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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2016.08.21 23:40:18 -
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Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing. Cause a gambling site owner that financed a major war, has any influence on the common EvE player just flying around space doing some pew. /sarcasm
That post of yours stink of jealousy.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2286
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Posted - 2016.08.22 06:08:27 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Sorry, we don't speak to people who put getting ganked and getting raped on an equal level. Most people still make the connection, in spite of the galighitng your kind does. That's why they play something else. Hence this thread. It struck me the other day, being busy as usual, that the kind of person who has all day to think about messing up someone else's game is the kind of person that is already not being missed IRL and won't be missed in this game either. Ask anybody who left Eve and they won't remember the names of the people they didn't like. Until CCP gets the rot out that has sided with the easy-kill community and decides to pull some serious changes to save Eve from mediocrity, it will continue to linger on, with the likes of you shitpoasting as if it made a difference. Or maybe it makes a difference to you, a difference that the world would never know, and a difference nobody else could care about. All hail, Solecist! Winner of the Eve Online Forums!!! What forum? *** END TRANSMISSION ***
o7
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
479
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Posted - 2016.08.22 07:20:48 -
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Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:
So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox.
ok so ya need it broken down barney style,, no problem.
player A gets a loan of ISK from player B
player A tells player B to feck himself when it comes to paying it back.
player B pays players to shoot player A's mates in the face for this.
players from all areas join in on the fun, it all escalates as it does in EVE.
so where do you see players not playing a meaningful part in the sand box?
you want lifeguards to build walls around your sand castle when the tide comes in. hahahahaha lol never going to happen and when it does,, game over man,, game over! |
Viktor Amarr
97
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Posted - 2016.08.22 07:27:25 -
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Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox.
"Other people do better in this sandbox than me, mostly because they put in more effort. This clearly shows that the sandbox is wrong!".
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
527
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Posted - 2016.08.22 07:55:06 -
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Viktor Amarr wrote:Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox. "Other people do better in this sandbox than me, mostly because they put in more effort. This clearly shows that the sandbox is wrong!".
So you're just here to troll others rather than adding to the discussion or coming up with any meaningful suggestions?
But what's new, you're doing it on several threads atm..... |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1872
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Posted - 2016.08.22 12:39:48 -
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Maekchu wrote:Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing. Cause a gambling site owner that financed a major war, has any influence on the common EvE player just flying around space doing some pew. /sarcasm That post of yours stink of jealousy. It might be because he is not happy with being 'common EVE player just flying around space doing some pew'.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
414
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Posted - 2016.08.22 12:52:30 -
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March rabbit wrote:Maekchu wrote:Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing. Cause a gambling site owner that financed a major war, has any influence on the common EvE player just flying around space doing some pew. /sarcasm That post of yours stink of jealousy. It might be because he is not happy with being 'common EVE player just flying around space doing some pew'. Then he should probably put some effort into not being the 'common EvE player flying around space doing some pew'. It's a sandbox. In EvE there is no 'grind to lvl100, roll some legends and roflstomp some puppies, while the whole server is in awe of your e-peen'. Do you honestly think it is easy to make a successful EvE casino? Don't you think a bit more effort has been put into IwantISK.com, then what that person has put into whatever he has been trying to do? Do you think all the major powerhouses in EvE have just exploited the 'system' for their own needs with no effort put into it?
It's like how people want to be rich and famous in real life, but doesn't really want to put in any effort and then they blame the 'system' cause they cannot achieve their goal.
But again, it's so much easier just to ask for nerfs and stuff instead of putting in some effort.
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.22 14:27:44 -
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"One or two dudes completely run Eve now. Not even players, just some guy that owns a gaming casino. "
Okay so if it's so easy just some guy can do it, you should be doing it too. Because it's not hard at all. There's no work and real life involved in it.
Not in programming, not in setting up servers, not in maintenance, not in fixing bugs, not in sending out payments, not in customer service. Null. Nada.
It's apparently so easy, everyone can do it.
...
The fact that losers bash on successfull people ... ... shows how bad it has become already.
Envy. It's a *****.
