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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.16 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Smart Edited by: Amy Smart on 16/04/2007 19:49:26 so the map is changed... lol. why the map is changed? and dont bring your "there is no d2 in venal" argue... atm. we lock one station system. and you wont engage us. cause u camp a station with 12 bs. lol...
but hey... u claim venal. very strange!
change it back asap, please...
Got system names? Ive been cruising about Venal for a bit over the past week and all i see in local are Trim and Kitth of Venal. Trium usually being outside trying to blow me up. -----
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Venix
An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.16 20:17:00 -
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Triv doesnt own anything. They dock just like the rest of the people who "claim" to own venal. It should be a big contested zone or d2 controled. D2 has spent a lot of time giving out systems and constilations and zoning out control. Its wrong to just give it away because a group of gankers says so =(. Ni4Ni Join Ni4Ni Today! Public Channel: Ni4Ni |
Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.16 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 16/04/2007 20:15:14
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Amy Smart Edited by: Amy Smart on 16/04/2007 19:49:26 so the map is changed... lol. why the map is changed? and dont bring your "there is no d2 in venal" argue... atm. we lock one station system. and you wont engage us. cause u camp a station with 12 bs. lol...
but hey... u claim venal. very strange!
change it back asap, please...
Got system names? Ive been cruising about Venal for a bit over the past week and all i see in local are Trim and Kitth of Venal. Trium usually being outside trying to blow me up.
Amy is right. While Tri being all over Venal in almost every station system a small D2 gang came to challenge our claim for P-V (Titan, Mothership, 13 carriers and small change).
You caught us offguard, we're shocked and ashamed. This one camp on this one day in this one system of course changes everything, you best change the whole region back to D2 asap.
I also heard they didn't want those outposts anyway and the war with BoB is off.
Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.16 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Venix Triv doesnt own anything. They dock just like the rest of the people who "claim" to own venal. It should be a big contested zone or d2 controled. D2 has spent a lot of time giving out systems and constilations and zoning out control. Its wrong to just give it away because a group of gankers says so =(.
The same group of gankers who jumped into 140 of your guys with 100 and won, without a BS loss? But killing 70+ people?
With regards to Amy, tonight you camped us in, it took a titan to do it but you did, so if you want venal back tonight you've got it, but we get it back tommorow when the titan isnt here.
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JFxSummoner
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.16 23:55:00 -
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hmm so D2 is camping TRI with its Titan in Venal while MC is steam rolling there outposts else where.......
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.17 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: JFxSummoner hmm so D2 is camping TRI with its Titan in Venal while MC is steam rolling there outposts else where.......
Lets not mess politics into this. They had their bit of fun. They defended POS we were about to destroy. Sure they needed Titan, mothership, six carriers and sniping fleet but I can see it only as a compliement for us. At least they showed to defend their property.
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.17 09:08:00 -
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We are part of the alliance and live in Stain. The map should reflect that.
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DonSchoe
Gallente Ante Matter
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Posted - 2007.04.18 16:42:00 -
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venal is guristas souv.
live with it. ________________ EVE Online / Rank ??? / SP: 15408640 of ??? +Currently training to: level 5 +Time left: infinite...
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touchvill
The Pikey Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: DonSchoe venal is guristas souv.
live with it.
Well D2 had claims of it before Triumvirate took it off them and even charged corps and alliances to rat there.
I bet they tried to charge Trium and they said, "we'll just take it off you thank you very much"
It's Triums, live with it!
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Humongo
Spectrum Solutions INC Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: DonSchoe venal is guristas souv.
live with it.
Well D2 had claims of it before Triumvirate took it off them and even charged corps and alliances to rat there.
I bet they tried to charge Trium and they said, "we'll just take it off you thank you very much"
It's Triums, live with it!
Yeah and Gurista's charged before them
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Jacque Custeau
Knights of the Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:14:00 -
[131]
When will there be elections for a new map-maker? The current one was elected some time ago, and it was never mentioned to be a life-long appointment. When will the new elections be held? ------------------- |
touchvill
The Pikey Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:24:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Humongo
Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: DonSchoe venal is guristas souv.
live with it.
Well D2 had claims of it before Triumvirate took it off them and even charged corps and alliances to rat there.
I bet they tried to charge Trium and they said, "we'll just take it off you thank you very much"
It's Triums, live with it!
Yeah and Gurista's charged before them
When the map was coloured for D2 I don't recall any of the nap squad moaning then.
Not going to say any more on the matter. It will end up being a pointless argument with people droning on and on and on and in the end noone cares. If you don't like that Trium has claim to Venal (and they will keep it in current circumstances as D2 did far less to have claim) then you go kick them out. I think you will have a hard time, the people who claimed Pure Blind found that out for the last year. They can't be forcebly removed.
I am sure they will welcome you to try though.
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Humongo
Spectrum Solutions INC Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: Humongo
Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: DonSchoe venal is guristas souv.
live with it.
Well D2 had claims of it before Triumvirate took it off them and even charged corps and alliances to rat there.
