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Pantorus Necraliss
EyEs.FR La Division Bleue
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Posted - 2016.07.16 20:58:05 -
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Hi guys,
Scimi and Onei are supposed to fly, most part of the time, as the single remote of a small gang. One of the best tactic is to fly around the action, avoiding to be tackle to stay alive.
Scimi do it pretty fine, mainly due to his agility, and the Oneiros ...just can't.
If we fit a nanofiber on a Oneiros it just kill his buffer, if we fit an armor plate the tanking is decent but it destroy his agility.
I'm thinking about 2 possibility to help the little dude :
- Add a role bonus that reduce the plate mass addition by 90%
- Add a role bonus that boost the efficiency of armor layering and layering plating
...Or the problem may have anorther way to be solve : rework of Scimi and Oneiros to really fit them in the role of small fleet single logi.
Remove the 2 Tracking comp bonus and switching them as active tank bonus : allowing them to self-rep with a nice agility but having less buffer
Possibility of new bonus : 20 % capacity for local ancillary modules --> cruiser levels 5 % armor rep amount (Oneiros) / shield booster amount (Scimi) --> logi levels
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Frostys Virpio
Yet another corpdot.
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Posted - 2016.07.16 21:21:14 -
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I'm pretty sure they are not designed to be solo logi for small gang as much as they are designed to work without cap feed support. |
Lyra Gerie
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.07.16 21:44:35 -
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I think the T3 sub systems cover the small gang repair pretty well, even if it didn't a T2 logi frig might give you what you're looking for. |
Pantorus Necraliss
EyEs.FR La Division Bleue
58
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Posted - 2016.07.16 22:30:29 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:I'm pretty sure they are not designed to be solo logi for small gang as much as they are designed to work without cap feed support.
Well I'm not sure about it, Guardian and Basi can remote with 4 T2 large rep with no problem in spider tanking, Scimi and Oneiros just can't run that much reps.
If we choose a logi only for his efficiency at remote repping, Scimi and Oneiros are no use. Basi and Guardian do it way better.
Maybe that was the intention long time ago, but players didn't use them in large fleet. The Scimi have found a very good use in fast small and medium gangs due to his ability to distance danger, been hard to catch and remote team with 2 or 3 large remote rep.
The Oneiros have the same purpose but have not way to distance danger or been hard to catch due to his mass and lack of agility and speed... |
Pantorus Necraliss
EyEs.FR La Division Bleue
58
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Posted - 2016.07.16 22:34:02 -
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Lyra Gerie wrote:I think the T3 sub systems cover the small gang repair pretty well, even if it didn't a T2 logi frig might give you what you're looking for.
T3 destro are awesome, yes ;)
Guardian and Basi are like Chrome, Scimi are like Firefox, ....Oneiros are like Internet Explorer |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
3391
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Posted - 2016.07.16 22:44:27 -
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A scimi and onerios can both use 4 large reps cap stable and with drones to add will rep MORE than a basi and guardian with 4 large reps. The are some guardian and basi fits that use 5 reps though which will let them match the scimi onerios.
The advantages of the scimi and onerios is not relying on a partner. If one guardian or basi gets Jammed, damped or neuted then both turn off. If one guardian dies, both become useless. Onerios and scimi don't need to stay close to their partners either.
The onerios and scimi are fine. But id love them to get a remote sebo bonus instead of a remote tracking computer bonus.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
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Posted - 2016.07.17 01:37:22 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:A scimi and onerios can both use 4 large reps cap stable and with drones to add will rep MORE than a basi and guardian with 4 large reps. The are some guardian and basi fits that use 5 reps though which will let them match the scimi onerios.
The advantages of the scimi and onerios is not relying on a partner. If one guardian or basi gets Jammed, damped or neuted then both turn off. If one guardian dies, both become useless. Onerios and scimi don't need to stay close to their partners either.
The onerios and scimi are fine. But id love them to get a remote sebo bonus instead of a remote tracking computer bonus.
I agree with everything except the last sentence.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.07.17 02:21:51 -
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they are fine as is and great ships to fly
your gang needs to learn how to screen from the sounds of it
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Gian Bal
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
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Posted - 2016.07.24 10:01:12 -
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There is already a fix to this mate. It's called "git gud scrub"
Litterally God
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