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Spleeden wakawaka
Starwind Enterprise
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Posted - 2016.07.17 06:40:04 -
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So I'm pretty new to solo pvp. Been doing some research. I've figured out how to effectively use the D-scan and stuff.
I'd like to stick to a vexor for now and nothing else. Here's my current build: https://o.smium.org/loadout/92971
What can be improved? Is a buffer tank an okay way to go for a vexor?
Before I go to bed tonight I'm going to be watching Vexor pvp vids to see what people are doing. I plan to study character's losses so I can see their fits to see what really works. Hopefully I can be as good as them one day. :)
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Valkin Mordirc
2188
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Posted - 2016.07.17 07:40:50 -
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I would meta the plate so you can get rid of the PDS and throw on a DDA or a Magstab.
Personally I would also fit for either full neut, or a full blasters as well. Only getting 400~ dps with a Vexor is a little weak, more so since you have a DPS wing. Two small neuts may pressure frigates, but anything else can probably deal with the neut pressure pretty easily.
Also even if they are a little more expensive, using the faction heavy drones is a semi-expensive way to bypassing the grind to tech 2 heavies. But as your just starting out using tech 1 drones isn't really something to worry about. Once you figure out how to fight with your ship is when you should incorporate the faction.
Local tanks are also something I would try. Buffer is fine, but generally for solo you want to be able to regen your tank, as you'll out last buffer tanks in general.
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Noah Reese
21
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Posted - 2016.07.17 07:56:52 -
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If you're new to solo PVP I'd start in a frigate, a Tristan for instance. Apart from being much cheaper to lose (which is going to happen a lot if you're new) they're not necessarily less survivable because a frigate has the speed to get out of trouble, be it warping off before caught, burning away or back to the gate.
On the fit itself I'll chime in with the above post. That T2 plate is hurting your fitting quite a bit and you should probably focus your fit a bit more, right now it's "a bit of everything". |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
436
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Posted - 2016.07.17 08:25:38 -
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Imo it a good idea to start in a vexor, easy to fly and can engage a whole lot and you dont die instantly if you **** up so its easy to learn with. Just dont go near hotspots.
On the fit, buffer doesnt need a medium cap booster, a small is fine (or a second web). This will also fix your fitting issues. Its a choice but if you go buffer id use light neutrons instead. Get a dda instead of the pds.
For rigs, just go triple trimark or 2 trimark + anti explo rig.
This gives you:
[Vexor, buffer] 1600mm Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Drone Damage Amplifier II Damage Control II
50MN Microwarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Hammerhead II x5 Acolyte II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
drones are up to choice, you either go max dps (2 heavies + 2 mediums + 1 light) or something like what i linked, as a newer player (in regards to pew) id use more light as frigs are your best target. You can easily drop a web for a cap booster if needed.
This gives you 450+ dps with 44k ehp, (or 575dps with heat and max dps drones). This alone is a very strong ship.
Once you get used to that something a bit harder to fly such as:
[Vexor, New Setup 3] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1
will serve you well, it tanks 544 dps with heat and a exile popped and youll put out 637dps preheat which is a lot. (downgrade guns till it fits if you dont have max fitting skill, it only needs rigging IV though, first try electrons and then try ions)
Lastly theres the shield brawl versions and the kitey ones, but those youll probably want to try later on as they are very hit and miss.
Small blasters are in general a good thing to fit to the vexor if you have fitting issues, the dps difference isnt great and the tracking is amazing. |
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
797
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Posted - 2016.07.17 08:31:09 -
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Noah Reese wrote:If you're new to solo PVP I'd start in a frigate, a Tristan for instance......
something like this is a great little learning ship, downgrade to meta fittings depending on skills and wallet:
[Tristan, RvB Standard] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Medium Shield Extender II Faint Scoped Warp Disruptor 5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Acolyte II x5
For Vexors, I like Neuts in the highslots.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1320
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Posted - 2016.07.17 09:15:36 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:....For Vexors, I like Neuts in the highslots.
I also like to waste a +25% damage to medium hybrid turret bonus all day. Why do 800dps when you have a neut.
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1560
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Posted - 2016.07.17 11:31:28 -
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paper dps is often not the deciding factor of fights.
Range control and capacitor warfare are often much more effective and neuts provide both. |
Paranoid Loyd
9248
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Posted - 2016.07.17 16:20:46 -
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I've used both setups, unless you know who/what you will be fighting the nueting platform is more versatile.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1321
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Posted - 2016.07.17 16:31:22 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:paper dps is often not the deciding factor of fights.