I bet they tried to charge Trium and they said, "we'll just take it off you thank you very much"
It's Triums, live with it!
Yeah and Gurista's charged before them
When the map was coloured for D2 I don't recall any of the nap squad moaning then.
Not going to say any more on the matter. It will end up being a pointless argument with people droning on and on and on and in the end noone cares. If you don't like that Trium has claim to Venal (and they will keep it in current circumstances as D2 did far less to have claim) then you go kick them out. I think you will have a hard time, the people who claimed Pure Blind found that out for the last year. They can't be forcebly removed.
I am sure they will welcome you to try though.
I didnt mention the claim. I was referring to your claim D2 charged Venal residents rent.
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Ramireza
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Ramireza on 18/04/2007 20:38:49
Originally by: Humongo
Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: Humongo
Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: DonSchoe venal is guristas souv.
live with it.
Well D2 had claims of it before Triumvirate took it off them and even charged corps and alliances to rat there.
I bet they tried to charge Trium and they said, "we'll just take it off you thank you very much"
It's Triums, live with it!
Yeah and Gurista's charged before them
When the map was coloured for D2 I don't recall any of the nap squad moaning then.
Not going to say any more on the matter. It will end up being a pointless argument with people droning on and on and on and in the end noone cares. If you don't like that Trium has claim to Venal (and they will keep it in current circumstances as D2 did far less to have claim) then you go kick them out. I think you will have a hard time, the people who claimed Pure Blind found that out for the last year. They can't be forcebly removed.
I am sure they will welcome you to try though.
I didnt mention the claim. I was referring to your claim D2 charged Venal residents rent.
AAAAHHHH... PLEASE stop this "I/YOU/EVERYBODIES MOM claims an npc region". Its NOT claimable. Venal belongs to teh ebil gursitas. PERIOD!
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Frozen Light
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.18 23:05:00 -
[135]
This is POLITICAL map, it does not show claims. ONLY yes ONLY political influence.
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sliver 0xD
Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:35:00 -
[136]
Edited by: sliver 0xD on 19/04/2007 00:36:28 Edited by: sliver 0xD on 19/04/2007 00:36:05
Originally by: Ramireza Edited by: Ramireza on 18/04/2007 20:38:49
Originally by: Humongo
Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: Humongo
Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: DonSchoe venal is guristas souv.
live with it.
Well D2 had claims of it before Triumvirate took it off them and even charged corps and alliances to rat there.
I bet they tried to charge Trium and they said, "we'll just take it off you thank you very much"
It's Triums, live with it!
Yeah and Gurista's charged before them
When the map was coloured for D2 I don't recall any of the nap squad moaning then.
Not going to say any more on the matter. It will end up being a pointless argument with people droning on and on and on and in the end noone cares. If you don't like that Trium has claim to Venal (and they will keep it in current circumstances as D2 did far less to have claim) then you go kick them out. I think you will have a hard time, the people who claimed Pure Blind found that out for the last year. They can't be forcebly removed.
I am sure they will welcome you to try though.
I didnt mention the claim. I was referring to your claim D2 charged Venal residents rent.
AAAAHHHH... PLEASE stop this "I/YOU/EVERYBODIES MOM claims an npc region". Its NOT claimable. Venal belongs to teh ebil gursitas. PERIOD!
well last time i lived in venal it was d2 claimed. and i think don shoe made a post about it then to. back then not about guristas sov but about the situation then. and d2 clearly stated that venal was claimed by d2.
iam not currently in the venal region but if they have the region under there control the claim should be like that. its my way of thinking that the map should show more of who lives there then what the propoganda want us to beleave who lives there. |
Serenity Steele
Rearden Steele
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Posted - 2007.04.20 04:18:00 -
[137]
Outpost Alert daily updates have resumed again. (was away 1 week). Now shows Alliance member count for all alliance with at least 1 sov. system.
Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert - System Sovereignty - Alliance Rank |
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Serathu
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.20 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Custeau When will there be elections for a new map-maker? The current one was elected some time ago, and it was never mentioned to be a life-long appointment. When will the new elections be held?
If you wish to become a mapmaker you are free to do so - please just read and follow the instructions in my post at the top of this thread.
To everyone else - thread cleaned.
Please make sure to read the rules before posting here. This is not a discussion thread.
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Edo Kael
Caldari Reunited Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.04.21 07:54:00 -
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Praesidium Libertatis has sov. over the 6-1T6Z system for about a week now. Oxide (or any other alliance) has not been able/willing to do anything about that, hence the map should show this little area in our colours.
Edo
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Ralara
Caldari Lilandri Foundation
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Posted - 2007.04.22 00:57:00 -
[140]
I am not sure signle system sov is shown.
"Some of the alliances donĘt appear on the map, because their influence is to low to overwhelm their big influencing neighbor.
Please read this before post a reply:
2. This is not an exact political map. Some systems and even outposts claimed by one alliance may appear on the territory of the other alliance, which is dominating here by influence."
