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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
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Posted - 2016.07.09 15:26:31 -
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Greetings fellows,
I direct this message to those who have money they can invest and not afraid of losing. Knowing that EVE is full of scammers, I propose a collective of traders that will embark on a economic journey (within EULA) to make some cash. We require at least 50 traders who had prior experience with market and posses basic knowledge on eve economy, trade and producton.
Also these players will require a minimum of 10 billion ISK, if you have more, better for you. When collective is gathered we will start phase two which is execution of economic operations. Everyone will have a clear goal and everyone will have the same goal to achieve and same tasks.
The only requirement is that everyone follows the plan as everyone else or it will fail for those who want to get rich and it will fail for those who think they are smarter than everybody else.
I am still not sure whether I should enforce a 3 billion ISK guarantess that everyone will have to pay to any escrow service you trust, in case you fail by sabotaging collective and our plan your part will be given through lottery or quest to remaining collective players 1 or 2 members max.
As soon as we get to phase two, I will share the plan in detail and will distribute tasks to everyone in the collective.
The process can take up to six weeks.
If you feel like you want to hop off somewhere in the middle, be sure you are not fit for this.
I know that after "EVE bank" trust in players is below zero but you will use your funds on assets you can easily sell with minimum loss in returns, this is in case the system will be hijacked by any "smart ass" member of the collective who will decide t dump everyone else.
I warn those individuals that think that they can free ride - you can't and if you try you will fail to achieve anything.
About me: I have experience with real market operations and hedging. That should be enough for now. If you are interested, write me in game mail so that I can add you to the channel. Channel has password. I can answer some, not all questions, for the sake of enterprise.
Cheers
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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Bobb Bobbington
Bros Before Holes The Devils' Rejects
328
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Posted - 2016.07.09 16:43:56 -
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If this is even real, let me see...
Trying to keep your plan unknown Need lots of capital Investors will be mostly buying assets Investors will lose escrow if they "don't follow the plan" Not allowed to back out mid-operation
Now, just let me take a shot in the dark here... Large scale market manipulations?
This is a signature.
It has a 25m signature.
No it's not a cosmic signature.
Probably.
Btw my corp's recruiting.
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morion
Lighting Build
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Posted - 2016.07.09 17:08:05 -
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Better yet how about you invest your own isk and I will pretend to care. |
William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
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Posted - 2016.07.09 21:57:32 -
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Bobb Bobbington wrote:If this is even real, let me see...
Trying to keep your plan unknown Need lots of capital Investors will be mostly buying assets Investors will lose escrow if they "don't follow the plan" Not allowed to back out mid-operation
Now, just let me take a shot in the dark here... Large scale market manipulations?
The plan is known for those who sign up. the plan is hard not to follow, as only blind fool will disregard such activity. Manipulation? Dear god, if it always was that easy we wouldn't have economics studied in unviersitites. If you are interested feel free to PM. You are not the first to wonder, and as always I will take my time explaining. This post is more of an advert for those who see beyong EVE scammy history.
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.09 21:58:37 -
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morion wrote:Better yet how about you invest your own isk and I will pretend to care.
I do so, just like everyone else in the collective. Don't worry I don't need your money, I need your buying power on which we all can profit proportionally to our buying power.
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
911
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Posted - 2016.07.10 00:41:14 -
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I think you need more experience in EVE before you start telling others what to do.
You look very desperate when you link your thread in multiple others, since MD is very slow it's not like anyone who posts here will miss this. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
5854
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Posted - 2016.07.10 03:34:38 -
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From one scammer to another, some advice.
Work on your post and build some credibility before posting it.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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0000000000ZERO0000000000
Zero Zentharis
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Posted - 2016.07.10 08:26:36 -
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In my opinion, if you have to say "this is not an eve bank", its a scam. |
The Fukuzawa
New Eden Trade Group
6
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Posted - 2016.07.10 09:06:51 -
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Sign me up |
William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.10 09:19:08 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:I think you need more experience in EVE before you start telling others what to do.
You look very desperate when you link your thread in multiple others, since MD is very slow it's not like anyone who posts here will miss this.
Wew lads, that is some serious mishandling of brainia capacity. Yes, well if I want something I tend to do everything to make it work.
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.10 09:21:05 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:From one scammer to another, some advice.
Work on your post and build some credibility before posting it.
Credibility? This is not a scam, I am no escrow or any third party baby game. This post is to call attention, details which are not to be made public will not be such. Work on my post? If the post says nothing to you than you are not ft for it. More likely you are fit to detect scammers in local and report bots if they annoy you. Cheez people are really off the route nowadays.
