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Jason Galente
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
613
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Posted - 2016.07.21 23:04:57 -
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If you're new to the Intergalactic Summit fluid router channel, I thought I'd make a helpful guide to make your experience as friendly and productive as possible.
Step 1: Block Diana Kim and Anyanka Funk
The end.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Cait Nathair
Ciggy Butt Brains. Circle-Of-Two
16
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Posted - 2016.07.22 04:29:13 -
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Very thorough and well thought out, Jason. Can I just make a suggestion for an edit? My hair is now no longer up for discussion. |
Templar Thal Vadam
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
0
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Posted - 2016.07.22 04:32:10 -
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Oh, and do not forget talking about "honor duels." |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1488
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Posted - 2016.07.22 05:10:36 -
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It's not even Tuesday. What sorcery is this ?
TL:DR are posted on TUESDAYS, not THURSDAYS
H E R E S Y E R E S Y
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2708
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Posted - 2016.07.22 05:24:03 -
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Oh, well, that indecent person even brought it here. I guess I need to give some explanation.
Jason Galente is an unpleasant offensive person, who shows disrespect to his opponent during arguments and degrades himself to slanders and straightforward lies about other persons (I have collected quite a few evidences, and if someone will dare to doubt my words - please write me a NeoCom message, I will gladly provide you with numerous examples).
When he was challenged to answer for his lies and defend his honor, at first he was accepting idea of fighting in person, then he became threatening, showing how "strong and mighty" he was, and after he saw it didn't work - he simply started to avoid the fight, hiding behind his suddenly appeared principle of "not beating peoples of smaller size and different gender", which... well, didn't show itself when he was describing how he was going to beat me.
Attempt to fight him in ships didn't bring desired effect, as he was referencing to some sort of rule (that was actually contradicting official ones), like only he had right to say about whether the place of duel shall be. Obviously, he set it to Maker forsaken null security system, where he admitted earlier, he didn't guarantee you won't be blobbed.
Both of these cases were documented as well, and chat transcripts are available on request (as far as I am aware, putting them here is against the rules).
But in any way, amount of personal attacks and insults coming from this person is really disrupting, just as his attempts at representing himself as honorable person.
I will strongly recommend blocking him instead if you are looking for a respectful and polite conversation.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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morion
Lighting Build
106
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Posted - 2016.07.22 06:22:46 -
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honor duel fire storm |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
8497
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Posted - 2016.07.22 06:25:06 -
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Wouldn't it be amazing if the CRC actually enforced derailment rules, like they do in every other forum on the CRC-moderated portion of Galnet?
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1775
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Posted - 2016.07.22 06:28:10 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Wouldn't it be amazing if the CRC actually enforced derailment rules, like they do in every other forum on the CRC-moderated portion of Galnet? If they did, even Kuvakei himself would say his Utopia pales in comparison.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Utari Onzo
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1232
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Posted - 2016.07.22 06:52:53 -
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Personally I don't think this forum has had much to offer to anyone in terms of serious, constructive or informative discussion for some time. You can point at usual suspects and say they're the reason, but the truth is no one cares on the IGS to self police themselves and to sit down and be reasonable. It's too tempting to poke sticks into the fire and watch what happens.
There are some interesting conversations that happen from time to time of course, and worthy reports or news here, but it's in spite of.. Well. Spite. That's what's permeated into this forum, a spitefullness and mischief and why the TL;DR of this forum should read thusly;
TL;DR Enter at your own risk, entertainment and petty sniping trumps discussion.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Yarosara Ruil
465
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Posted - 2016.07.22 07:13:45 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Personally I don't think this forum has had much to offer to anyone in terms of serious, constructive or informative discussion for some time. You can point at usual suspects and say they're the reason, but the truth is no one cares on the IGS to self police themselves and to sit down and be reasonable.
You used to be cool Mister Onzo... |
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
583
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Posted - 2016.07.22 07:24:23 -
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Utari is 100% right in his assessment. I take anything said on this forum with a grain of salt the size of Athra and I am only very rarely serious on it myself (only in those instances where seriousness can't be avoided). The simple fact of the matter is that there is no foolproof mechanism to separate the wheat from the chaff and the chaff is really rather loud and frequent in its posts.
