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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2136
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Posted - 2016.08.12 13:59:28 -
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baltec1 wrote:Maekchu wrote:Sandy Point wrote:I just do not recall the extent of hostility I see present toward anyone who wishes not to engage in PVP. Oh my sweet summer child. If you think "Uninstall" or "GTFO" is toxic, then you haven't experienced the toxicity coming from carebears that gets caught in PvP. I will use the term "carebear", since not all PvE'ers are carebears. While it is true, that the usual attitude originating from PvP'ers is "Get gud or GTFO". I hardly see this as toxic behavior, or at least not even close to the level of toxicity I have experienced from carebears. Let me just give a few examples from one of my recent wardecs. These are some of the terms used in mails on convoes by the enemy corp, when we used game mechanics to blow up their stuff or disrupt activity. - Piece of **** - ******* which is only doing **** - Should I invite you to dinner so you can become my little *****? - Human waste The funny thing is, these are not even that bad. Do you know how many times I've been told to die of cancer, go **** myself or jump off a bridge? Yes, the EvE community can be toxic. But from my experience, it rarely comes from PvP'ers, since most PvP'ers are not attached to their space assets and usually understands that one day ships will die. The vast majority of the toxicity comes from carebears, that suddenly finds themselves on the receiving end of a conflict. When we used to gank miners we set up a complaints form and I wish we had kept them around somewhere because the bitterness and hate would have made even the dark side step back.
And just why did you set up a complaints form, to rub it in that you had blown them up so you could get to them personally and make yourself feel superior. There you go...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
3386
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Posted - 2016.08.12 14:06:26 -
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Dracvlad wrote:And just why did you set up a complaints form, to rub it in that you had blown them up so you could get to them personally and make yourself feel superior. There you go...
Probably for the admins records etc
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2136
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Posted - 2016.08.12 14:10:09 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Dracvlad wrote:And just why did you set up a complaints form, to rub it in that you had blown them up so you could get to them personally and make yourself feel superior. There you go... Probably for the admins records etc
Thanks for that, yeah I have this mental impression of baltec1 with glasses on the end of his nose, peering at a mass of dusty papers from when can flipping ended
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
3386
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Posted - 2016.08.12 14:13:44 -
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so dravclad what is your stance on all this ganking stuff? it comes across to me as you are pretty much against it? or am i wrong?
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17840
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Posted - 2016.08.12 14:15:37 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Dracvlad wrote:And just why did you set up a complaints form, to rub it in that you had blown them up so you could get to them personally and make yourself feel superior. There you go... Probably for the admins records etc
Deflection.
Give them a form and they bug the corp members less, worked wonders as they bitched at an automated response rather than threaten to kill the families of our members and **** our pets. |
Solecist Project
32029
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Posted - 2016.08.12 14:24:53 -
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baltec1 wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Dracvlad wrote:And just why did you set up a complaints form, to rub it in that you had blown them up so you could get to them personally and make yourself feel superior. There you go... Probably for the admins records etc Deflection. Give them a form and they bug the corp members less, worked wonders as they bitched at an automated response rather than threaten to kill the families of our members and **** our pets. The worst part is that if someone like this would be your neighbor ... ... he would come over and do as he said.
But they call gankers sociopaths...
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2137
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Posted - 2016.08.12 14:36:36 -
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Lan Wang wrote:so dravclad what is your stance on all this ganking stuff? it comes across to me as you are pretty much against it? or am i wrong?
Well if you get past all the emo stuff produced by both sides, most notably the Gankers who immediately classify anyone who talks about balance as being against ganking.
Ganking should exist in this game period, it is a totally valid game play and creates content, the key aspect is not to let it get unbalanced or that mechanics are such that people feel that CCP have just left them to be taken advantage of.
My attitude is to propose adjustments in consequences, the most important is locking gankers out of NPC stations in hisec once -10. There are Citadels now so they still have a base.
The bumping mechanic needs to be adjusted ASAP, leaving people being bumped for hours is not great.