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.10 09:24:39 -
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0000000000ZERO0000000000 wrote:In my opinion, if you have to say "this is not an eve bank", its a scam.
So EVE bank was so successful that it ended we know why. Please, world is not black and white, no a EVE bank is not a scam either. Wew I see the scammers are taking the ground as ou see only them nowadays. How many easily manipulatable people, really makes you think. t.scammer to be
Better?
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.10 09:25:34 -
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The Fukuzawa wrote:Sign me up
PM me in game, I will give details at this stage, if you are interested i ll get you together with others.
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
912
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Posted - 2016.07.10 10:43:49 -
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William Legrand-Marx wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:I think you need more experience in EVE before you start telling others what to do.
You look very desperate when you link your thread in multiple others, since MD is very slow it's not like anyone who posts here will miss this. Wew lads, that is some serious mishandling of brainia capacity. Yes, well if I want something I tend to do everything to make it work.
I may not be smart, but I do know how to make ISK and I can tell you do not.
William Legrand-Marx wrote:The Fukuzawa wrote:Sign me up PM me in game, I will give details at this stage, if you are interested i ll get you together with others.
This is a match made in heaven . |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
912
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Posted - 2016.07.10 11:50:09 -
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William Legrand-Marx wrote:The Fukuzawa wrote:Sign me up PM me in game, I will give details at this stage, if you are interested i ll get you together with others.
I am sure The Fukuzawa can assist you in your marketing attempts as well
Fluffy Bunny Pic!
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
914
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Posted - 2016.07.10 13:56:50 -
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In an absolutely shocking turn of events, the OP starts talking trash and scamming .
http://imgur.com/a/1SiIL |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2016.07.10 17:03:19 -
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Detective Norn on the case again. |
Sella Lesbon
Three-legged Dogs Worlds United Fedo Force
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Posted - 2016.07.11 10:23:51 -
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Sounds like station(citadel) seeding plan.
> Never do something to someone that you wouldn't like to be done to yourself.
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virm pasuul
The Congregation No Handlebars.
394
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Posted - 2016.07.11 10:34:08 -
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I am disappointed in the poor quality of this scam. Where have all the good scammers gone? |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
917
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Posted - 2016.07.11 11:30:36 -
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virm pasuul wrote:I am disappointed in the poor quality of this scam. Where have all the good scammers gone?
Prison, the Icelandic ones anyway. |
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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.11 17:39:15 -
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Hey I am just trying to be like you guys Should I spam links from CCP econ monthly review on eve economy like you greatly did thinking I am completely unaware of what I talk. Giving me Lennie's story. Here look, this is an econ paper and it says volume is quadrillion isk therefore unicorns. As I told you more, paranoidal tendency reigned supreme and you told me to do other things. You massively tried to suggest what should be my moves to collect people yet disregarding what I said about my prior experience. Also suggesting to start a casino scam or to trade for years was not one of your brilliant ideas, I am sure you can do better. Also, "the scamming" came from the need to verify market tendency, a small reality check on behaviour, and your reaction is part of it.
Do you really think that people that do illegal market operations(not talking about scam) really do so to profit from it? Well some do because they think they are smarter than everyone but some do so to evaluate unknown market or people or to scare off certain individuals, corporations. If you read carefully into the market manipulation and how it is done you will see what I mean, if you are even interested. Oh yes, I intend to do more in different ways because it shows players dynamics(not necesserely scams in it's sense until you lable one like that). People who know little call it scam until you tell them what it is about and then their words is quote"keep me in touch, when you get necessary people contact me" - literally everyone is doing that now.
Have you never heard of game theory? My methods might induce people into questioning, which is good thing but beforehand they must be unaware of the sampling for genuine response. This is not just some big names throwing, I mean the reasons behind certain actions have motives. Do you really think I need a PLEX?
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.11 17:41:28 -
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Sella Lesbon wrote:Sounds like station(citadel) seeding plan.
Citadel is not in the plan. It is too broad concept to use for activities which require global awareness and control over market tendencies. In other words, too small to have effect. Fleet of citadels... maybe, but that is not in initial stages if you to remain for more cycles, it might be an attempt.
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.11 17:43:33 -
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Bobb Bobbington wrote:If this is even real, let me see...
Trying to keep your plan unknown Need lots of capital Investors will be mostly buying assets Investors will lose escrow if they "don't follow the plan" Not allowed to back out mid-operation
Now, just let me take a shot in the dark here... Large scale market manipulations?
Also better:
Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide No escape from reality Open your eyes Look up to the skies and see I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy Because I'm easy come, easy go A little high, little low Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, to me
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
0
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Posted - 2016.07.11 17:48:21 -
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virm pasuul wrote:I am disappointed in the poor quality of this scam. Where have all the good scammers gone?
