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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:03:00 -
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NOS Relationship with Ushra'Khan & the buildup to QBL
We have had negative standings for a very long time. NOS & CVA will tell you that we ganked them first for
having "friends of CVA in their" Bio back when they where Huzzah Federation, our pilots will tell you that NOS
were in joint defence gangs when we went after the CVA. The truth of the matter is that nobody can really
remember anymore and and most dont care.
Huzzah used to run large roaming gangs through our space, ganking a couple of ships and then leaving before we could respond in kind. Nos have done similar to us in the past.
Before the POS assult Ushra'khan has attacked Huzzah, and then NOS when we saw them, but has never really activly persued them.
The more aggressive elements of Huzzah and nos did like to smack talk us on the forums for being incompetant, but I am told that those members are no longer around. There has been next to zero smacktalk between our two alliances in the past few months as best I can tell. (bar roleplay banter ofc)
Its also worth mentioning that at one stage NOS were after a NAP with us, we agreed 100% and were willing to set them blue. Then his happend : [link]http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=431596 There stance to us was now pretty clear.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 06/03/2007 12:07:54
Campaign : NOS Beach Head
In recent months they had been very passive, and mostly run NPC gangs. Rarely patroling into our space & generally kept out of our way (in contrast to the past where they had sent many gangs our way & joined CVA in defence of the ever expanding empire)
Then about 1 week prior to the operation we noticed nos were behaving rather differently to the norm. They had 24/7 bubble camps on the G7 Gate in QBL and instead of NRDS, they had NBSI in this dead end pocket. Something was going on.
Recon Teams were sent to investigate & they found what looked like the makings of an outpost, or possibly a super capital. Haulers were constantly buzzing around, and there was a large POS with more hanger arrays than guns! (I forget the exact amount, but there are a lot)
Given our past dealings with NOS, we could not let this opportunity slide. On Thursday 22/02/2007 A gang of 40 Ushra'khan, after avoiding combat with a similarly sized IAC gang made their way into QBL and set up a bubble camp on the G7 Gate (first gate into a dead end pocket)
We then jumped in our first POS and began assembling it, when this was onlining we the dropped in 9 Dreadnaughts and began to siege the large tower we suspected had something juicy within.
Simultaneously (or what was supposed to be Simultaneously) Our friends in IO took a 20-30 man gang into CVA space to distract them. Unfortunatly just as our dreadnaughts were entering their second cycle we got word that CVA had not taken the bait, but were instead massing a gang big enough to cause us trouble. We called IO to come help secure QBL.
IO arrived shortly before the CVA and secured the gate into PI5, as we had noticed a buildup of NOS. Then, as our dreadnaughts were entering thier 4th cycle we got word that a gang of approximatly 70 CVA, 1pg and PIE were
two jumps away. The pos shields were at about 35-38% at this stage so the decision was taken to run one more cycle.
CVA obviously still had their doubts about engaging, either that or NOS were still getting prepared, as it took them approximatly 5 more mins to get moving again.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:04:00 -
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Soon enough though, they jumped into our camp in unison, we called IO to our gate to assist in what turned out
to be a 66 VS 92 engagement, CVA had more battleships than us as our dreadnaught pilots are also our most highly
skilled battleship pilots. We had the high ground however with multiple snipers in different 150k positions, the
initial stages of the fight went extreemly well and our killboards show we killed 14 ships before taking a
single loss, then as the CVA brought in 4 front line carriers and began taking down our support and sniping off
our snipers the battle quickly turned. Under normal circumstances this would have been the point where we cut
our losses and called it a draw/victory. However some of our dreadnaughts were still in siege mode.
We stuck it out taking heavy losses until we got it confirmed that our dreadnaughts were out ok and then
retreated to our POS. Unfortunatly for Our glorious leader maggot his dread had accidently entered into another
siege cycle, he was scrambled and could not move. The remnence of our fleet got into frigates with fighters
assigned and tried in vein to save his ship, alas though it was not meant to be and his mighty Moros fell to the
"clensing Amarrian lasers"
Report from maggot is that the POS was a nats ******* away from being in reinforced.
Battle Summary for QBL-BV, 21:00 - 22:53
Assault frigate 0 3 Battlecruiser 3 4 Battleship 4 6 Capsule 7 17 Cruiser 8 7 Destroyer 2 2 Frigate 0 6 Heavy assault 1 1 Interceptor 5 1 Interdictor 0 1 Logistics 1 0 Recon ship 3 0 Dreadnought 0 1
CVA then took advantage of thier superior firepower and placed our POS into reinforced mode before returning
home.
