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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:33:21 -
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I'm sorry, Dirty, but counting numbers of systems is silly.
What matters is population count, which changes this considerably.
Don't let yourself get fooled.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Faylee Freir
Facetious Indifference Vendetta Mercenary Group
262
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:38:19 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Dracvlad wrote:We could go gank some freighter wrecks, 2 Catalysts can do it in a 0.5 system if we don't get shot by anyone before CONCORD comes to blap us. No, you can't, because there's a CONCORD blob there... ... just sayjan. This is an example of someone with inferior knowledge of mechanics... Granted only a handful of people know what im referring to.
HTFU
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
538
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:42:40 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I'm sorry, Dirty, but counting numbers of systems is silly.
What matters is population count, which changes this considerably.
Don't let yourself get fooled. I didn't bring it up - I just pointed out that the way he was using it was silly
Population count *would* work...although the null-blobs raise the population of 0.0 fairly considerably...that one is harder to put firm numbers on.
And I did already say the only reason more die in high sec is because the vast majority only fly in high sec.
As a percentage, more of the freighters that fly outside of high sec die...
But it is still silly/ridiculous to say that "more of them die outside of high sec"... |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:44:03 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dracvlad wrote:We could go gank some freighter wrecks, 2 Catalysts can do it in a 0.5 system if we don't get shot by anyone before CONCORD comes to blap us. No, you can't, because there's a CONCORD blob there... ... just sayjan. This is an example of someone with inferior knowledge of mechanics... Granted only a handful of people know what im referring to. Elaborate
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:48:11 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Solecist Project wrote:I'm sorry, Dirty, but counting numbers of systems is silly.
What matters is population count, which changes this considerably.
Don't let yourself get fooled. I didn't bring it up - I just pointed out that the way he was using it was silly Population count *would* work...although the null-blobs raise the population of 0.0 fairly considerably...that one is harder to put firm numbers on. And I did already say the only reason more die in high sec is because the vast majority only fly in high sec. As a percentage, more of the freighters that fly outside of high sec die... But it is still silly/ridiculous to say that "more of them die outside of high sec"... Sorry, tired. Probably missed it.
And yeah ofc more die in highsec... ... the population / amount of systems is way higher. ... freighters putside hs might actually have an escort. (?) ... more individuals owning them for themselves compared to ... ... people in alliances carrying loads for half the alliance.
I can't see how it's not obvious that more die in hs.
Maybe i should get sleep.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7946
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:49:26 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Are ag honestly complaining about ganking something being hard?
This might be my favorite thread of the year.
I didn't complain.
Dracvlad didn't complain.
Solecist is not AG.
What's wrong with you Ralph? You usually don't post so poorly. Has the game gotten so bad it's soured your mood?
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
538
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:50:24 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Faylee Freir wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dracvlad wrote:We could go gank some freighter wrecks, 2 Catalysts can do it in a 0.5 system if we don't get shot by anyone before CONCORD comes to blap us. No, you can't, because there's a CONCORD blob there... ... just sayjan. This is an example of someone with inferior knowledge of mechanics... Granted only a handful of people know what im referring to. Elaborate I actually found this out myself only recently when I posted a thread in the Features & Ideas forum to propose a nerf to CONCORD to compensate for what I perceived to be the problem of having CONCORD already on grid.
Apparently even with CONCORD pre-spawned on grid you still get a significant delay before they act. I forget the exact numbers quoted - but it was only something on the order of 10-ish seconds instead of 22....so certainly harder - but doable, in theory... |
Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:50:27 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dracvlad wrote:We could go gank some freighter wrecks, 2 Catalysts can do it in a 0.5 system if we don't get shot by anyone before CONCORD comes to blap us. No, you can't, because there's a CONCORD blob there... ... just sayjan. This is an example of someone with inferior knowledge of mechanics... Granted only a handful of people know what im referring to. Well, then spit it out.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:59:30 -
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A positive sidenote...
I just now saved a fruit fly from drowning in my radler and put it somewhere where it can dry up again.
Silly fruit fly...
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.16 21:59:59 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Are ag honestly complaining about ganking something being hard?
This might be my favorite thread of the year. I didn't complain. Dracvlad didn't complain. Solecist is not AG. What's wrong with you Ralph? You usually don't post so poorly. Has the game gotten so bad it's soured your mood? Loooooooong day, i may just have been projecting.
Alls well now though, back to my old tanked illiterate self
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.08.16 22:11:19 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Faylee Freir wrote: I actually found this out myself only recently when I posted a thread in the Features & Ideas forum to propose a nerf to CONCORD to compensate for what I perceived to be the problem of having CONCORD already on grid.
Apparently even with CONCORD pre-spawned on grid you still get a significant delay before they act. I forget the exact numbers quoted - but it was only something on the order of 10-ish seconds instead of 22....so certainly harder - but doable, in theory...
When i was ganking in my tripple volley thrasher with concord on grid ... ... i got two volleys out before i died. That's 4ish seconds iirc. Been a while. I am not aware of the hp of freighter wrecks, but i thought it's more than 2k-ish. Well the 10-ish seconds did come from a ganker who was arguing with me - and I don't care enough to experiment and find out I'm afraid...so take it with a grain of salt...
But I"m pretty sure it is what Faylee is referring to in any case
edit: Oh and freighter wreck HP I did look up not long ago, so that one I actually do have a number for - 15k hp |
Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.17 08:04:51 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Faylee Freir wrote: I actually found this out myself only recently when I posted a thread in the Features & Ideas forum to propose a nerf to CONCORD to compensate for what I perceived to be the problem of having CONCORD already on grid.
