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Judaa K'Marr
The Eminence Front
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Posted - 2016.07.12 19:19:06 -
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Neph wrote:Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:They did it because the Gallente spelled it Kaldarie.
To hell with those Gallente hippie scum.
Edit: Though to be serious, I believe the planet (or maybe the system?) is named Caldar in Gallente. The name stuck after a few hundred years of being Gallente.
--Historian Gadget I know the system is Luminaire, but I feel like Caldari Prime being known as Caldar is familiar... I'll have to look into that.
Caldar Empire was the original name for Caldari State.
Real reason: I'm guessing they came up with the empire names before an exact naming convention for systems.
Lore reason: The C is a possible legacy of Gallentean colonial influence like Calcutta > Kalkata |
Yarosara Ruil
426
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Posted - 2016.07.12 19:24:40 -
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Judaa K'Marr wrote:Rataa Empire was the original name for Caldari State.
Fixed that for you. You're welcome!
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Cade Windstalker
486
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Posted - 2016.07.12 20:04:56 -
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Probably because that's the closest English transliteration of the actual name. None of these races actually speak or write in languages that would be recognizable to us. They have traditions and racial lineages that trace back to earth peoples and cultures, but they're like machine marks on a very finely etched piece of metal. They tell you something about where it came from what what made it, but few details about what was used or what the thing that did the etching looks like.
For example it's explicit in the lore that many of the ship names have passed down from the original colonists and expeditions, but they have no context or meaning only legends, and the names are translated or transliterated for our benefit since no one in-game actually speaks recognizable versions of our languages, since they haven't survived anything like intact.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
55651
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Posted - 2016.07.12 23:03:29 -
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Creds to the OP and +1 for noticing an error in the spelling / naming aspect of a Faction in-game.
Course since it's been like that for a very long time I seriously doubt CCP will do anything about it.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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John Volan
Volan Enterprises
24
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Posted - 2016.07.12 23:42:09 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:John Volan wrote:I never cease to be amazed at the number of troll threads spawned by General Discussion. This would have been a legitimate thread to have if it were posted on EVE Fiction. I swear, if it were up to you guys, EVE would be boiled down to a War of Tanks styled space ship simulator with Hello Kitty Svipuls everywhere. We're all nerds here, and calling someone out for having an healthy interest in the fictional backstory of EVE (and all its inconsistencies and parallels to real world aspects) is a pretty dumb double standard. A healthy interest in the fictional backstory of Eve does not consist of counting the number of occurrences of the letter 'C' in it's vocabulary. A 'double standard' on the other hand might be classifying anyone with a different opinion as you as someone who wants Eve to be a Hello Kitty simulator. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4547
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Posted - 2016.07.13 01:16:32 -
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The Symbology and Iconography of New Eden That's a gem from pre-reddit days. That thread excepted maybe, people in EVE Fiction don't discuss that kind of stuff just for advanced navel-gazing purposes. It's because they have an idea for a story, but it might hinge on some part of the New Eden backstory that isn't covered or fully developed. So before they start writing, they consult with other players for sources of info. Or if that fails, for opinions on how to work with that blank spot in the backstory. |
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
377
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Posted - 2016.07.13 01:22:15 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:Judaa K'Marr wrote:Rataa Empire was the original name for Caldari State. Fixed that for you. You're welcome! Edit: And yes, we're talking about different things. SUE ME!
Raata, IIRC.
Khergit Deserters wrote:The Symbology and Iconography of New Eden That's a gem from pre-reddit days. That thread excepted maybe, people in EVE Fiction don't discuss that kind of stuff for advanced navel-gazing purposes. It's because they have an idea for a story, but it might hinge on some thing in the New Eden backstory that isn't covered or fully developed. So before they start writing, they consult with other writers for sources. Or if that fails, ideas or a consensus.
Thanks! This will be valuable.
John Volan wrote: A healthy interest in the fictional backstory of Eve does not consist of counting the number of occurrences of the letter 'C' in it's vocabulary. A 'double standard' on the other hand might be classifying anyone with a different opinion as you as someone who wants Eve to be a Hello Kitty simulator.
Don't underestimate me, kid. I'm counting every letter, not just Cs. And every vowel diphthong. And every consonant cluster. And their position in the word. Hit me up if you want numbers.
~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~
GÇ£Sitasutone nabeliwatsa-shogi; Otre Jaitovalte hessami-ettogi useuus sufat. Eika, hakkit garuketsi.GÇ¥
-Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
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Princess Adhara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.07.13 01:47:13 -
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Fix it, KKP! |
Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
189
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Posted - 2016.07.13 01:53:19 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:John Volan wrote:I never cease to be amazed at the number of troll threads spawned by General Discussion. This would have been a legitimate thread to have if it were posted on EVE Fiction. I swear, if it were up to you guys, EVE would be boiled down to a War of Tanks styled space ship simulator with Hello Kitty Svipuls everywhere. We're all nerds here, and calling someone out for having an healthy interest in the fictional backstory of EVE (and all its inconsistencies and parallels to real world aspects) is a pretty dumb double standard.