As to whether Mr. Galente's recommendations would cure this ailment: No comment. ;-)
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Utari Onzo
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1235
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Posted - 2016.07.22 08:52:00 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:Personally I don't think this forum has had much to offer to anyone in terms of serious, constructive or informative discussion for some time. You can point at usual suspects and say they're the reason, but the truth is no one cares on the IGS to self police themselves and to sit down and be reasonable. You used to be cool Mister Onzo...
Am I wrong?
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Yarosara Ruil
465
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Posted - 2016.07.22 09:08:51 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Am I wrong?
Well... No, not really.
But while I do like the chaos and randomness that goes on in IGS, which I often find myself contributing copiously to it when I'm capable of, think of the alternative? The Summit, as a serious and controlled experience, is more often than not silent as a grave, with only the redundant small talk breaking the monotony. Because frankly, there's only so much civility and political debate one can have before everyone starts dozing off.
And while we can chastise Miss Kim for being an overbearing zealot, more than half of the references to Tibus Heth done in the past month were made by people trying to incite a reaction from Miss Kim, due to how predictably she defends her long time hero.
Who is more to blame? Miss Kim for being herself? Or everyone else for making a show out of her?
...
Funk on the other hand can go suck on a Lemon...
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1256
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Posted - 2016.07.22 09:22:06 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:Am I wrong? Well... No, not really. But while I do like the chaos and randomness that goes on in IGS, which I often find myself contributing copiously to it when I'm capable of, think of the alternative? The Summit, as a serious and controlled experience, is more often than not silent as a grave, with only the redundant small talk breaking the monotony. Because frankly, there's only so much civility and political debate one can have before everyone starts dozing off. And while we can chastise Miss Kim for being an overbearing zealot, more than half of the references to Tibus Heth done in the past month were made by people trying to incite a reaction from Miss Kim, due to how predictably she defends her long time hero. Who is more to blame? Miss Kim for being herself? Or everyone else for making a show out of her? ... Funk on the other hand can go suck on a Lemon...
*Everyone* is to blame! We are all bad people! Let's all sit in a corner and brood about it!
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2711
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Posted - 2016.07.22 09:23:07 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Personally I don't think this forum has had much to offer to anyone in terms of serious, constructive or informative discussion for some time. You can point at usual suspects and say they're the reason, but the truth is no one cares on the IGS to self police themselves and to sit down and be reasonable. It's too tempting to poke sticks into the fire and watch what happens.
There are some interesting conversations that happen from time to time of course, and worthy reports or news here, but it's in spite of.. Well. Spite. That's what's permeated into this forum, a spitefullness and mischief and why the TL;DR of this forum should read thusly;
TL;DR Enter at your own risk, entertainment and petty sniping trumps discussion. How many times I tried to bring philosophical discussions to forum? And what I was getting instead of conversations? Makotos, Osyns, and now Jasons.
Most of them don't even understand concept of honor, and can only bark from behind the screen, like they have nothing better to do.
I have had a couple of actual fights with those, who were insulting Caldari uniform, but that was more exception than the rule. I commend their honor and forrgive their slanders. Most of the, as you called them, usual suspects, just do this stuff without fear of punishment for their misdeeds.
I was trying to push their noses to this, to at least make them feel shame for what they do, but something tells me they only love such sort of attention...
What to do with this and how to improve the situation?... I don't know. I can only assume that strict moderation with severe physical punishment even for tiny slander could solve this problem. I am not sure CONCORD would ever go for this, so all we have to do is point them and shame, hoping that someday their conscience might awake.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Utari Onzo
Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1235
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Posted - 2016.07.22 10:22:35 -
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Ms Ruil my point is more there is a distinct lack of balance between the two. It often appears there is no room for serious discussion outside of a few exceptions (Sojourn and the odd news report spring to mind). Lamentably it seems the IGS userbase prefers sitting firmly in the tongue in cheek, petty sniping department. I don't mind a bit of that but when I see discussion after discussion derailed with jabs at people's character or bets when such and such a person will show up to "ruin everything" I'm reminded why I'm giving up socialising with the general capsuleer populace. There are threads for that kind of behaviour and I often indulge, am I so wrong to ask for threads where the tongue in cheek is kept voluntarily in check?