Edit: .... beaten by maekchu. lol
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
86
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Posted - 2016.08.23 18:00:16 -
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Denavit wrote:Is is because PLEX prices, i remember buying them at 550mill, 500mill, now is almost 1bill, or is it because the changes are making oldSchoolers quit?
The game simply isn't up to modern standards. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
615
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Posted - 2016.08.23 18:05:39 -
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Logan Revelore wrote:The game simply isn't up to modern standards. Which standards would those be then?
You know what CCP could do to really bring EVE up to *modern* game "standards"? They could just claim it has been an early-access beta all these years - and will actually be released "soon"(tm). Problem solved
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Solecist Project
32346
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Posted - 2016.08.23 18:19:39 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Logan Revelore wrote:The game simply isn't up to modern standards. Which standards would those be then? You know what CCP could do to really bring EVE up to *modern* game "standards"? They could just claim it has been an early-release beta all these years - and will actually be released "soon"(tm). Problem solved the standards of using neuroscience to deliberately attract certain types of people to get them to pay money. Despite being seemingly complex in regards to translating it into proper game-play ... ... how it works can be roughly summarized in several lines.
Unless I write it! Then it's at least 3000 chars and that's actually low by my own standards...........
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Solecist Project
32350
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Posted - 2016.08.23 18:21:53 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:Viktor Amarr wrote:Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox. "Other people do better in this sandbox than me, mostly because they put in more effort. This clearly shows that the sandbox is wrong!". So you're just here to troll others rather than adding to the discussion or coming up with any meaningful suggestions? But what's new, you're doing it on several threads atm..... Wow I'm in your signature! Just yesterday I wondered when that'll happen again! It's been at least a year since the last time!
Thank you, I really feel honoured. :)
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1875
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Posted - 2016.08.23 19:23:04 -
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Maekchu wrote:March rabbit wrote:Maekchu wrote:Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing. Cause a gambling site owner that financed a major war, has any influence on the common EvE player just flying around space doing some pew. /sarcasm That post of yours stink of jealousy. It might be because he is not happy with being 'common EVE player just flying around space doing some pew'. Then he should probably put some effort into not being the 'common EvE player flying around space doing some pew'. It's a sandbox. In EvE there is no 'grind to lvl100, roll some legends and roflstomp some puppies, while the whole server is in awe of your e-peen'. It's like how people want to be rich and famous in real life, but doesn't really want to put in any effort and then they blame the 'system' cause they cannot achieve their goal. But again, it's so much easier just to ask for nerfs and stuff instead of putting in some effort. If you mean 'everyone should get his own out-of-game casino' then i don't like it (hint: read all the quotes and not only the last).
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Fade Azura
Logistics and Salvage Express Services
166
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Posted - 2016.09.01 18:16:33 -
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it seems like the new games that come out are getting simpler and simpler ... eve is an old game .. some of the older games were/are alot harder to play. kinda like how everquest was to warcraft ...
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
514
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Posted - 2016.09.01 22:36:24 -
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The main reason that less people are playing is very simple. They aren't logging on anymore... |
Dwai Attic
Infinite Point Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2016.09.01 23:18:34 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:The main reason that less people are playing is very simple. They aren't logging on anymore...
Oh really? Groundbreaking observation
Since we're going F2P numbers will be up again... |
Kharamete
Royal Assent
167
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Posted - 2016.09.02 03:46:21 -
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The gist of too many conversations I've seen...
New Player: Hey guys, I just joined! This game looks awesome! What do I do? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: WhatGÇÖs a Venture? NPC Corp: Idiot. Noob. NP: So, what do I do? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: But I saw this ad. You could go out there, and fight with hundreds of players! NPC Corp: YouGÇÖre useless as a newbie. TheyGÇÖll never accept you. The ads lie. You can never catch up. NP: But then what do I DO? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: Mine? [Two weeks later] Mining? This is it? **** this. ESO has gone free to play, I think.
CCP FoxFour: "... the what button... oh god I didn't even know that existed. BRB."
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Elinarien
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2016.09.02 08:41:04 -
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Kharamete wrote:The gist of too many conversations I've seen...
