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Forum Toon
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.07.10 16:41:36 -
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amazing ship. I was bored to hell in eve and decided it was time to try the mach, got some skills and ****** fit and set to try it in action.
The blap... omg.. the blap... glorious!
800Autocannon hitting to 50Km +- with that lovely speed... I'm in love.
Decided it's high time to pimp it and perfect the needed skills.
1. To which degree you pimp your mach? T2 is enough? Faction? mix som deadspace shield rep? 2. Armor or shield rep? I want max blap power but not to warp out every 2 minutes. 3. TE to Gyro ratio? 4. Gun rigs or AU speed rigs?
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1550
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Posted - 2016.07.10 17:58:38 -
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1. Go all purple. Just kidding, a Dread Guristas X-L booster should be enough bling 2. Shield 3. 3 gyro 3 TE 1 nanofiber 4. Warpspeed
Basically you want to just have the bare minimum tank on it since you do so much dps you can remove much of the incoming damage before you need to actually tank.
This of course only works if you're paying attention and are manually piloting to match transversal etc
You might also want to think about getting a sensor booster to lock faster as your scan resolution is still battleship level |
Forum Toon
State War Academy Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2016.07.10 18:38:31 -
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good point on sensor booster!
and what are your thoughts on MWD over AB?
and awareness is what makes this ship so awesome, unlike my old AFK gila or MJD snipers this actually feels like those epic space battles from the cinema or TV series' I've watched. maneuvering... blaping targets... epic. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16763
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Posted - 2016.07.10 18:46:44 -
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Its a mach, its begging for a mwd. Though i do see a lot of km's with shiny ab's so might be something to that.
Better the Devil you know.
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Forum Toon
State War Academy Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2016.07.10 18:51:36 -
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Hmm I'll try with your recommended changes thanks |
elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1304
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Posted - 2016.07.10 19:19:41 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Its a mach, its begging for a mwd. Though i do see a lot of km's with shiny ab's so might be something to that.
Might also be a reason that the core x-type only costs like ~40m -ish.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2659
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Posted - 2016.07.10 20:02:33 -
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Armor and shield are pretty comparable on this particular ship. Compare:
[Machariel, modern mach] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Core C-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive X-Large Shield Booster II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Amplifier II EM Ward Amplifier II
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L [empty high slot]
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
974 at 3.8+61, tanks enough, 1688m/s.
[Machariel, armor pve] Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer Armor Thermal Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Core C-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L [empty high slot]
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
1031 at 3.9+63, tanks enough, looks shiny but really isn't, 1542 m/s.
They both work fine; pick your poison. Armor is easier on cpu; shield is easier on grid (which makes refitting to 1400s more of an option should you ever want to, say, pop Scarlet on a blitz). |
Zoltan Lazar
222
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Posted - 2016.07.11 07:12:34 -
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Tengu does it better. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1306
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Posted - 2016.07.11 10:52:22 -
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Zoltan Lazar wrote:Tengu does it better.
What exactly? Armor tanking?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16781
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Posted - 2016.07.11 11:10:22 -
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elitatwo wrote:Zoltan Lazar wrote:Tengu does it better. What exactly? Armor tanking? I bet he means blaping things with artilery.
Better the Devil you know.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
960
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Posted - 2016.07.11 12:04:07 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:elitatwo wrote:Zoltan Lazar wrote:Tengu does it better. What exactly? Armor tanking? I bet he means blaping things with artilery.
Silly goose; everyone knows you're suppose to use hybrids on a Tengu, not projectiles.
Artillery on a Tengu. Pff, amateurs!
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
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Tiddle Jr
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
877
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Posted - 2016.07.11 22:11:55 -
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[Macha- "Blap Blap"]
Domination Gyrostabilizer x3 Domination Tracking Enhancer x2 Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Inertial Stabilizers
Domination EM Ward Field Domination Adaptive Invulnerability Field Domination X-Large Shield Booster Domination Shield Boost Amplifier Domination 500MN Microwarpdrive
Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon, Domination Fusion L x7 [Empty High slot]
Large Targeting System Subcontroller I Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier II Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
'Integrated' Warrior x5 'Integrated' Valkyrie x5 'Integrated' Berserker x2
this fit was built like two years ago, when i was doing almost nothing and had time to assemble it py pieces. This is "true" Angels doctrine fit with all those exceptions that Domi's mods at least some of those are not same effective as another faction ones but idc. It looks sexy.