So like "Universe of Tanks" then?
If the A-Team can fly a tank, so can we.
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TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
86
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Posted - 2016.07.13 03:30:19 -
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Cocaine, fish and absinthe has rather erratic effects on Islenska. Very few places in the Eve 'verse I can actually pronounce.
Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps
and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
202
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Posted - 2016.07.13 12:40:39 -
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Roenok Baalnorn wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:John Volan wrote:I never cease to be amazed at the number of troll threads spawned by General Discussion. This would have been a legitimate thread to have if it were posted on EVE Fiction. I swear, if it were up to you guys, EVE would be boiled down to a War of Tanks styled space ship simulator with Hello Kitty Svipuls everywhere. We're all nerds here, and calling someone out for having an healthy interest in the fictional backstory of EVE (and all its inconsistencies and parallels to real world aspects) is a pretty dumb double standard. So like "Universe of Tanks" then? If the A-Team can fly a tank, so can we.
Talwar, the solar powerd tank...
Ok, it looks a bit more like an old ironclad, but you get the picture.
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Memphis Baas
1705
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Posted - 2016.07.13 13:36:20 -
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Tell CCP to take the C from Caldari and the K from Inter-Stellar Kredits (ISK) and flip them, because both words "Caldari" and "Kredits" are ridiculous.
And then they can design a new logo for the Kaldari State, based on concentric K's instead of C's, and replace it on all the artwork and the ships in-game. And switch their "modified euro currency symbol" and use it for the ISC "credits" so a currency symbol represents a currency, not an in-game faction.
Take a hint from WoW, CCP! Their factions, Horde or Alliance, aren't represented by $ or other currency signs, modified or not. |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
202
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Posted - 2016.07.13 13:46:42 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Tell CCP to take the C from Caldari and the K from Inter-Stellar Kredits (ISK) and flip them, because both words "Caldari" and "Kredits" are ridiculous.
And then they can design a new logo for the Kaldari State, based on concentric K's instead of C's, and replace it on all the artwork and the ships in-game. And switch their "modified euro currency symbol" and use it for the ISC "credits" so a currency symbol represents a currency, not an in-game faction.
Take a hint from WoW, CCP! Their factions, Horde or Alliance, aren't represented by $ or other currency signs, modified or not.
/me takes a shot.
Am I winning the sarcasm drinking game?
--Tipsy Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Caen Raviene
Dark Bird Industries Perfect Dark
3
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Posted - 2016.07.13 19:31:17 -
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This is just further verification of how far the State's education system has declined since separating from the Federation.
It's spelled C-A-L-A-M-A-R-I squiddy! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4550
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Posted - 2016.07.14 00:49:01 -
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We know that Caldari language is an mix of Finnish and Japanese. Source Actually all New Eden languages are mixes of dual languages, for example, Matari being a blend of Nordic languages and South Pacific (pointing specifically toward Maori) languages. Source and another source I can't unearth ATM.. Amarr-- Persian and Balkan. (Same sources).
Why would this stuff matter? Because if you're familiar with the linguistics, you can name the character, city, or multi-legged creature in your story an authentic name.
(Pod & Planet fiction contest is coming in the Fall, btw). |
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
382
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Posted - 2016.07.14 03:19:27 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:We know that Caldari language is an mix of Finnish and Japanese. Source Actually all New Eden languages are mixes of dual languages, for example, Matari being a blend of Nordic languages and South Pacific (pointing specifically toward Maori) languages. Source and another source I can't unearth ATM.. Amarr-- Persian and Balkan. (Same sources). Why would this stuff matter? Because if you're familiar with the linguistics, you can name the character, city, or multi-legged creature in your story an authentic name. ( Pod & Planet fiction contest is coming in the Fall, btw).
Holy ****, I'm signing up for that. Can I submit Napanii documents with an English translation?
~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~
GÇ£Sitasutone nabeliwatsa-shogi; Otre Jaitovalte hessami-ettogi useuus sufat. Eika, hakkit garuketsi.GÇ¥
-Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
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May Arethusa
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
179
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Posted - 2016.07.14 06:21:53 -
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It would look like we're trying too hard to be cool with a K. Or edgy. It would look like we're trying to be something, when we could achieve the same look effortlessly just by showing up.
