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Trevor Dalech
Absolute Obedience Resonance.
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Posted - 2016.07.11 07:01:57 -
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The advantage of positive sec status is that you look like a care bear. Then, if you rat in low sec systems, people will warp to you and get blown up. This is fun! (It's also fun if you get blown up yourself after a good fight!)
I had a lot more people picking fights with me back when I was +2 or +3 than now that I am -8... Now I have to go and look for fun instead of having fun come to me.
That, and travelling through high-sec is a lot less cumbersome if you have positive sec. But who cares about high-sec anyways... |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1421
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Posted - 2016.07.11 07:45:47 -
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Durban Kronic wrote:... It just seems to me like we should be getting a significant bounty increase or enhanced drop rate, something that impacts mission runners in a way that keeps them in hisec forever.
Holy balls just no.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Memphis Baas
1694
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Posted - 2016.07.11 12:18:31 -
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Maybe we could get just a lot more praise that includes the word "amazing", and maybe a plaque or two, and the free eyeglasses and our name and mug posted on the big screen TV's (like that guy in the citadels trailer), if we're the biggest carebear with the most missions completed, or whatever. |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
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Posted - 2016.07.11 18:21:40 -
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Celeste Coeval wrote:To you.
Ralph KG doesn't farm likes. His good mind, pithy/appropriate words, and good insight get him those likes. Comments denigrating him sound far more like jealousy than wisdom, which when Ralph is sober is usually what he dispenses. When he's not so sober, he's generally on target with the sarcasm, it's kind of a double edged sword that works well for him.
Some people may always click like on his comments just because it's him, however, that's because he's likely helped them in the past and given freely of his time and energy to assist people in playing the game. He's done this with me, and many others on these boards.
(removed for reading page 2, which I had missed... drat! I was feeling feisty!)
As to the positive security status, I like mine that way. This latest event has been quite the booster to it.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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W33b3l
Conquest and Kittens
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Posted - 2016.07.12 01:27:13 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:W33b3l wrote:Well sec status is a usable commodity in a sense. The only reason try to keep my sec status high is so i can go into lowsec and shoot people if i want. The higher your sec status the more "points" you have to spend on pointless missile barages on mission runners in lowsec before you have to worry about the cops when you fly back to "civilized" society.
I havnt done any pvp in awhile and im probably at care bear status right now. Ive always hated letting a juicy target go because i realized my sec status couldnt take the hit and had to go home.
Otherwise its useless. And the local police npcs are the only thing it effects. They should make it matter againm i was grinding standings with an alt so i could anchor pos's for people and was just about there the same time they removed the limitation. I was a little pissed. Same goes with scc. It will just get more pointless before it makes a difference. Ive known quite a few people that did this as an isk service over the years. Back when one guy did it I think he got almost 200mil at that time, it was more before hand of course for brand new POS anchoring corps. Make corp with a cool name, wait 7 days for standings to kick in and hand over to an alt for isk with 0 standings and boom you could go anchor your POSs. Most people dont care if they go full on pirate but a lot of people dont do the faction missions running L4s for exactly this reason so as not to lock themselves out of space and content. In the end its the same with sec status locking you out of areas. Yes some get a bit too uptight about it and now with dedicated alts its not nearly as bad as it was before. It was ironically the same thing with clone grades stopping certain alts from partaking in different activities. In the end it is about choices but Id love to see some changes there, yet again its not high priority for the "base" game which is all about pew pew and moar pew pew and epeen waving. But its a nice way to spend all that isk, stuff and standings you get every now and again by shooting someone in the face here and there. And frankly I wish more people would do it. I know people sure wish I would undock more and pew pew.... or maybe just be their friend.... or something.... Too late for that tbh.
Ya pretty much. The way the new camera performs, and the fact there is no in game browser anymore shows they have already crossed that line. I am a HUGE fan of how drone scanning works now though so at least there is that.
As for standing... I was actually half way through the cosmos missions when the anchoring change went into effect. I gave up and have no reason to even care anymore now.
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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
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Posted - 2016.07.12 04:18:42 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:Ralph KG doesn't farm likes. His good mind, pithy/appropriate words, and good insight get him those likes. But mostly LAGL
Confirming he's a good dude who has helped a lot of other dudes get in to the game, despite CCP repeatedly nerfing his play style to the point of inviability.
He's a much better man than I. I'm too bitter for NCQA now so I've been reduced to responding to (read as: legitimizing) turds like the OP in GD while eager newbros go unhelped.
#thanksCCP
Want to talk? Join my channel in game: House Forelli
Titan's Lament
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16801
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Posted - 2016.07.12 11:26:28 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:But mostly LAGL i will hurt you if i can find you.
Better the Devil you know.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.07.12 13:14:13 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:But mostly LAGL i will hurt you if i can find you. /me cues up Yakety Sax on the playlist.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Daerrol
Death By Design Did he say Jump
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Posted - 2016.07.12 15:00:03 -
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Hi I'm a pirate main. Sec Status has this effect on my life: 1. PVPing none-low sec status people is a tiny bit harder as they get gate guns I don't 2. I had to pay CCP some money to train up a hauling alt as I didn't wanna lose the training time myself 3. My hauling skills on my main are kinda going to waste 4. Going to null can be scary as I have to jump through highsec and the nullbears camp the gate and tackle us on the way back home (BAD GAMEPLAY)
Suggestions to make the Sec Status thingymajiggy work better: Remove Sec Status all together. Everyone w/o suspect/criminal timer gets gate gun defense in lowsec. Some Characters can go back to higshec. Gankers catalyst alts can go do other stuff (still can't undock for 10 minutes after a gank as criminal timer is in effect) |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
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Posted - 2016.07.12 22:41:38 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:i will hurt you if i can find you.