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Yarosara Ruil
468
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Posted - 2016.07.22 11:41:11 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:There are threads for that kind of behaviour and I often indulge, am I so wrong to ask for threads where the tongue in cheek is kept voluntarily in check?
Not all of us have that amount of self-control of mental fortitude... Some of us are actually so unhinged from our daily lives as capsuleers that we need to let ourselves go psychologically to cope with, well, everything.
Can you really blame them from wanting to escape from the sad reality that goes on in New Eden and find solace in their merriment and buffoonery?
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Jason Galente
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
628
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Posted - 2016.07.22 11:42:59 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:It's not even Tuesday. What sorcery is this ?
TL:DR are posted on TUESDAYS, not THURSDAYS
H E R E S Y E R E S Y
IT WAS TIME FOR A CHANGE VALERIE
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1301
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Posted - 2016.07.22 13:24:00 -
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I miss the TL;DRs! They coming back anytime soon? Understandable if it's a no.. |
Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
68
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Posted - 2016.07.22 14:21:08 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Oh, well, that indecent person even brought it here. I guess I need to give some explanation.
Jason Galente is an unpleasant offensive person, who shows disrespect to his opponent during arguments and degrades himself to slanders and straightforward lies about other persons (I have collected quite a few evidences, and if someone will dare to doubt my words - please write me a NeoCom message, I will gladly provide you with numerous examples).
When he was challenged to answer for his lies and defend his honor, at first he was accepting idea of fighting in person, then he became threatening, showing how "strong and mighty" he was, and after he saw it didn't work - he simply started to avoid the fight, hiding behind his suddenly appeared principle of "not beating peoples of smaller size and different gender", which... well, didn't show itself when he was describing how he was going to beat me.
Attempt to fight him in ships didn't bring desired effect, as he was referencing to some sort of rule (that was actually contradicting official ones), like only he had right to say about whether the place of duel shall be. Obviously, he set it to Maker forsaken null security system, where he admitted earlier, he didn't guarantee you won't be blobbed.
Both of these cases were documented as well, and chat transcripts are available on request (as far as I am aware, putting them here is against the rules).
But in any way, amount of personal attacks and insults coming from this person is really disrupting, just as his attempts at representing himself as honorable person.
I will strongly recommend blocking him instead if you are looking for a respectful and polite conversation. Null-sec is our home when we leave it we(horde-folk) are in danger due to being war targets of the Imperium but you are just at war with the Gallente so you would be in equal danger going to null-sec as we would be in hi-sec or low-sec |
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Nitshe Razvedka
1017
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Posted - 2016.07.22 14:55:48 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Personally I don't think this forum has had much to offer to anyone in terms of serious, constructive or informative discussion for some time...
Hey Onzo, don't be so down hearted. I have been sooooo deep cover amongst old school pirates n mercs I lost some of my Caldari heritage. Just these few days I've learnt: Tea ceremonies, honour duels, unisex showers, a little about Heth somebody and Diana secretly loves me. Can't be all that bad.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2721
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Posted - 2016.07.22 14:58:15 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote: Null-sec is our home when we leave it we(horde-folk) are in danger due to being war targets of the Imperium but you are just at war with the Gallente so you would be in equal danger going to null-sec as we would be in hi-sec or low-sec
Poor endangered species!
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
68
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Posted - 2016.07.22 15:06:42 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote: Null-sec is our home when we leave it we(horde-folk) are in danger due to being war targets of the Imperium but you are just at war with the Gallente so you would be in equal danger going to null-sec as we would be in hi-sec or low-sec
Poor endangered species! So you are scared of going to null space for your honor duels alright give me a specific station and a time and we can settle this dispute of hurt "honor"(feels) for both me and Jason if he agrees to it |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2721
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Posted - 2016.07.22 15:21:44 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote: Null-sec is our home when we leave it we(horde-folk) are in danger due to being war targets of the Imperium but you are just at war with the Gallente so you would be in equal danger going to null-sec as we would be in hi-sec or low-sec
Poor endangered species! So you are scared of going to null space for your honor duels alright give me a specific station and a time and we can settle this dispute of hurt "honor"(feels) for both me and Jason if he agrees to it Any unocuppied by frogs and minmaruns station will work. Something like Okkamon will be perfect for me, maybe better something like Prism because of low population who could disturb the fight (Okkamon could be busy). Time? Ask me in NeoCom so we can synchronize, I believe last time you were too busy to come, but I still give you a chance.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Xadiran
Moira. Villore Accords
59
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Posted - 2016.07.22 17:27:00 -
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I wouldn't advise it, Slayer.
