I have only found small hidden belts about 20% of the time and the rest have been this 'hierarchy'.
I have sent in a plethora of bug reports on this ever sine i found my first 'hierarchy' back in December, and i have seen no improvement whatsoever since the initial release of revelations.
I have invested alot of skill training and isk so that i could do exploration. And I just hope ccp reads this and addresses the issue soon
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Kaar
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.05 16:24:00 -
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Maybe it's intended?
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ghosttr
Amarr The Silent Rage FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar Maybe it's intended?
Im sorry i mustnt have gotten the memo that said exploration was only available in established space, and those of us that want to explore the drone regions had better bend over
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.05 16:35:00 -
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I agree with the statement that the New Regions exploration is bugged. I have found mainly asteroid belts and the 'Hierarchy' complexes, but have also found the one with the 'Unstable Wormholes' and the one with the red 'Leaking Cylinders'. None of the complexes have any Archeology or Hacking component. None had any ability to interact or any Escalating Path. No loot of any value has ever been dropped. Prior to the last patch, you couldn't even get Salvage out of the drones you killed there.
I would dearly love to do more exploration, expecially in the New Regions. But the constant lack of anything of value has stopped others from wanting to participate. Just yesterday, I found a new Hierarcy complex near our 0.0 home....and NO ONE was at all interested in accompaning me. Usually, a new complex find generated scores of questions on what could be there, what kind of ship to bring and ultimately a gang of 10 or more that would leap at the chance. I'm afraid we've now hit the 'Boy Who Cried Wolf' scenario - no one is gonna want to do exploration until someone hauls back the head of the Drone Queen.
Please, CCP, don't let this be a planned/intended result. It will completely kill off all exploration in the New Regions.
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NeoTech
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.05 16:50:00 -
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So... are you saying you would like CCP to balance the game? So everyone gets the same chance at becoming a great and big alliance? huh?..
Dont be unrealistic... Everyone knows that CCP likes to see opportunity takers fail misserably because they want to explore new space and build outposts in new regions that costs 30bil a pop.
This has been said a million times, and CCP does what they always do. Ignore it. I would love to be wrong though. :D *hint* *hint*
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ghosttr
Amarr The Silent Rage FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 19:15:00 -
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This needs more attention, got to keep it on the front page.
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ghosttr
Amarr The Silent Rage FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.05 20:15:00 -
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New suggestion make a bump button so i don't have to add extra worthless posts to my topic so it can be seen by the right eyes.
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Berkey
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Posted - 2007.03.05 20:31:00 -
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Here is the thing: Exploration in the drone regions is bugged. Did you miss that CCP?
Also CCP is testing out their alternative ore respawning methods on us in the new drone regions without telling us, like we're some freaking lab rats or something.
Then there is the constellation wide rat respawn they are toying with putting in the rest of the game, well great but tell us that you're doing it first!
CeeCeePeeee!
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Crystalyne
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Posted - 2007.03.05 21:54:00 -
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If you think about it a bit more logically... exploration in the new regions is NOT bugged. The new regions are dominated by Drones not the traditional Gurista, Angel, Serpentis type rats. Given this, it's highly unlikely that you would find rat bases out in the new regions ... YET.
What I would expect however is a possibility of maybe finding a Drone base of some sort - But them I'm not sure why Drones would bother to store stuff in containers. And, Drones only drop alloys so no loot drops.
Perhaps in the not too distant future, as part of the backstory progression we will see some improved exploration in the new regions. But until then I think it is very consistent.
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ghosttr
Amarr The Silent Rage FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Crystalyne If you think about it a bit more logically... exploration in the new regions is NOT bugged. The new regions are dominated by Drones not the traditional Gurista, Angel, Serpentis type rats. Given this, it's highly unlikely that you would find rat bases out in the new regions ... YET.
What I would expect however is a possibility of maybe finding a Drone base of some sort - But them I'm not sure why Drones would bother to store stuff in containers. And, Drones only drop alloys so no loot drops.
Perhaps in the not too distant future, as part of the backstory progression we will see some improved exploration in the new regions. But until then I think it is very consistent.
There is more than enough backstory to say we can find exploration sites in drone regions, i think it was mentioned that the drone regions used to be inhabited by gallente and the the regions were closed off due to drone research gone bad. Also if jove once inhabited areas of great wildlands they would logically have to pass through the drone regions. So abandoned jove and gallente things could be guarded by drones, which would require hacking. And there is nothing to say that other people couldnt have inhabited there before the gallente and jove so there should be no lack of archaelogy either.
So no, there is no reason why drone regions shouldnt have good exploration sites.