The loot scoping mechanic needs to be adjusted, the gankers avoid consequences by the use of a alt in a noob ship scooping to a DST and then the freighter pilot scooping into his hold from the DST.
That would make it less of a free ride, make it harder. But I get told that I want to block ganking by making it impossible, well nope, that is more skin in the game for them.
Does that help?
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17841
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Posted - 2016.08.12 14:43:57 -
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Dracvlad wrote: The loot scoping mechanic needs to be adjusted, the gankers avoid consequences by the use of a alt in a noob ship scooping to a DST and then the freighter pilot scooping into his hold from the DST.
You keep on saying this but have yet to explain how you squeeze a 1 million m3 package of freight containers through a 60k m3 hold. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26590
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Posted - 2016.08.12 14:51:42 -
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Please explain how pointing out that it is entirely possible to safely PvE in Eve, without falling victim to the people that you disparage as "griefers", by taking responsibility for your own safety and using the game mechanics to your advantage, is toxic.
Campaigning for increased safety for those that can't be arsed to put in any effort, when the game is already ridiculously safe for those that do, erodes one of the cornerstones of the game. That is both anathema to the nature of the game and makes the efforts of those that do put in the effort worthless.
You constantly appear to be advocating for changes that are the equivalent of a nanny state, which erodes personal choice and responsibility.
I would suggest that you educate the people you claim to want to nurture and protect from the depredations of others, the problem is that the majority of them don't want to listen or follow the advice that you may give, because it involves the expenditure of effort.
It's almost like a relationship where one party tries to mould the other into something else, and then buggers off when the other party changes because the relationship is now boring.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2137
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:12:43 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote: The loot scoping mechanic needs to be adjusted, the gankers avoid consequences by the use of a alt in a noob ship scooping to a DST and then the freighter pilot scooping into his hold from the DST.
You keep on saying this but have yet to explain how you squeeze a 1 million m3 package of freight containers through a 60k m3 hold.
62.5k hold at level 5.
You are diverting attention from the basic mechanic issue.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8562
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:14:34 -
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Dracvlad wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote: The loot scoping mechanic needs to be adjusted, the gankers avoid consequences by the use of a alt in a noob ship scooping to a DST and then the freighter pilot scooping into his hold from the DST.
You keep on saying this but have yet to explain how you squeeze a 1 million m3 package of freight containers through a 60k m3 hold. 62.5k hold at level 5. You are diverting attention from the basic mechanic issue.
Please, do answer his question.
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The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17841
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:15:50 -
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Dracvlad wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote: The loot scoping mechanic needs to be adjusted, the gankers avoid consequences by the use of a alt in a noob ship scooping to a DST and then the freighter pilot scooping into his hold from the DST.
You keep on saying this but have yet to explain how you squeeze a 1 million m3 package of freight containers through a 60k m3 hold. 62.5k hold at level 5. You are diverting attention from the basic mechanic issue.
I'm pointing out that glaring hole in your argument. |
Glamor Boy Fergison
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:17:11 -
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I've honestly tried to put up with the anti-social game design and players who insist on anti-social behavior. I've put up with senseless gankings, been scammed a few times, sat docked while war decs ticked down, stayed logged off for weeks while war dec corps insisted on prolonging war decs even when they didn't get any kills and have done my best to fit in with the game due to my love for the game potential.
In the process I've paid subscriptions on three accounts until I have accumulated a total of nearly 100m of skill points on my three alts. I've also tried to enjoy the aspects of the game that work for me while ignoring the scamming, ganking and general anti social behavior.
But the time has come for me to give up. The potential of enjoyment has finally dried up to the point where I simply don't log in any longer. All but one of my accounts have expired and been left that way. This last account was paid up until November, but I shan't be logging into it. Frankly I've not played on this account since last December.
I've tried in the past to make suggestions that would allow me to continue. I've tried to find ways to co-exist with the average Eve players. But all said and done, I've given up and will not be adding funds to the CCP coffers in the future. Instead I've switched over to another game and have made substantial investments (time and money) into that game over the last few months.