Range control and capacitor warfare are often much more effective and neuts provide both.
Ouuh, so he wants to fly an Arbitrator or a Curse. Why didn't he say so?
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1564
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Posted - 2016.07.18 06:59:52 -
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arbitrators have no neuting bonuses and actually do not have the power grid to support such a setup.
neuting vexors have been extremely popular and effective for years now, just because you're not using all the bonuses on a hull doesn't mean the fit is bad.
It's like saying you HAVE to fit a stratios with lasers because it's bonused for it, utter tripe. |
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elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1322
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Posted - 2016.07.18 09:33:46 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:arbitrators have no neuting bonuses and actually do not have the power grid to support such a setup.
neuting vexors have been extremely popular and effective for years now, just because you're not using all the bonuses on a hull doesn't mean the fit is bad.
It's like saying you HAVE to fit a stratios with lasers because it's bonused for it, utter tripe.
I never said you HAVE to fit lasers on a Stratios, I said you can and they help on pve setups. On a Vexor Navy Issue I get behind fitting a neut or two, depending on the rest of the setup. On a regular Vexor my OCD is squeeking.
Here is a question for you, just out of curiosity, I am looking for an attribute or a module that is too good in all situations on any boat. What attribute am I looking for?
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W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
437
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Posted - 2016.07.18 10:40:38 -
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Who cares, neut vexors are a legit fit (although i prefer the gun fits in general). They do allow you to beat t3ds which otherwise simply outbrawl you and they make your matchup vs frigs even better. |
Star Burstie
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
14
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Posted - 2016.07.25 10:37:36 -
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Ehmm t3ds drop like flies under a neuting vexor. |
Xuthi
Banzai Inc
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Posted - 2016.07.28 17:41:27 -
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got an example fit? |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
442
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Posted - 2016.07.28 18:16:26 -
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Take any vexor fit you like, remove guns, put neuts on. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance
1345
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Posted - 2016.07.29 04:38:37 -
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Xuthi wrote:got an example fit?
Only for you and this one time, I show you how not to fit a neut Vexor:
high: 4x mining laser II med: civilian afterburner, civilian shield booster, 2x cap recharger II low: 2x mining laser upgrade II, 2x co-processor II, bulk-head II
rig: cpu overclocking, 2x capacitor control circuit
Now with this amazing example how not to fit a ship neutralizing Vexor, you should have an idea, what would make more sense to put on.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
31916
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Posted - 2016.08.08 12:20:22 -
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elitatwo wrote:Xuthi wrote:got an example fit? Only for you and this one time, I show you how not to fit a neut Vexor: high: 4x mining laser II med: civilian afterburner, civilian shield booster, 2x cap recharger II low: 2x mining laser upgrade II, 2x co-processor II, bulk-head II rig: cpu overclocking, 2x capacitor control circuit Now with this amazing example how not to fit a ship neutralizing Vexor, you should have an idea, what would make more sense to put on. Excuse me for interrupting, but does the Vexor still have the drone mining yield bonus?
Edit: apparently it does.
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Al Nomadi
Morawins
13
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Posted - 2016.08.08 12:50:50 -
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As a PvP newbee I found that being able to stand on field for a bit longer gives you option to understand why you lost, at least. So I would start with big passive tank, get chip EG-603 implant and try this: [Vexor, scram kite] 1600mm Crystalline Carbonide Restrained Plates Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II 800mm Crystalline Carbonide Restrained Plates Drone Damage Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II
Dual 150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Dual 150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Dual 150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M Dual 150mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Hobgoblin II x4 Hammerhead II x1 Hammerhead II x1 Hammerhead II x1 Hammerhead II x1 Hammerhead II x1 Hobgoblin II x1 Federation Navy Ogre x2
Medium blasters will give you not much DPS at webifier range (8-10 km) and since your main damage comes from drones anyway, I would use the powergrid for better tank. Over 40 kEHP should give you time for couple of sling shoot attempts against kiter, dual web and scram should help against brawlers... Just do not orbit - use keep in range instead. Of cause speed and alignment time of a battleship is the issue with that fit, but you always trade something for something else. ;) |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1638
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Posted - 2016.08.10 05:06:16 -
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you cant sling shot with a 10mn AB
Scram kiting in a cruiser usually isn't very effective since most medium weapon systems have an easy time shooting out to 10km |
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