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Amy Small
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Amy Small on 06/03/2007 12:36:28 Here is why
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=390757
A goonfleet member with his GTC selling thread, boasting 1200+ GTC sold so far!
And i've seen other members of goons selling lots of GTC aswell.
How many 100s of billions have you made from ccp's rather shady buy isk for cash system so far? Where might goons be now if GTC for isk never existed? Would goons even exist? Would you have just bought all this isk from E-bay instead?
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Kassidus
Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:41:00 -
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I have no comment on this , as I rely On GTC's to play this game myself but what i want to know who has $36,000 (give or take) to buy time cards to sell ? where does that kind of disposable income come from?
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JForce
N.W.A Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:42:00 -
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1) IBTL
2) You have to do something when devs don't just give you T2 BPOs. GTCs at least are legal
3) You don't deserve your own thread |
Bistot Kid
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:42:00 -
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Personally I think anything <> ISK stinks, but while this remains CCP sanctioned, we'll just have to live with it, won't we?
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Amy Small
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:44:00 -
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Please note i am not in any way involved with goonfleet or their enemies, or any 0.0 alliance infact. I'm just pointing something out which i think CCP should be ashamed about.
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Amy Small
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:47:00 -
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I calculate he must have bought around 400 billion isk using the GTC system.
400 bill! The kind of impact that has on a game is huge, that kind of isk gives the goons the power to do whatever they want. That is also just from one goon member, there are other members that sell quite a few GTC aswell.
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Alura Abode
Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:47:00 -
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its quite common knowledge they fund their alliance with GTC sales. They have referal links on their website through which a lot of members but GTCs from that cash they buy GTCs they sell again.
For example check shattered crystal they even have a referal link on their site to point people to goonfleet on account of the amount of business they bring in. http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/thankyou.php
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Small I calculate he must have bought around 400 billion isk using the GTC system.
400 bill! The kind of impact that has on a game is huge, that kind of isk gives the goons the power to do whatever they want. That is also just from one goon member, there are other members that sell quite a few GTC aswell.
400B is chicken feed the avearge player has 140m at last dev offical post in ISK.
140m x 120000 active accounts well the sums are large looking at at least 500 trillion ISK 400B Is chicken feed
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:49:00 -
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You realize that the guy in question is most likely a reseller of cards. That way for all we know may have spent $0 on the cards and simply had to buy one card at the start selling it higher, rinse and repeat 1200 times.
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sakana
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:51:00 -
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who are you? and why should you get your own thread? ------------
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Amy Small
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Alura Abode its quite common knowledge they fund their alliance with GTC sales. They have referal links on their website through which a lot of members but GTCs from that cash they buy GTCs they sell again.
For example check shattered crystal they even have a referal link on their site to point people to goonfleet on account of the amount of business they bring in. http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/thankyou.php
Don't you think something is somewhat wrong with that? I find it utterly ridiuclous that an entire alliance is funding themselves with real life cash, but not just any alliance, it's the biggest alliance in all of EVE. You see people make predictions about how a year or so down the line Goonfleet will be an unstoppable force, that could possibly be true, but they will have earned that power via cheating, sure ccp allow it so offically it's not a cheat, but technically they are buying isk for cash. They are using their real life wealth to become the most powerful alliance in all of EVE.
I am disgusted.
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eeevans
J.H.E.N.R Pure.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:52:00 -
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amy, did you melt your keys with those bitter, bitter fingers?
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Bistot Kid
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: sakana who are you? and why should you get your own thread?
What do you mean I don't pay my bills? Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?
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JForce
N.W.A Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Small
Originally by: Alura Abode its quite common knowledge they fund their alliance with GTC sales. They have referal links on their website through which a lot of members but GTCs from that cash they buy GTCs they sell again.
For example check shattered crystal they even have a referal link on their site to point people to goonfleet on account of the amount of business they bring in. http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/thankyou.php
Don't you think something is somewhat wrong with that? I find it utterly ridiuclous that an entire alliance is funding themselves with real life cash, but not just any alliance, it's the biggest alliance in all of EVE. You see people make predictions about how a year or so down the line Goonfleet will be an unstoppable force, that could possibly be true, but they will have earned that power via cheating, sure ccp allow it so offically it's not a cheat, but technically they are buying isk for cash. They are using their real life wealth to become the most powerful alliance in all of EVE.
I am disgusted.
Take your ass on home then. Can I have your stuff? |
eeevans
J.H.E.N.R Pure.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Bistot Kid
Originally by: sakana who are you? and why should you get your own thread?
What do you mean I don't pay my bills? Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?
if there's a new way, i'll be the first in line.... :)
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Reeperman
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Small
Originally by: Alura Abode its quite common knowledge they fund their alliance with GTC sales. They have referal links on their website through which a lot of members but GTCs from that cash they buy GTCs they sell again.