And you know what the odd things is to me? If CCP had done like so many other games have done and created a PvE server to allow members the choice of game style, I (and dozens of other ex players I've met) would continue enjoying the game far into the future. But they have refused to do so and the result is a gradually diminishing player community.
Who knows? Perhaps CCP will give it a try some day and perhaps I'll return if the option of PvE gameplay is enabled. But until then, I've given up.
Forced PvP is not the way I choose to play Eve so I will no longer try to play Eve. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2137
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:20:39 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote: The loot scoping mechanic needs to be adjusted, the gankers avoid consequences by the use of a alt in a noob ship scooping to a DST and then the freighter pilot scooping into his hold from the DST.
You keep on saying this but have yet to explain how you squeeze a 1 million m3 package of freight containers through a 60k m3 hold. 62.5k hold at level 5. You are diverting attention from the basic mechanic issue. I'm pointing out that glaring hole in your argument.
Simply because most people don't use them...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26592
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:22:38 -
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Glamor Boy Fergison wrote:And you know what the odd things is to me? If CCP had done like so many other games have done and created a PvE server to allow members the choice of game style, I (and dozens of other ex players I've met) would continue enjoying the game far into the future. But they have refused to do so and the result is a gradually diminishing player community. Why would a developer that produces a game that is advertised as a PvP sandbox set up a PvE server for the same game?
That said there is the test server if you want to PvE in peace.
Quote:Who knows? Perhaps CCP will give it a try some day and perhaps I'll return if the option of PvE gameplay is enabled. But until then, I've given up. PvE play is already enabled, despite Eve being a primarily PvP game it is possible to PvE in almost complete safety.
Quote:Forced PvP is not the way I choose to play Eve so I will no longer try to play Eve. It's not forced at all, Eve is a PvP game and advertised as such.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17842
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:26:14 -
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Glamor Boy Fergison wrote:I've honestly tried to put up with the anti-social game design and players who insist on anti-social behavior. I've put up with senseless gankings, been scammed a few times, sat docked while war decs ticked down, stayed logged off for weeks while war dec corps insisted on prolonging war decs even when they didn't get any kills and have done my best to fit in with the game due to my love for the game potential.
In the process I've paid subscriptions on three accounts until I have accumulated a total of nearly 100m of skill points on my three alts. I've also tried to enjoy the aspects of the game that work for me while ignoring the scamming, ganking and general anti social behavior.
But the time has come for me to give up. The potential of enjoyment has finally dried up to the point where I simply don't log in any longer. All but one of my accounts have expired and been left that way. This last account was paid up until November, but I shan't be logging into it. Frankly I've not played on this account since last December.
I've tried in the past to make suggestions that would allow me to continue. I've tried to find ways to co-exist with the average Eve players. But all said and done, I've given up and will not be adding funds to the CCP coffers in the future. Instead I've switched over to another game and have made substantial investments (time and money) into that game over the last few months.
And you know what the odd things is to me? If CCP had done like so many other games have done and created a PvE server to allow members the choice of game style, I (and dozens of other ex players I've met) would continue enjoying the game far into the future. But they have refused to do so and the result is a gradually diminishing player community.
Who knows? Perhaps CCP will give it a try some day and perhaps I'll return if the option of PvE gameplay is enabled. But until then, I've given up.
Forced PvP is not the way I choose to play Eve so I will no longer try to play Eve.
Remove the pvp and the economy crashes, leaving the pve players with nothing but grinding missions and gathering worthless loot in their officer fitted ships. They would quit for the next 3 month wonder that caters to their needs before abandoning that too. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17842
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:27:32 -
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Dracvlad wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote: The loot scoping mechanic needs to be adjusted, the gankers avoid consequences by the use of a alt in a noob ship scooping to a DST and then the freighter pilot scooping into his hold from the DST.
You keep on saying this but have yet to explain how you squeeze a 1 million m3 package of freight containers through a 60k m3 hold. 62.5k hold at level 5. You are diverting attention from the basic mechanic issue. I'm pointing out that glaring hole in your argument. Simply because most people don't use them...