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Ormly
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2016.07.11 22:45:17 -
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Pith X-type XL Booster is like 85-100mil atm. Cheapo Pith C-type XL Booster is a paltry 40 mil or something. Would at least bling that while it's cheap. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
960
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Posted - 2016.07.12 09:16:30 -
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Something I noticed people are forgetting for their Mach fits, you can toss an Auto Targeting System I to get 9 max target locks, especially if you're not fitting a tractor or neut or something instead. Not gonna make or break your fit, but just FYI in case you indeed have an empty high and too little CPU or Grid for anything else.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Raging Bull Unchained
Signal Lost
2374
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Posted - 2016.07.12 09:33:04 -
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Mach is GLORIOUS! and LOOKS SEXY!
Just so someone mentioned it. I Myself prepeare to jump into my Rattlenake someone gave to me. But while i m in the rattle i-Śll grind isk + skills for the mach :P |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3298
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Posted - 2016.07.12 09:44:15 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:[Macha- "Blap Blap"]
Domination Gyrostabilizer x3 Domination Tracking Enhancer x2 Domination Nanofiber Structure Domination Inertial Stabilizers
Domination EM Ward Field Domination Adaptive Invulnerability Field Domination X-Large Shield Booster Domination Shield Boost Amplifier Domination 500MN Microwarpdrive
Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon, Domination Fusion L x7 [Empty High slot]
Large Targeting System Subcontroller I Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier II Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
'Integrated' Warrior x5 'Integrated' Valkyrie x5 'Integrated' Berserker x2
this fit was built like two years ago, when i was doing almost nothing and had time to assemble it py pieces. This is "true" Angels doctrine fit with all those exceptions that Domi's mods at least some of those are not same effective as another faction ones but idc. It looks sexy.
Gist's in the mids are much more pizaz
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ChromeStriker
Out of Focus Odin's Call
1045
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Posted - 2016.07.12 10:09:32 -
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Nightmares better...
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
960
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Posted - 2016.07.12 11:07:50 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Nightmares better...
At being a laser boat? Well, sure it is, just like the Macharial is a better autocannon boat.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
279
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Posted - 2016.07.12 11:58:10 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Its a mach, its begging for a mwd. Though i do see a lot of km's with shiny ab's so might be something to that.
I use an AB on my Mach. The AB runs permanently. Mitigates quite some damage it seems as I hardly ever have to cycle the shield booster. It's fast enough with the AB for L4s at least when I remember to boat to the gate at the last few rats. |
Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
46
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Posted - 2016.07.12 12:38:21 -
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Barghest is better |
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3301
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Posted - 2016.07.12 12:40:19 -
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rattlesnake is better
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
961
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Posted - 2016.07.12 15:46:11 -
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Nah...the Pod is better!
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Zebina Zeba
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.07.19 08:29:03 -
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I just started playing around with this ship as well.
Thinking about trying this fit:
[Machariel, Test] Damage Control II Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Gistum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field Pith X-Type Explosive Deflection Field
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L [empty high slot]
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Nikea Tiber
Backwater Enterprises RD
16
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Posted - 2016.07.20 02:10:05 -
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The mach is versitile for sure, and while i feel like a minority, the armor mach has a lot going for it. You can fit a four slot armor tank and three gyros, you free up a lot of cpu, and tracking computers are arguably superior to tracking enhancers. An ambit + 2 TCs can let you rescript for different situations while retaining some of the falloff you lose vs running 3 tracking enhancers, while giving you room for a sebo and grappler, or tackle.
The you cant tank quite the peak dps that you can with a shield tank, but you really shouldn't have to given the dps and mobility. The mach definitely benifits strongly from a deadspace mwd. An AB is good, but the mobility increase really helps with getting into range of where your AC's apply full damage and you can make use of four heavy drones without their flight time to target or recall being an issue.
Either way you tank it, beast of a ship. |
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