For example check shattered crystal they even have a referal link on their site to point people to goonfleet on account of the amount of business they bring in. http://www.shatteredcrystal.com/thankyou.php
Don't you think something is somewhat wrong with that? I find it utterly ridiuclous that an entire alliance is funding themselves with real life cash, but not just any alliance, it's the biggest alliance in all of EVE. You see people make predictions about how a year or so down the line Goonfleet will be an unstoppable force, that could possibly be true, but they will have earned that power via cheating, sure ccp allow it so offically it's not a cheat, but technically they are buying isk for cash. They are using their real life wealth to become the most powerful alliance in all of EVE.
I am disgusted.
You could always take their space off them, which BTW they fought for..
Oh and IBTL.
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Nero Scuro
Caldari Jejaikaro Corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:25:00 -
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If you took the love child of Boy George and Paul O'Grady, made it listen to the village people for 3 consecutive months then dressed it in pink, gave it a camp haircut and asked it to sing 'Its raining men' you wouldn't even begin to come close to how *** Goonfleet is.
Isk for cash is just wrong, and this flies straight in the face of CCP's "but GTC>ISK isn't bad because you can't earn a lot of ISK from it" excuse. Ban it already CCP! ___
Nice one CCP |
Nero Scuro
Caldari Jejaikaro Corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 06/03/2007 13:27:52 If you took the love child of Boy George and Paul O'Grady, made it listen to the village people for 3 consecutive months then dressed it in pink, gave it a camp haircut and asked it to sing 'Its raining men' you wouldn't even begin to come close to how *** Goonfleet is.
Isk for cash is just wrong, and this flies straight in the face of CCP's "but GTC>ISK isn't bad because you can't earn a lot of ISK from it" excuse. Ban it already CCP! ___
Nice one CCP |
Ariel Dawn
SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Small I calculate he must have bought around 400 billion isk using the GTC system.
400 bill! The kind of impact that has on a game is huge, that kind of isk gives the goons the power to do whatever they want. That is also just from one goon member, there are other members that sell quite a few GTC aswell.
Oh? And what about all the people in major alliances who lives off of selling ISK from their T2 BPOs and renting of space to other groups? Having many important players online 23/7 because they have no jobs outside of EVE is huge.
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:31:00 -
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What exactly is this post full of rhetoric meant to achieve?
You know an alliance that has no people who've traded GTC? I thought not.
If you dont think they deserve their space, we look forward to watching you attempt to conquer it.
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Trishtan DeMore
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:40:00 -
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Well, it's fine with me, actually. GTC can't buy skillpoints =)
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Small I calculate he must have bought around 400 billion isk using the GTC system.
400 bill! The kind of impact that has on a game is huge, that kind of isk gives the goons the power to do whatever they want. That is also just from one goon member, there are other members that sell quite a few GTC aswell.
Dont want to get involded in any flame wars but BOB's methods arent exactly above the belt either.
Originally by: Blind Man okies so liek when u warp in on them u shod target them... and stuff k.then u FIRE ZE MISSILES
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Trishtan DeMore Well, it's fine with me, actually. GTC can't buy skillpoints =)
Naive much ? "WTB: xx mil SP PvP char, bla bla". GTC -> ISK -> SP _ MySkills | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained |
Amy Small
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Trishtan DeMore Well, it's fine with me, actually. GTC can't buy skillpoints =)
Yes they can, if you sell 20x 90 day gtc for about 6-7 bill, you can then buy around a 35m SP character with that isk. Characters are sold on the forums for about 200m per million skillpoints. So yes, GTC not only buys skillpoints, but entirely trained characters aswell.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:50:00 -
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IBTL \o/ --------
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:51:00 -
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Please don't mix in-game politics and things like this. Thread locked.
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Amy Small
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Posted - 2007.03.06 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sinder Ohm
Originally by: Amy Small I calculate he must have bought around 400 billion isk using the GTC system.
400 bill! The kind of impact that has on a game is huge, that kind of isk gives the goons the power to do whatever they want. That is also just from one goon member, there are other members that sell quite a few GTC aswell.
Dont want to get involded in any flame wars but BOB's methods arent exactly above the belt either.
We all know about what happend with the dev in bob, all to much, this isn't a thread about bob, this thread is to discuss why should any alliance be able to fund their entire war effort purely from real life cash? GM Guard made that blog about how EVE is a level playing field, that's a total and utter lie. I suppose you could say it's level if you look at it from the perspective that everyone has the chance to buy isk with real life money using GTC, but that's not what his blog implies, his blog implies that real life money should not have to much of an effect on game, yes, i know it's niave to think your real life doesn't effect your ingame life, of course it does, but now it's to the extent that people with money to spend are fueling themselves by it, the biggest alliance in EVE is fueled by it!
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