Apparently even with CONCORD pre-spawned on grid you still get a significant delay before they act. I forget the exact numbers quoted - but it was only something on the order of 10-ish seconds instead of 22....so certainly harder - but doable, in theory...
When i was ganking in my tripple volley thrasher with concord on grid ... ... i got two volleys out before i died. That's 4ish seconds iirc. Been a while. I am not aware of the hp of freighter wrecks, but i thought it's more than 2k-ish. Well the 10-ish seconds did come from a ganker who was arguing with me - and I don't care enough to experiment and find out I'm afraid...so take it with a grain of salt... But I"m pretty sure it is what Faylee is referring to in any case edit: Oh and freighter wreck HP I did look up not long ago, so that one I actually do have a number for - 15k hp Well, we'll never know because it seems she's just air.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Faylee Freir
Facetious Indifference Vendetta Mercenary Group
264
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Posted - 2016.08.17 12:08:42 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Faylee Freir wrote: I actually found this out myself only recently when I posted a thread in the Features & Ideas forum to propose a nerf to CONCORD to compensate for what I perceived to be the problem of having CONCORD already on grid.
Apparently even with CONCORD pre-spawned on grid you still get a significant delay before they act. I forget the exact numbers quoted - but it was only something on the order of 10-ish seconds instead of 22....so certainly harder - but doable, in theory...
When i was ganking in my tripple volley thrasher with concord on grid ... ... i got two volleys out before i died. That's 4ish seconds iirc. Been a while. I am not aware of the hp of freighter wrecks, but i thought it's more than 2k-ish. Well the 10-ish seconds did come from a ganker who was arguing with me - and I don't care enough to experiment and find out I'm afraid...so take it with a grain of salt... But I"m pretty sure it is what Faylee is referring to in any case edit: Oh and freighter wreck HP I did look up not long ago, so that one I actually do have a number for - 15k hp Well, we'll never know because it seems she's just air. The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.
Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.
HTFU
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.17 12:15:13 -
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Note to self : Dont share secrets with faylee.
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Faylee Freir
Facetious Indifference Vendetta Mercenary Group
264
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Posted - 2016.08.17 12:17:58 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Note to self : Dont share secrets with faylee. Haha yeah i know im a tease.
HTFU
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.17 13:27:21 -
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And just air.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Omar Alharazaad
Nefarious Porpoise
3061
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Posted - 2016.08.17 15:01:35 -
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Faylee produces results. I can attest to this due to a certain amount of envy occurring during his/her stint in Lords. Battleships were molested. Feelings were hurt. Frigatry was running rampant. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a reluctance to divulge sekrets as being without knowledge.
I may judge harshly those I deem unworthy, but on the other hand I will gracefully give credit where I believe it is due.
Not saying take it as gospel, I'm just saying the benefit of the doubt perhaps is in order.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
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Posted - 2016.08.17 21:21:58 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Faylee produces results. I can attest to this due to a certain amount of envy occurring during his/her stint in Lords. Battleships were molested. Feelings were hurt. Frigatry was running rampant. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a reluctance to divulge sekrets as being without knowledge.
I may judge harshly those I deem unworthy, but on the other hand I will gracefully give credit where I believe it is due.
Not saying take it as gospel, I'm just saying the benefit of the doubt perhaps is in order.
I had noted Faylee from before somewhere. I instantly recognised the name, posts with a lot of knowledge which is very evident.
Not air at all... I would agree.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
325
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Posted - 2016.08.17 22:50:00 -
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Faylee Freir wrote: The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.
Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.
You don't need to explain the mechanic. Now that we know it exists and that you how to use it, all we have to do is fly something shiny enough for you to use it, while we record as many details as possible.
Then we take it to Sisi and try what we think you did.
A signature :o
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
549
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Posted - 2016.08.17 23:03:36 -
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Shallanna Yassavi wrote:Faylee Freir wrote: The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.
Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.
You don't need to explain the mechanic. Now that we know it exists and that you how to use it, all we have to do is fly something shiny enough for you to use it, while we record as many details as possible. Then we take it to Sisi and try what we think you did. Well...if you do....don't forget to pre-spawn concord to make him use it |
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
760
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Posted - 2016.08.17 23:10:12 -
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Shallanna Yassavi wrote:Faylee Freir wrote: The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.
Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.
You don't need to explain the mechanic. Now that we know it exists and that you how to use it, all we have to do is fly something shiny enough for you to use it, while we record as many details as possible. Then we take it to Sisi and try what we think you did. If it's the one that allows you to appear to be cloaked without a cloak fit even for a few seconds after you start shooting, then no recording will help you. It's a good glitch, but not something that you can work out without it being explained.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
550
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Posted - 2016.08.17 23:18:43 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:Faylee Freir wrote: The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.
Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.
You don't need to explain the mechanic. Now that we know it exists and that you how to use it, all we have to do is fly something shiny enough for you to use it, while we record as many details as possible. Then we take it to Sisi and try what we think you did. If it's the one that allows you to appear to be cloaked without a cloak fit even for a few seconds after you start shooting, then no recording will help you. It's a good glitch, but not something that you can work out without it being explained. While true - if one recorded someone using that glitch (particularly if you did so a few times in a row) - one could get the person using it banned... Which could be a decent consolation prize. |
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