New Player: Hey guys, I just joined! This game looks awesome! What do I do? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: WhatGÇÖs a Venture? NPC Corp: Idiot. Noob. NP: So, what do I do? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: But I saw this ad. You could go out there, and fight with hundreds of players! NPC Corp: YouGÇÖre useless as a newbie. TheyGÇÖll never accept you. The ads lie. You can never catch up. NP: But then what do I DO? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: Mine? [Two weeks later] Mining? This is it? **** this. ESO has gone free to play, I think.
Probably happens already with the 30 day trials. |
Serene Repose
2838
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Posted - 2016.09.02 11:10:30 -
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Anybody run the numbers on players coming back? We do that with other body counts - birth/death ratio?
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Valkorsia
IONSTAR Yulai Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.09.02 12:38:09 -
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Very simply.
There's nothing sexual in the game. Sexuality is a big part of life, and it is non-existent in a game of life and death ... and Eve has even managed to nerf my nipples. Do you see nipples anywhere? No. It's ridiculous.
#Freethenipple |
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Solecist Project
32824
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Posted - 2016.09.02 17:38:31 -
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Valkorsia wrote:Very simply.
There's nothing sexual in the game. Sexuality is a big part of life, and it is non-existent in a game of life and death ... and Eve has even managed to nerf my nipples. Do you see nipples anywhere? No. It's ridiculous.
#Freethenipple First: Nipples aren't a thing because of the US market. I have no source for that except the very fact that nipples cause an outrage of a miniature fragment of the population of the US, thus everyone has to suffer for it. (Think about this for a minute)
Second: you actually have no idea. I mean, sure, when it comes to generic avatar pics you're right... untilyou start using pain.net, which is free and amazingly capable. And there is a literal gigantic ****-ton of people who are within all shades from proper erotic roleplaying to disgusting cybersex. The pic exchange is real. So. *******. Real. It's amazing! lol
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Solecist Project
32824
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Posted - 2016.09.02 17:40:06 -
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And it's ...
So So ******* Profitable!
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
4
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Posted - 2016.09.03 00:01:11 -
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No. I used to get a 90 day GTC for far far less than the cost of 1 plex. If I knew that CCP was going to be introducing plex I probably would have brought years of game time back in the day! However, looking back now just working 1 extra shift would pay many accounts for an entire year so no worries.
Instead the problem is that CCP has focused for a decade on making sure that every change is based around making combat less likely to occur and has been trying to go after noobs in frigs(fw)/casual high sec players etc... As a result the gameplay deteriorated for the core players, especially in low sec. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5187
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Posted - 2016.09.03 07:47:32 -
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Kharamete wrote:The gist of too many conversations I've seen...
New Player: Hey guys, I just joined! This game looks awesome! What do I do? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: WhatGÇÖs a Venture? NPC Corp: Idiot. Noob. NP: So, what do I do? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: But I saw this ad. You could go out there, and fight with hundreds of players! NPC Corp: YouGÇÖre useless as a newbie. TheyGÇÖll never accept you. The ads lie. You can never catch up. NP: But then what do I DO? NPC Corp: If you skill for the Venture you can mine and make isk. NP: Mine? [Two weeks later] Mining? This is it? **** this. ESO has gone free to play, I think.
After about 10 days of skill training you can start ganking freighters with CODE. They could join Eve Uni. They could look into joining Brave, Karmafleet, or other alliances/corps geared towards new players.
But no, you keep telling him to go mine in a venture.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Serene Repose
2854
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Posted - 2016.09.03 09:11:34 -
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Start ganking with CODE? Wouldn't it take more than ten days to totally lose ones self-esteem, or is this idea for those who come to us already in the self-loathing mode? Where did I put that pesky sig....
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
517
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Posted - 2016.09.03 14:34:19 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:After about 10 days of skill training you can start ganking freighters with CODE. They could join Eve Uni. They could look into joining Brave, Karmafleet, or other alliances/corps geared towards new players. But no, you keep telling him to go mine in a venture.