Over the next few days we put up a few more POS, but things played out pretty much the same way. I'm going to
write these days up in more detail later, so will leave a few place holder posts to allow for a consistent
thread.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:04:00 -
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Placeholder: Ushra'khan Loses Grip
Ive run out of time on my lunchbreak, so i'll post details of this later. Suffice to say though we lost the
system and the juicy POS is still standing.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:05:00 -
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Campaign Stats:
Start Date: 2007-02-15 End Date: 2007-02-26 Runtime: 11 days (real runtime was probably about 8-9 days but the campaign stats take into account the fact
that recon before hand and straglers after)
Kills: 185 Losses: 177
Assault frigate 3/6 Battlecruiser 27/12 Battleship 28/18 Capsule 35/55 Command ship 0/3 Covert ops 5/2 Cruiser 32/20 Destroyer 4/8 Dreadnought 0/1 Frigate 8/37 Heavy assault 2/4 Industrial 7/0 Interceptor 18/8 Interdictor 5/0 Logistics 1/1 Mining barge 0/0 Mothership 0/0 Recon ship 9/2 Transport 1 1
Efficiency VS CVA: 41% Efficiency VS NOS: 71% Overal Efficiency: 57.52% (not including the three large pos (two of which we managed to get to deathstar
status))
These stats also do not include the IO losses, which were about 20-25 support in the one large fleet battle we
had, in addition to a few straglers here and there.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:05:00 -
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Recent activity More recently we have been leaving small elite gangs have a bit of fun & have sent the occasional 10-15 man gang
up if it looked like a fight was possible. Things have been going extreemly well and we have noticed that
overall activity in NOS space has dramaticly fallen, with few reponse gangs being formed to meet us. That being
said, a fairly sizeable gang of cruisers was spotted in G7 last night so there is hope for future encounters!
Recent stats (Since the Beach Head)
Kills: 65 Losses: 10 Damage done (ISK): 2945.33M Damage received (ISK): 717.25M Runtime: 8 days Efficiency: 80.42%
Battlecruiser 13/2 Battleship 13/0 Capsule 10/3 Covert ops 1/0 Cruiser 7/0 Destroyer 2/0 Frigate 2/1 Heavy assault 3/1 Industrial 8/0 Interceptor 1/1 Recon ship 2/2 Shuttle 1/0
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:06:00 -
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Overall Stats(As far back as our KB allows)
Kills: 336 Losses: 102 Damage done (ISK): 13836.31M Damage received (ISK): 2969.1M Efficiency: 82.33%
Assault frigate 12/5 Battlecruiser 47/9 Battleship 65/9 Capsule 71/29 Carrier 1/0 Command ship 1/1 Covert ops 10/1 Cruiser 54/6 Destroyer 4/1 Dreadnought 0/1 Frigate 18/26 Heavy assault 4/3 Industrial 20/1 Interceptor 14/8 Interdictor 4/0 Mining barge 0/0 Mothership 0/0 Recon ship 6/3 Shuttle 2/0 Transport 1/0
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:07:00 -
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copy + paste has really screwed up, now its all there i'll sort the formatting
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:16:00 -
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This is vidoe was put together by me a week or so ago and relates to what Eddie is posting about... You may already have seen it of you frequent the video section.
http://eve-files.com/dl/90033 ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
AMARR VICTOR |
Huge Ox
UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:32:00 -
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Nice report sounds like your having fun
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BCBArclight
Odessa Operations Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:04:00 -
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Nice Write up, I would like to make a reply but bit busy atm, will edit this later with a responce :)
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Solusar
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 14:18:00 -
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Im going to contest the figure of 40% vs CVA considering we lost 5 bs total compared to the 14 we killed along with the dreadnaught. Ill mail you the figures from the CVA side of things ingame.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 14:28:00 -
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I'm not sure how it works out efficiency, it might be on points rather than isk. i'll look at our killboard to find out.
Do you want me to post the individual CVA stats for the campaign to compare?
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Simon Illian
Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.06 14:41:00 -
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Love you'r report, appear unbiased.
You have fun, have pew pew.
But .. a moros ? not a nag ?
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 14:46:00 -
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Our dread fleet was mostly Nags, moros was one of the only non minmatar dreads present.