I invited her out to settle things with a sparring match a few days ago, hand to hand, on a station in Yulai. She illegally smuggled aboard 4 handguns and started shooting, then ran when automated security systems tried to incapacitate her.
As much as she prattles on about honor, she has no real sense of it. Diana is nothing more than a rodent, a pest that will not go away.
Oh, and I believe there are some nice people from CONCORD that would like to have a word with you, rat. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2724
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Posted - 2016.07.22 18:10:00 -
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I wouldn't advise listening to Xadiran.
He challenged me to a sparring match, but he got into arena before me, and rigged it with dangerous sonic crowd-control weapons, and I didn't find permission to use them on inhabited station either. He was claiming them to be belonged to CONCORD, but after checking allowed CONCORD defenses, I didn't find any mention about such sort of weaponry.
After his trap was blown, Xadiran actually refused to meet me in really neutral arena on the same station, sending instead CONCORD squad to get me (my sequrity status is below allowed by Yulai).
This man has shown himself as a liar already in IGS NeoCom channel, and now shown himself as lacking honor gallentean. I have trusted him twice, and twice instead of meeting me in unarmed hand to hand combat he was trying just to trap me: first time with his undocumented sonic trap, and second time by sending CONCORD against me instead of coming himself.
(Second time my location was known only to him, as I have sent him personalized message, and he openly confirmed he gave it to CONCORD instead of showing up himself).
Also currently I have no troubles with CONCORD besides my security status issue.
He shall not be trusted or believed. Be warned about this gallentean and don't fall for his traps.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Luna Lapointe
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2016.07.22 18:24:14 -
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You caught us, Kim, what can I say.
Xad very obviously brought with him several 200+ pound devices, got permission to renovate the gymnasium, and permits to install said devices in the wall just to spring a trap on you, all within the span of 10 hours. Truly, a masterpiece of trap-setting
And of course, the pi+¿ce de r+¬sistance was me telling you about them ahead of time, because we all know traps work best when people are informed of their existance. In no way were the devices under the control of station security for the purpose of keeping things in there civil.
And when that didn't work, Xad sent CONCORD, who are his own personal army the way, after you. It's not like they were hunting you because of any felonies you had just comitted.
In case your tiny little brain can't process all that, it was sarcasm, honey. |
Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
68
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Posted - 2016.07.22 18:43:53 -
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Luna Lapointe wrote:You caught us, Kim, what can I say.
Xad very obviously brought with him several 200+ pound devices, got permission to renovate the gymnasium, and permits to install said devices in the wall just to spring a trap on you, all within the span of 10 hours. Truly, a masterpiece of trap-setting
And of course, the pi+¿ce de r+¬sistance was me telling you about them ahead of time, because we all know traps work best when people are informed of their existance. In no way were the devices under the control of station security for the purpose of keeping things in there civil.
And when that didn't work, Xad sent CONCORD, who are his own personal army the way, after you. It's not like they were hunting you because of any felonies you had just comitted.
In case your tiny little brain can't process all that, it was sarcasm, honey. This is why I am using combat nanites instead of a nova knife |
Xadiran
Moira. Villore Accords
60
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Posted - 2016.07.22 18:55:14 -
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As much as I would love to see Diana torn apart by nano-lysins, I'm pretty sure those are even more illegal than handguns on a station. Come to think of it, they're pretty illegal everywhere. |
Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
68
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Posted - 2016.07.22 18:56:32 -
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Xadiran wrote:As much as I would love to see Diana torn apart by nano-lysins, I'm pretty sure those are even more illegal than handguns on a station. Come to think of it, they're pretty illegal everywhere. They just boost my physical strength and durability |
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