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CCP Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:19:00 -
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I said something about the complex Hierarchy here
Exploration and the hacking/archeology sites are somewhat different so thats why hacking wonŠt help you in Hierarchy. It might in others but thatŠs up to the individual creator of each site.
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I said something about the complex Hierarchy here
Exploration and the hacking/archeology sites are somewhat different so thats why hacking wonŠt help you in Hierarchy. It might in others but thatŠs up to the individual creator of each site.
How about the issues with the ore spawns? They are still fubar since it was reporeted back in early december. Any word on when they will be fixed or we gonna get more heaping helpings of cold shoulder?
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CCP Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:31:00 -
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I really canŠt say anything on that because I would be answering for someone else and they wouldnŠt like that. The best I can do is recheck people are aware of the problem but whether they reply is up to them.
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ghosttr
Amarr The Silent Rage FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:13:00 -
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That still doesnt explain why the exploration in the drone regions are so poor compared to the others. I have heard of people finding datacores and other goodies from exploration sites in other regions. And that if you have the skills they can be very profitable. But I have yet to see even a profitable drone region exploration site even if you do get a escalations (and you chances of getting one are slim at best).
We need exploration hacking/archaelogy sites as well as sites that provide invention materials and materials for the manufacture of boosters. And even then we still dont have cosmos.
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Illyria Ambri
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I really canŠt say anything on that because I would be answering for someone else and they wouldnŠt like that. The best I can do is recheck people are aware of the problem but whether they reply is up to them.
Thank you for your response. Yes if you could.. please smack whomever, upside the head and tell him that his attention is required and a response would quite likely make him this months most loved Dev for fixing such a major problem
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 19:01:00 -
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Lots of stuff in the new regions is bugged, when do we get normal roid respawn? -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft. |
ghosttr
Amarr The Silent Rage FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 21:36:00 -
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I would also like to know how ccp intended for the drone regions to be equal in risk/vs reward. I think the drone regions require alot more isk and have less rewards. The drones only drop alloys which must be hauled to empire for selling, which is far more risky than getting a bounty and far less rewarding than even the base isk for rats in other regions and not even beginning to cover the regular item drops and possibility of faction drops. So 100% of the mods and ammo must be manufactured or hauled from empire which poses a greater logistics challenge and we are risking more building/hauling stuff around.
Also our asteroids are smaller and respawn differently, which makes it harder on our industrialists to get the required materials for the extra manufacturing capability required to compensate for the lack of item drops. There are also no hauler spawns which can supply a good amount of lowends as well as refining some of the item drops.
We also have a severely gimped exploration system, we have no exploration sites which provide hacking/archaelogy, nor ones that provide items for invention or the manufacture of boosters. And the exploration sites available are very poor and even if an escalation is achieved which you have a very slim chance of getting the total isk available to be made from complexes is usually only sufficient to break even for the cost of probes/ammo.
So the drone regions require more logistics, more risk, and have less opportunities and are less profitable than other regions. And if (and when) the players of the drone region become large enough to wage war we will have inferior fittings, (due to the lack of invention materials and lack of named t1 gear drops) due to an inferior region.
CCP please address these issues with the drone regions and make the regions on-par with any other region.
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Commander BlackJack
EON Order
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Posted - 2007.03.06 22:28:00 -
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/signed
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:16:00 -
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u guys are beating the wrong drum CCP are going to make the drone regions basically wortheless for invention why because when they put em in that was the idea each region had its own specalitity and it was designed to encourage trade between various regions
Tho being so close to jove space perhaps new drone invention related stuff or the chance to find named tech 2 items and a whole new invention arm could be the solution.
Or the drones could start raids into human space and bring back bits of tech ( sort of like named drone modules that drop that have new benefits like NOS boosting or other yet to be developed gameplay benefits)
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JForce
N.W.A Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:44:00 -
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/signed
It's simply a crock that this hasn't been dealt with.
Someone suggested that this is how it's supposed to be. Fine, tell me so I can move to a decent area. Opening the new regions but gimping the fck out of them makes no sense at all. |
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.07 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I really canŠt say anything on that because I would be answering for someone else and they wouldnŠt like that. The best I can do is recheck people are aware of the problem but whether they reply is up to them.
If you happen to be talking to them, then please, give them a nudge.
The new regions have been open for quite some time, and the roids are messed up. There's also problems with rats that fly out of belts at 12KM a second etc.
An answer along the lines of "We're aware of this, and it [will/won't/might] be in the next patch is better than nothing.
So give em a nudge and see if we can at least get an answer on this, there are thousands of players in the new regions.