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Ugleb
Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 14:49:00 -
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I'm pretty sure our Killboard works off a points system . Having said that the kill point values are set by us (we may place a different value on a given ship class, dunno) and I believe we are looking to re-evaluate some of the isk values the board is current using. It's a rough guide only.
Originally by: Simon Illian But .. a moros ? not a nag ?
The better engineered Minmatar ships are harder to kill.
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Equinox Daedalus
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 06/03/2007 14:49:33 Mr. Gordo,
Far be it from me to note that during the 3 pos engaments where CVA feilded minimalist capital ships and utterly no response from UK at all, I would like to disagree that during the whole time frame of the engagement, you and your allies hid, and at best, fighterbombed a few random times after the inital Jump-in into your defensive postion, where we would of course take casulaties.
However imagine ACSN posting "well we put up some towers in a bob system, got our fleet guarding the system killed, lost a dread, then lost our 3 towers without being able to do anything about it"
Sounds about right to Me.
Keep up the fight thou
(edited for grammer)
The Legion of Spoon Upon wings of wax I fly, never to close to the sun [/center] |
Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 14:58:00 -
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Equinox, if you had actualy read the post from begining to end you would see I havent written that bit up yet.
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Equinox Daedalus
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 06/03/2007 15:06:43 Well I would post the whole story 1st then, rather then going on listing ratios etc. Would make a bit more sense.
And I did indeed think it was a nice write up, just wished you would tell the whole story rather then just the "good uk parts" But if your not finished I'll let you do so but try to tell the story and less stats.
Personally I care less about killratios then I do about the final outcome. Which was by the way, Amarr Victor!
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Plymer Ization
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.06 15:06:00 -
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Nice write up, seems impartial to either side for the most part.
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Faerath
Caldari Noshikkan Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.03.06 15:11:00 -
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Nice write-up.
I'm afraid most of us don't enter their data on the new kill board yet, so it's hard to compare the figures =/
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Elliott Manchild
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 15:14:00 -
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Very well writen, seems very unbias hope you are all having fun \o/
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Centurin
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.06 16:22:00 -
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Sounds like fun engagements. Thanks for the write up. ----------------------------------------------- "It's great playing Caldari Online, isn't it?" by Xori Ruscuv
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.06 16:23:00 -
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Good write up on your second expedition to that space, nice to see some familiar faces in this thread.
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:01:00 -
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The initial engagement was challenging. Having to siege two or three more towers that were put up during the off-hours and were then left undefended was not. It all looked much like a test of the Amarrian resolve, which was unbroken throughout the campaign as usual.
I really admire the dedication of those pilots who made themselves available for all takedowns. That's what really separates the Amarr loyalist elite from the rabble. It is always good to see 50 pilots scramble within 20 minutes to defend the Empire, willing to put their lives on the line for Emperor and their comrades.
Amarr Victor indeed.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:04:00 -
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this is an OOC forum tharrn, try not to blurr the lines.
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:27:00 -
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CAOD, CAOS. Somehow they all look alike :/
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Cythrawl
Caldari Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:30:00 -
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UK and the duct-tape ships ftw!
Seriously though... I blame alot of the all-time stats on NOS on Fleshdiver.
Good to see you guys starting to beat some heads after we left, even though we're back south again.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:41:00 -
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Terrific write-up, Eddie. It is a common misconception that the war between CVA and U'K is a cute little rp thing in its own little sandbox...but it's fast paced and rough, plenty of casualties to go around, with allies on either side. Surely not as significant a war as "the big one" that's cooking off all around us, but no less real.
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Mah Kraah
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:46:00 -
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i think to prevent ribble rabble discussions of we had this u had that etc and to clarifie balance in the engagement from the gate battle to the dread kill: U'K 1 Dread, 6 Carriers, 11 BS, 2 CS,5 BC, 40 support. total, 64
Amarr coalition 5 carriers, 33 BS, 2 CS,17 BC, 33 support. total 90 this numbers are taken from killboard and it lists all ships involved in kill or loss mails . deciding factor was the amarr coalition responded so fast. it was planed to get the pos into siege and ours armed and ready bevore we have to face the full amarr wrath and than beeing able to do strikes and retreat to pos or fight with the support of the pos guns to get the upperhand. cva and its allys where able to ralley a superior force and get it into the battleground system in less than 50 minutes after we started to operation and therefor spoiling our plan, 2 guns online only dont do the trick :-) , verry much respect for that
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