You can do more than that. I immediately joined RvB with my first account and got into PvP. Two months into the game I was living in null. I've always loved exploration (and I mean actually exploring the universe, not hacking data/relic sites) so I set up a business scouting for trading runs. It might sound boring now, but to a new player, exploring and scouting dangerous, enemy filled space was extremely exciting, and I made a lot of ISK in thank you donations on the side. |
Laufey Sif Tetseldottir
Blue Lagoon Appreciation Society
46
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Posted - 2016.09.04 01:50:27 -
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Because CCP does not deliver ?
Walk in Station Atmospheric Flight Planet exploration Comet mining Asteroid exploration/Archeology by walking Drug dealing in station
Anyone remember that Minecraft redstone on a POS picture showed at random fanfest ?
Probably it's a part of the problem.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
707
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Posted - 2016.09.04 02:40:44 -
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Laufey Sif Tetseldottir wrote:Because CCP does not deliver ?
Walk in Station Atmospheric Flight Planet exploration Comet mining Asteroid exploration/Archeology by walking Drug dealing in station etc etc
Anyone remember that Minecraft redstone on a POS picture showed at random fanfest ?
Probably it's a part of the problem. Anybody with half a brain should have been able to tell many years ago that none of the things you just listed is even remotely feasible using EVE's code - you would have to re-design the game from the ground up to put any of them in in a way that wouldn't be utter ****.
Look at the *controls* for walking in stations, for example - would you really want to have *meaningful* walking in stations (combat/etc) with *those* controls?
Or the massive lag in response time when flying in first person due to the 1 second server tick delay on every action...Would you *really* want to try to navigate within a planetary atmosphere through that?
Even comet mining - mining ships could never keep up with anything that could possibly be considered a "comet" flying through space... And even if they could you'd first have to scan it, track it, warp to its old position, and catch up to it before you could even start mining... It is just a silly idea.
I mean come on - sure CCP is stupid to keep promising things they could never possibly deliver - but at some point you are also just an idiot for betting sucked in by the empty hype.
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Laufey Sif Tetseldottir
Blue Lagoon Appreciation Society
46
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Posted - 2016.09.04 12:21:13 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Laufey Sif Tetseldottir wrote:Because CCP does not deliver ?
Walk in Station Atmospheric Flight Planet exploration Comet mining Asteroid exploration/Archeology by walking Drug dealing in station etc etc
Anyone remember that Minecraft redstone on a POS picture showed at random fanfest ?
Probably it's a part of the problem. Anybody with half a brain should have been able to tell many years ago that none of the things you just listed is even remotely feasible using EVE's code - you would have to re-design the game from the ground up to put any of them in in a way that wouldn't be utter ****. Look at the *controls* for walking in stations, for example - would you really want to have *meaningful* walking in stations (combat/etc) with *those* controls? Or the massive lag in response time when flying in first person due to the 1 second server tick delay on every action...Would you *really* want to try to navigate within a planetary atmosphere through that? Even comet mining - mining ships could never keep up with anything that could possibly be considered a "comet" flying through space... And even if they could you'd first have to scan it, track it, warp to its old position, and catch up to it before you could even start mining... It is just a silly idea. I mean come on - sure CCP is stupid to keep promising things they could never possibly deliver - but at some point you are also just an idiot for being sucked in by the empty hype.
So everybody have to be a ******* software engineer to be able to discuss ? All I see whatever the technical requirement is that CCP promises some gameplay features, some new content, that they never delivered. I don't know what's doable or not, and I don't care, if CCP told me, what about this features ? you will have this, you will do this, I think they know what they are talking about cause that's their job, not mine.
And the fact that I could have been sucked into some empty hype is not the issue, CCP not delivering is still a part of the problem. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
708
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Posted - 2016.09.04 12:43:36 -
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Laufey Sif Tetseldottir wrote:So everybody have to be a ******* software engineer to be able to discuss ? All I see whatever the technical requirement is that CCP promises some gameplay features, some new content, that they never delivered. I don't know what's doable or not, and I don't care, if CCP told me, what about this features ? you will have this, you will do this, I think they know what they are talking about cause that's their job, not mine.
And the fact that I could have been sucked into some empty hype is not the issue, CCP not delivering is still a part of the problem. To be fair they've been more reasonable with their promises for the past few years here - I don't think anything you listed was proposed *recently* was it?
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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