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Zotigh
Caldari Luna Rossa Corporation The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.07 04:23:00 -
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/signed
Drone Region Resident of "The Fighting 87th!". hehe
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Gjs312
Caldari A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.07 04:26:00 -
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Just posting to reiterate that there are very real issues with the new regions that dont seem to be getting the attention they deserve. The badly bugged asteroids have been that way for months now, not to mention the issue that there are no static complexes to speak of. Please dont post up some silly roleplay scenerio about how rogue drones are different from space pirates please people, we are talking about this from a pure gameplay perspective.
Its tough enough to rat out here without bounties and no loot drops, there doesnt seem to be a good reason to make mining utterly useless and take away the billions that could be made from the 10/10 complexes that people with traditional space get. Please show us a little love up here.
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Thews Mortaza
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.03.07 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Crystalyne Given this, it's highly unlikely that you would find rat bases out in the new regions ... YET.
According to what I remember of the back-story, anyone would think drones have had more than enough time to have a nice fat strategic build-up.
Originally by: Crystalyne But them I'm not sure why Drones would bother to store stuff in containers.
Then you've never done a 2/10 or 3/10 drone complex in high-sec of any sort? They simply love storing stuff in containers.
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Turin
Caldari RONA Deepspace Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.07 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I really canŠt say anything on that because I would be answering for someone else and they wouldnŠt like that. The best I can do is recheck people are aware of the problem but whether they reply is up to them.
Then please for the LOVE OF GOD. Tell that person to give us some answers. Most of us have been VERY patient with these issues. But its beyond stupid the lack of response in ANY form over these issues. I have sent petitions on this issue, they get deleted with no response. I have sent emails. They are ignored with no response. I have made posts. they are ignore with no response.
If its someone else's job, tell them to get off their lazy a$$ and due their damn job.
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Anthal
Order's Chaos
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Posted - 2007.03.08 18:33:00 -
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I've actually resorted to going elsewhere for my ratting/money-making needs. Just grab 2-3 friends plus a hauler, head to another region, and kill the rats that actually drop modules and have bounites, plus have a chance to spawn Officers.
The drone flakes have made all high-end ores and profit in the New Regions awful. It's getting to the point that Veld and Scordite is more in-demand than anything else.
Please, give us officer spawns, rat patrols (Gisti Drone Hunters or something), complexes, anything!
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Ms E
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Posted - 2007.03.08 18:59:00 -
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Its almost amusing.
The drone regions basically drop the mineral equivelent of ISK instead of bounties. But it is all high end minerals (i guess you would need super compressed trit or a hauler to loot anything otherwise).
This has the effect that the high ends are dropping in price, which makes the ISK/ship value drop - whilst bounts stay the same. It also makes the lower minerals go up in price, because now everyone has a bountiful supply of high ends they could make big ships easy - until they ran out of low ends... (which is good for the newbie miners)
Coupled with the fact you no longer get hauler spawns... the fact that most of the new regions have at least 1 organised PvP group between you and empire... the fact that the biggest source of low ends is empire... Some corps that are deep into the new regions are now mining scord and veld. Pretty much exclusivly. You need millions of low ends to make BSs but only a few thousand high ends - the high ends are actually faster to rat than mine!
It would be nice to see some kind of hauler spawn. Heck the drones need to reproduce somehow and i'm fairly sure they'd use minerals to do it! They would also need somewhere to build themselves - perfect excuse for buildings (Drone yards and repair shops?) in a complex.
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Niedar
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.08 22:29:00 -
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Im sorry but the amount of petitions/bug reports/forums posts about these problems is just way to many to count. Every one ignored up until now, I would seriously like a responce on the astroid problem in the new regions. So whoever you have to nudge or slap please so so.
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Caletha Reborn
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Posted - 2007.03.09 12:52:00 -
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Drone space is boring, sadly enough. No officers, no special spawns (dread/true/domination), no hauler spawns. A lot of extra work involved in actually making isk (haul the alloys to empire, refine, sell, etc). Add to this the fact that I know of only 2 exploration sites (hierarchy and belts). And to add injury to insult, the high-end mineral crash means that if that continues, you cant even make more isk there then normal regions but to make the same you need to do a ton more work.
Anyways, cant move as the alliance hasnt been fighting for ages for us to just pack up and leave. So have to make due with what we have there. It would be really nice though if the content in drone regions was expanded to include more exciting stuff then just rogue drones.
Add more exploration sites (hacking/archeology/etc), add special spawns, etc. Basicly make drone space more fun !
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.09 19:25:00 -
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This needs answers.
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