Then you'd have to consider the phenomenal amount of litigation, paperwork, and rebranding that would undoubtedly follow. Nobody has time for that.
Also, I'd need a new top. That sounds like effort. |
DeODokktor
Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
70
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Posted - 2016.07.14 11:24:24 -
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When they came to New Eden and settled the world they called it Caldari, but those hip generation that went out in space tried using K's everywhere. They think they are kool using krap like that, but kommon knowledge says they should kut it out kause it's konfusing.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ great film to explain this behavior. |
Telegram Sam
Crom's Angels
1514
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Posted - 2016.07.15 00:05:30 -
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Neph wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:We know that Caldari language is an mix of Finnish and Japanese. Source Actually all New Eden languages are mixes of dual languages, for example, Matari being a blend of Nordic languages and South Pacific (pointing specifically toward Maori) languages. Source and another source I can't unearth ATM.. Amarr-- Persian and Balkan. (Same sources). Why would this stuff matter? Because if you're familiar with the linguistics, you can name the character, city, or multi-legged creature in your story an authentic name. ( Pod & Planet fiction contest is coming in the Fall, btw). Holy ****, I'm signing up for that. Can I submit Napanii documents with an English translation? Sure, you can submit anything that interests you. There's a category for stuff that fits directly into the official lore, and another one for anything at all. So far, though, no entries that were like scholarly treatises have won a prize. The prize winners were all stories, with a plot. But you never know. |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
820
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Posted - 2016.07.15 04:04:39 -
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Well if "CH" is a more common theme you could argue that it used to be spelled "Chaldari", still pronounced the same, but teh gallente wanted to make it their own and simply shortened it. It goes with the gallente theme of assimilating other cultures and ideology in the lore and a direct insult to the Caldari as a whole over the invasion and hostile take over of their space.
Just off the top of my head really.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Warrior AgainstEvil
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2016.07.15 04:09:45 -
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Only if I was high or in a super chill mood would I ever give a damn. I am guessing the OP is the former at the moment. |
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
392
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Posted - 2016.07.15 04:54:20 -
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Warrior AgainstEvil wrote:Only if I was high or in a super chill mood would I ever give a damn. I am guessing the OP is the former at the moment.
I can neither confirm nor deny these accusations.
~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~
GÇ£Sitasutone nabeliwatsa-shogi; Otre Jaitovalte hessami-ettogi useuus sufat. Eika, hakkit garuketsi.GÇ¥
-Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
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Izi Ningishzidda
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2016.07.18 07:01:14 -
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Orla- King-Griffin wrote:Who cares, caldari smell anyway.
your character portrait looks like a blowup doll
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Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7625
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Posted - 2016.07.18 08:54:26 -
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Izi Ningishzidda wrote:Orla- King-Griffin wrote:Who cares, caldari smell anyway. your character portrait looks like a blowup doll
And yours looks like a meth addict.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Jean Luc Clermont
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
19
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Posted - 2016.07.18 09:35:58 -
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Normal Neph,
Your posts are pretty cool and I enjoy reading them
But... what happened here?
You gotta have way to much free time on your hands
My guess however, in terms of Lore, i would think it's just langauge evolution.
I'm from England, a name devived from the Angle's which in turn is came from the Romans (i think) referring to the blond, blue eye race that they found here and call Angels.
which is why the French use "Ang" and not "Eng"
(like most European countries in fact)
p.s. Gadget Helmsdottir...
ISK is ISK cos that is the currency in Iceland... |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
217
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Posted - 2016.07.18 13:32:06 -
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Jean Luc Clermont wrote: p.s. Gadget Helmsdottir...
ISK is ISK cos that is the currency in Iceland...
Think you may have addressed the wrong person here.
Jean Luc Clermont wrote: I'm from England, a name devived from the Angle's which in turn is came from the Romans (i think) referring to the blond, blue eye race that they found here and call Angels.
This is a bit jumbled. Those Angles (along with Saxons and Jutes) came to Britian from Frisia (Belgium/Holland) after the Romans more or less left the Isles to their own devices. However, one of the (if not THE) earliest depictions of the Anglo- name was used by the english monk, Bede, who may have applied the moniker for the reason stated above.
Guess what my minor was for my undergrad
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Orla- King-Griffin
204
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Posted - 2016.07.18 19:57:48 -
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Izi Ningishzidda wrote:Orla- King-Griffin wrote:Who cares, caldari smell anyway. your character portrait looks like a blowup doll and yours looks like someone soliciting for work as one .
Ah shite...
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
13713
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Posted - 2016.07.18 22:47:54 -
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I always spell it Kaldari.
I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1658
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Posted - 2016.07.18 23:46:57 -
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I've removed an off-topic troll reply and two quoting it.
Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
ISD Decoy
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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