I wonder how you see no sarcasm in the scam. I mean, purely greedy and unattentive person will fall for it or just the luck? There is no such thing. Scam is utterly a test of players.
EVE scammers created a high level of paranoia in those who are naive and fearsome. They infected those who posses some brain to spot the scam which inhibits me from progressing. Since I haven't been here for a while I wanted to confirm it and it looks like you have people literally exposing scams. New leap in last 7 years I must say.
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
917
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Posted - 2016.07.11 20:34:41 -
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William Legrand-Marx wrote:Hey I am just trying to be like you guys Should I spam links from CCP econ monthly review on eve economy like you greatly did thinking I am completely unaware of what I talk. Giving me Lennie's story. Here look, this is an econ paper and it says volume is quadrillion isk therefore unicorns. As I told you more, paranoidal tendency reigned supreme and you told me to do other things. You massively tried to suggest what should be my moves to collect people yet disregarding what I said about my prior experience. Also suggesting to start a casino scam or to trade for years was not one of your brilliant ideas, I am sure you can do better. Also, "the scamming" came from the need to verify market tendency, a small reality check on behaviour, and your reaction is part of it. Do you really think that people that do illegal market operations(not talking about scam) really do so to profit from it? Well some do because they think they are smarter than everyone but some do so to evaluate unknown market or people or to scare off certain individuals, corporations. If you read carefully into the market manipulation and how it is done you will see what I mean, if you are even interested. Oh yes, I intend to do more in different ways because it shows players dynamics(not necesserely scams in it's sense until you lable one like that). People who know little call it scam until you tell them what it is about and then their words is quote"keep me in touch, when you get necessary people contact me" - literally everyone is doing that now. Have you never heard of game theory? My methods might induce people into questioning, which is good thing but beforehand they must be unaware of the sampling for genuine response. This is not just some big names throwing, I mean the reasons behind certain actions have motives. Do you really think I need a PLEX?
I was trying to help you out in our conversation, because at the moment you're making yourself look like a fool. As I said before, your real life experience is irrelevant here, all that matters is what happens in EVE, and you've made it very clear you don't know what you're talking about. Your scam didn't work because it's a terrible one which requires spamming 23/7 for several days to catch someone who is drunk/asleep enough with a specific item in the hangar to fall for it.
There are all manner of reasons for why people scam, I would guess that ISK is a big one, especially for those spamming or botting in Jita. I can tell you think you're smarter than all of us, we won't know for sure I guess, but it sure looks like the DunningGÇôKruger effect.
I'd guess game theory would dictate that you don't make terrible posts like this.
William Legrand-Marx wrote: I wonder how you see no sarcasm in the scam. I mean, purely greedy and unattentive person will fall for it or just the luck? There is no such thing. Scam is utterly a test of players.
EVE scammers created a high level of paranoia in those who are naive and fearsome. They infected those who posses some brain to spot the scam which inhibits me from progressing. Since I haven't been here for a while I wanted to confirm it and it looks like you have people literally exposing scams. New leap in last 7 years I must say.
Ya know this is the internet, right? It's hard to read sarcasm from this:-
Quote:William Legrand-Marx > 30 Day Pilot's License Extention (PLEX)
The only thing preventing your from progressing is yourself. |
William Legrand-Marx
LUX AETERNA INT RUST415
2
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Posted - 2016.07.11 20:56:56 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:William Legrand-Marx wrote:Hey I am just trying to be like you guys Should I spam links from CCP econ monthly review on eve economy like you greatly did thinking I am completely unaware of what I talk. Giving me Lennie's story. Here look, this is an econ paper and it says volume is quadrillion isk therefore unicorns. As I told you more, paranoidal tendency reigned supreme and you told me to do other things. You massively tried to suggest what should be my moves to collect people yet disregarding what I said about my prior experience. Also suggesting to start a casino scam or to trade for years was not one of your brilliant ideas, I am sure you can do better. Also, "the scamming" came from the need to verify market tendency, a small reality check on behaviour, and your reaction is part of it. Do you really think that people that do illegal market operations(not talking about scam) really do so to profit from it? Well some do because they think they are smarter than everyone but some do so to evaluate unknown market or people or to scare off certain individuals, corporations. If you read carefully into the market manipulation and how it is done you will see what I mean, if you are even interested. Oh yes, I intend to do more in different ways because it shows players dynamics(not necesserely scams in it's sense until you lable one like that). People who know little call it scam until you tell them what it is about and then their words is quote"keep me in touch, when you get necessary people contact me" - literally everyone is doing that now. Have you never heard of game theory? My methods might induce people into questioning, which is good thing but beforehand they must be unaware of the sampling for genuine response. This is not just some big names throwing, I mean the reasons behind certain actions have motives. Do you really think I need a PLEX? I was trying to help you out in our conversation, because at the moment you're making yourself look like a fool. As I said before, your real life experience is irrelevant here, all that matters is what happens in EVE, and you've made it very clear you don't know what you're talking about. Your scam didn't work because it's a terrible one which requires spamming 23/7 for several days to catch someone who is drunk/asleep enough with a specific item in the hangar to fall for it. There are all manner of reasons for why people scam, I would guess that ISK is a big one, especially for those spamming or botting in Jita. I can tell you think you're smarter than all of us, we won't know for sure I guess, but it sure looks like the DunningGÇôKruger effect. I'd guess game theory would dictate that you don't make terrible posts like this. William Legrand-Marx wrote: I wonder how you see no sarcasm in the scam. I mean, purely greedy and unattentive person will fall for it or just the luck? There is no such thing. Scam is utterly a test of players.