That's their choice. Tools are already there. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2137
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:30:09 -
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Glamor Boy Fergison wrote:I've honestly tried to put up with the anti-social game design and players who insist on anti-social behavior. I've put up with senseless gankings, been scammed a few times, sat docked while war decs ticked down, stayed logged off for weeks while war dec corps insisted on prolonging war decs even when they didn't get any kills and have done my best to fit in with the game due to my love for the game potential.
In the process I've paid subscriptions on three accounts until I have accumulated a total of nearly 100m of skill points on my three alts. I've also tried to enjoy the aspects of the game that work for me while ignoring the scamming, ganking and general anti social behavior.
But the time has come for me to give up. The potential of enjoyment has finally dried up to the point where I simply don't log in any longer. All but one of my accounts have expired and been left that way. This last account was paid up until November, but I shan't be logging into it. Frankly I've not played on this account since last December.
I've tried in the past to make suggestions that would allow me to continue. I've tried to find ways to co-exist with the average Eve players. But all said and done, I've given up and will not be adding funds to the CCP coffers in the future. Instead I've switched over to another game and have made substantial investments (time and money) into that game over the last few months.
And you know what the odd things is to me? If CCP had done like so many other games have done and created a PvE server to allow members the choice of game style, I (and dozens of other ex players I've met) would continue enjoying the game far into the future. But they have refused to do so and the result is a gradually diminishing player community.
Who knows? Perhaps CCP will give it a try some day and perhaps I'll return if the option of PvE gameplay is enabled. But until then, I've given up.
Forced PvP is not the way I choose to play Eve so I will no longer try to play Eve.
I noticed your issue on the prolonging of war decs, this is something that CCP needs to look into in terms of game balance. What as a matter of interest did you do in game, if you don't mind me asking.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14420
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:32:16 -
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Glamor Boy Fergison wrote:I've honestly tried to put up with the anti-social game design and players who insist on anti-social behavior. I've put up with senseless gankings, been scammed a few times, sat docked while war decs ticked down, stayed logged off for weeks while war dec corps insisted on prolonging war decs even when they didn't get any kills and have done my best to fit in with the game due to my love for the game potential.
In the process I've paid subscriptions on three accounts until I have accumulated a total of nearly 100m of skill points on my three alts. I've also tried to enjoy the aspects of the game that work for me while ignoring the scamming, ganking and general anti social behavior.
But the time has come for me to give up. The potential of enjoyment has finally dried up to the point where I simply don't log in any longer. All but one of my accounts have expired and been left that way. This last account was paid up until November, but I shan't be logging into it. Frankly I've not played on this account since last December.
I've tried in the past to make suggestions that would allow me to continue. I've tried to find ways to co-exist with the average Eve players. But all said and done, I've given up and will not be adding funds to the CCP coffers in the future. Instead I've switched over to another game and have made substantial investments (time and money) into that game over the last few months.
And you know what the odd things is to me? If CCP had done like so many other games have done and created a PvE server to allow members the choice of game style, I (and dozens of other ex players I've met) would continue enjoying the game far into the future. But they have refused to do so and the result is a gradually diminishing player community.
Who knows? Perhaps CCP will give it a try some day and perhaps I'll return if the option of PvE gameplay is enabled. But until then, I've given up.
Forced PvP is not the way I choose to play Eve so I will no longer try to play Eve.
Even though it will make no difference, I'm going to put out a disclaimer anyways: I'm not trying to hurt your feelings here, I'm simply posting what I see as the truth.
With that out of the way, here goes. You didn't belong in EVE to begin with. you very 1st paragraph demonstrates that: Glamor Boy Fergison wrote:I've honestly tried to put up with the anti-social game design and players who insist on anti-social behavior. I've put up with senseless gankings, been scammed a few times, sat docked while war decs ticked down, stayed logged off for weeks while war dec corps insisted on prolonging war decs even when they didn't get any kills and have done my best to fit in with the game due to my love for the game potential.
Problem #1, the word potential. like many who dislike EVE, you didn't play the game because you liked what it was, you played it because it had 'potential' to be something you might like in the future. I say this not as an insult but because it's the only word that fits, That's stupid.