Give me a shout and I'll try to make it a fair fight, otherwise, I feel sorry for my poor PvE ship!
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Dornier Pfeil
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.24 21:23:06 -
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W33b3l wrote:Although I've always felt that loosing sec status in lowsec (other then podding) is kind of stupid because theres not any authorities out there to see it happen.
It's the shared Jove technology. Capsuleers and Concord are both products of the same technology and therefore part of the same communications network/security grid. It ties us all together and allows Concord to know when and where aggression occurs. |
Dornier Pfeil
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2016.08.24 21:25:45 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Most people have answered the questions posed already but Ill add my two cents. Way back in the day you could go up to +10 standing as well as -10. But it was so easy to go into null and rat for a single day or two to get the standings back from -10 that CCP changed it to +5 and made rats count less to standings. Like others alluded to you could get positive standings for factions only so you could be +10 with all factions and have had the +10 standings with concord as well with all the enviable results. Reprocessing in stations was perfect at 6.66 corp standing status, POSs before the changes needed 8.0 standings to anchor in a 0.8 system, 7.0 for 0.7, etc and of course agents needed the required faction standings. These were all tied into concord standings as one and the same but again CCP took those and divided the two. Btw if you have low Concord standings avoid the Concord systems as they will do the same if you are KOS as if you committed a criminal act anywhere. The sec status gains above 5.0 were still implemented last time I checked and there are two missions you can do ONCE in your eve career, like the COSMOS agents, that will reward you with that above 5.0 standings. Afaik you dont get anything other than the epeen badge of ultimate carebearism though. And if you lose that sec you will never get it back. CCP has removed sec status and standings and their importance over the years and there is little to no reason to care anymore other than a slightly different playstyle. I like W33bl3's idea quite frankly to make it be a thing again. But the crying from the ganker crowd will put a sock in that fast. I also think that low sec needs to have way less of a standings hit for ships but not pods, but again I think this will fall on deaf ears. I used to consider my sec status as a commodity that if not used was worthless. So I would go about until I was close to 5.0 and then go gank. You could get in about 6 or so ganks before you got near 0.0 again and then go on with your life. This changed when crimewatch came into effect as now you could sell your killrights. Before that knowing your target wouldnt ever come find you was most beneficial in selecting gank targets. But now they can sell your killright so its not as beneficial a commodity in the same way. But now of course theres so much isk having your own dedicated -10 gank alt is more a thing.... or having 2, 5 or 10 like some people out there do. I would love to see it BE a commodity much like tags for sec. Have those with high sec extract and sell tags to those with low sec for isk as well. Or at least something. ANYTHING is better than what it is now. I used to matter and Id love to see stuff matter again. But I think like real life its just imaginary. There is NO beneficial reason to have a higher sec status and it is a shame on CCPs part. But with so many of the player base crying about "REAL" issues that need fixing Im sure something like sec status and standings are likely on the **** pile of the totem pole over there far off to the left, no no way on back there over those mountain ranges, nope dont stop... clear across that ocean... yeaaah riiight about there. So no I dont believe CCP will change it anytime soon besides making it easier for the masses like the anchoring POSs issue in high sec to cave to the nullbears thatd have to run missions!! OMG!! in high sec?!?! to get THAT much standings to put up a POS like the rest of the player base did so you can put up those compression arrays everywhere. But dedicated toons for ganking or whatever are just as common as dedicated mission runners, incursion runners or anom running. Ultimately people see work and effort and scream. To think in a game billed as deep and long term is too much most often. Hand it to me on a silver platter or let me just shoot them like fish in a barrel is more "fun" but sinks to the least common denominator factor. Wow... yeah...that went way too long and kinda rantish at the end. LOL So Ill stop there now..... for now. no, no Ill never let you all off that easy.
Thank you for this answer. I asked this question in another thread but I just guessed it wasn't worth answering.
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Solecist Project
32427
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Posted - 2016.08.24 21:35:34 -
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There should be a benefit in having a positive security status.
Like, no CONCORD spawning when i kill someone.
Why is this discussion even there?
What is wrong with you monster???
You slaughter MILLIONS OF LIVES every single week in the name of agents of the empires ... ... you enforce CONCORD's law upon fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers ... ... and now you even ask to be honoured???
HONOURED???
A mass murderer are you! And you're also a COWARD for shooting those who are much, much weaker!!
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Khan Wrenth
Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation
659
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Posted - 2016.08.25 01:00:30 -
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W33b3l wrote:I personally wish your sec status effected concord response time if you where attacked. Zero being default, the closer to 5 you are the quicker they respond ( based off the security of the system) and the closer you are to -5 (or the magic number that makes you a criminal) the slower they respond. That would be kind of cool.
Actually I wish the opposite.
I wish the more security status you had, the longer it took for Concord to react when you yourself commit a criminal act.
Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
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