EVE scammers created a high level of paranoia in those who are naive and fearsome. They infected those who posses some brain to spot the scam which inhibits me from progressing. Since I haven't been here for a while I wanted to confirm it and it looks like you have people literally exposing scams. New leap in last 7 years I must say.
Ya know this is the internet, right? It's hard to read sarcasm from this:- Quote:William Legrand-Marx > 30 Day Pilot's License Extention (PLEX) The only thing preventing your from progressing is yourself.
Surely, I am the guy who knows nothing of what happens in EVE yet I am superior to everyone. I am afraid, you are wrong. More to it, you make assumptions based on what you do yourself. Just by denegrating yourself with everyone else doesn't make people stand with you against me, unless they fall for such fallacies. If you really think that I would tell everything in a go to an unknown person right away, you are sadly mistaken and most probably you saw that in my post and n the convo. Game theory, dear person, works fine with those who tend to oversee and be hasty. Post, convo, what I said, what I did, whom I joined, it can all be part of the game or not be part of it at all, and that is the game. Some like playing with ships, some like playing with minds. The great lie is that it either never happened or happened to make you think it really happened or it didn't.
What if I pretended to be Dunning-Kruger guy, so that people like you can show what they really know and can, so that I know whether I should cooperate with you or not? You will never know, or maybe will. What I know is that I will keep doing my thing and when the time comes you tell me if I am still playing or acting straightforward.
You can never have the truth but you can get as close as possible to the truth, unless the truth you think you are close to is just another man's illusion to deviate you from "the truth".
Fly safe o7
P.S.: Delusions of grandeur? You must be C3PO then...
There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...
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The Fukuzawa
New Eden Trade Group
6
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Posted - 2016.07.11 21:11:48 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Wew lads, that is some serious mishandling of brainia capacity. Yes, well if I want something I tend to do everything to make it work.
I may not be smart, but I do know how to make ISK and I can tell you do not. William Legrand-Marx wrote:The Fukuzawa wrote:Sign me up PM me in game, I will give details at this stage, if you are interested i ll get you together with others. This is a match made in heaven .
...exactly why we chose not to work with you when you approached us about investing in the past. It was cute that you created an alt to contact us again when we didn't get back to you lol |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
917
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Posted - 2016.07.11 21:27:13 -
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The Fukuzawa wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Wew lads, that is some serious mishandling of brainia capacity. Yes, well if I want something I tend to do everything to make it work.
I may not be smart, but I do know how to make ISK and I can tell you do not. William Legrand-Marx wrote:The Fukuzawa wrote:Sign me up PM me in game, I will give details at this stage, if you are interested i ll get you together with others. This is a match made in heaven . ...exactly why we chose not to work with you when you approached us about investing in the past. It was cute that you created an alt to contact us again when we blew you off lol
Was it the soft trolling, or that you didn't want to get called out like this?
I honestly don't remember using any alts to talk to you though, if you told me the name I'd be able to confirm it wasn't me, at least to myself. |
The Fukuzawa
New Eden Trade Group
6
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Posted - 2016.07.11 21:37:26 -
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I won't bother, getting contacted for help by one of the biggest fools on the forums with their main toon was good enough for me.
As far as getting "called out" perhaps you should present some evidence that supports your argument? Oh wait, forum idiots just run their digits and say whatever without any evidence to back up their claims, I forgot what you are for a moment.
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
570
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Posted - 2016.07.11 21:49:18 -
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Wow, this is so bad that nobody has even jokingly pledged 20 billion ISK.
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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