I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
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Ramireza
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:22:00 -
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To the guy who making the Eve influence map : Please remove Evoke from the map. We dont claim any space. Await an acnouncement soon regarding ec-p8r.
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Major Stormer
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ramireza To the guy who making the Eve influence map : Please remove Evoke from the map. We dont claim any space. Await an acnouncement soon regarding ec-p8r.
He cant, its based purely on who owns that system if they want to claim it or not :) remove the sov yourself and it goes away on the map :)
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.23 19:52:00 -
[143]
Map updated. -----
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Kiarah
Gallente Janus Pilot Corps
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:11:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Kiarah on 24/04/2007 17:13:07
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Map updated.
I don't think your map is impartial, although it is implied to be. Areas recently conquered by your side ("The Alliance") are shown as solid (IE conquered and stabilized), such as areas in fade under attack by MC and YouWhat and storm armada's attack further north of there. Sov in all of those locations only came down 3 days ago, and already they have been solidified? The Coalition's recently held spaces, Upper Fade and Lower Feythabolis are listed as war zones. Tau Ceti have had sov in lower feyth for over a week at least, unless the influence map has been lying. Furthermore, NPC 0.0 like curse, stain, and outer-ring/syndicate are left unmarked or undecided where there might be alliances opposing your group, whereas triumvirate is given solid color (taken AND solidified, not even a war zone) over venal where it makes the northern coalition look weaker, despite reports of northern alliances forcing tri to hide in their NPC stations.
So, given this subtle shifting, are you trying to push the border of the war and more importantly the perception of the border a little bit to your benefit? It does seem so. If your map is not meant to be neutral, then say so.
Also pure blind has a number 10 on it. There is no 10 in the index. Just trying to help.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.24 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 24/04/2007 17:46:15
Originally by: Kiarah Edited by: Kiarah on 24/04/2007 17:13:07
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Map updated.
I don't think your map is impartial, although it is implied to be. Areas recently conquered by your side ("The Alliance") are shown as solid (IE conquered and stabilized), such as areas in fade under attack by MC and YouWhat and storm armada's attack further north of there. Sov in all of those locations only came down 3 days ago, and already they have been solidified? The Coalition's recently held spaces, Upper Fade and Lower Feythabolis are listed as war zones. Tau Ceti have had sov in lower feyth for over a week at least, unless the influence map has been lying. Furthermore, NPC 0.0 like curse, stain, and outer-ring/syndicate are left unmarked or undecided where there might be alliances opposing your group, whereas triumvirate is given solid color (taken AND solidified, not even a war zone) over venal where it makes the northern coalition look weaker, despite reports of northern alliances forcing tri to hide in their NPC stations.
So, given this subtle shifting, are you trying to push the border of the war and more importantly the perception of the border a little bit to your benefit? It does seem so. If your map is not meant to be neutral, then say so.
Also pure blind has a number 10 on it. There is no 10 in the index. Just trying to help.
FIO, 3JN and P-2 are shown as solid as D2 has made no effort to conquer these back, hence they're not contested. D2 is fighting to get C4C back, hence its contested. Same applies to Rule of Three space.
[ EDIT: I stand corrected, I-UU is not in YW hands, they have sov but not the station ]
I've been running around with an alt in Venal for the past week, camping some tri in station for a few hours with some super caps and titan doesn't imply any form of control, all the station systems are infested with Tri and they're the ones you get worry about when moving through, not anyone else. Venal does have a warzone marker btw.
Curse is cluster **** of various alliance and theres too many stations to really figure who controls what, same with stain. Regions such as Venal, Great Wildlands and Fountain only have a few NPC stations and are much easier to monitor. Syndicate and Outer Ring have had no official claims made, the population there doesnt want or care to be marked apparently.
Lower Feyth is contested because as far as im aware people are still fighting over it, i could be wrong but i guess ill poke some people about that to see if thats accurate.
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Kiarah
Gallente Janus Pilot Corps
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Posted - 2007.04.24 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foitran Map making is not an exact science, there will always be something marked wrong and people will always cry bias over it.
...which is probably a legitimate way of keeping the map grounded in reality, as it falls to the mapmaker to justify the contested parts, which you've done. Keep up the good work.
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foxsix
GalacTECH Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.05.01 14:45:00 -
[147]
In the Joshua Foiritain map at the top right, where the members of the different factions are listed, Gunboat Diplomacy is listed as Gunbeat Diplomacy. Please correct when you are able.
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Crazy Dogs
Dogs Life Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.08 07:53:00 -
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It seems "Sparta Alliance" has system and station sov of north deklien, not D2... i guess that both part of the northen coalition so its not of grave importance who it shows on the map...
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3xcit3
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.11 00:07:00 -
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Deklein sov. claimed by Storm Armada? ROFLMAO Joshua try to be at least a little bit realistic and neutral.. not for me, i dont take you serious any more, but for all other who want an accurate map..
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.11 00:41:00 -
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You prolly missed the part where FLA surrendered? -----
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