Problem #2. Like ALL who don't get on well in EVE, you don't have a sense of personal responsibility. You've been ganked and scammed multiple times, and sat docked or even logged off because of War Decs? I've been playing since 2007 and I can count the ganks (of 2 shuttles and 1 pod) and scamms (paid 100 mil for a haulers) on one hand and have fingers left over. This is because I came into the game KNOWING people were out to get me so my gameplay revolves around not getting got, and I've succeeded. That you haven't means that you don't have the ability to learn how.
That is not the game's fault. That is yours. You should have never made the choice to play EVE in the 1st place, and I doubt you will ever accept this conclusion because it takes a responsible person to acknowledge their mistakes. You'd be better off in one of the many many Nanny State themepark offerings the games industry has to offer. Nothing wrong with that, but again it would have served you better it's you'd not wasted your time with EVE.
Good luck in your future endeavors.
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Lan Wang
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
3389
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:36:31 -
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Glamor Boy Fergison wrote:I've honestly tried to put up with the anti-social game design and players who insist on anti-social behavior.
Its kinda funny you mention this, anti-social behaviour, is this coming from a guy in an npc corp, runs missions or pve's solo and doesnt interact with anyone in the game? complaining that highly active and social corporations/alliances who create content for a lot of people are being anti-social
what anti-social behaviour in real life is, is the total opposite to what it is in eve
Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
393
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:40:42 -
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Dracvlad wrote:I noticed your issue on the prolonging of war decs, this is something that CCP needs to look into in terms of game balance. What as a matter of interest did you do in game, if you don't mind me asking. I never understood, why some of you feel wardecs are unbalanced.
If anything, the wardecs are unbalanced in favor of the defender. The aggressor pays all the fees and both sides can shoot each with no concord intervention. In addition to that, the defender can just leave corp whenever they please and dodge the wardec.
Yes, the wardec system needs a fix. But the fix should address the issue of dodging wardecs. Nothing related to increasing safety for the defender, since you can't really get more safe than in it's current iteration, when you instantly can just dodge the dec by leaving the corp.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14420
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:40:43 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Please explain how pointing out that it is entirely possible to safely PvE in Eve, without falling victim to the people that you disparage as "griefers", by taking responsibility for your own safety and using the game mechanics to your advantage, is toxic.
I thought I did Oh you were talking to that other guy lol.
Quote: Campaigning for increased safety for those that can't be arsed to put in any effort, when the game is already ridiculously safe for those that do, erodes one of the cornerstones of the game. That is both anathema to the nature of the game and makes the efforts of those that do put in the effort worthless.
You constantly appear to be advocating for changes that are the equivalent of a nanny state, which erodes personal choice and responsibility.
I would suggest that you educate the people you claim to want to nurture and protect from the depredations of others, the problem is that the majority of them don't want to listen or follow the advice that you may give, because it involves the expenditure of effort.
That won't happen, and for a funny reason, the same reason people in real life choose to try to 'fight for others' rather than help them learn how to fight for themselves.
If they teach others, if they empower others, if they tell others they are accountable for their own outcomes, they eventually put themselves out of work. Their 'advocacy' isn't about helping others, it's about making themselves feel good about being the type of person who helps others. I know I'm not alone at detecting the selfish undertones that fly off these people when they post.
Quote: It's almost like a relationship where one party tries to mould the other into something else, and then buggers off when the other party changes because the relationship is now boring.
I remember telling that bad joke on these very forums about a guy who realizes he's been a jerk to his wife after surviving a bad car accident, so he straightens up his act towards her, only to come home a week later to a Dear John letter that includes the words "But you just aren't the person I fell in love with"
As in life, so in EVE. The Irony of CCP making EVE more 'accessible' and 'user friendly' and 'easy to learn, hard to master' is a less popular game than it was when it just gave you a space ship, a bad "non-tutorial" and told you to go **** yourself. |
Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
393
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:42:52 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Glamor Boy Fergison wrote:I've honestly tried to put up with the anti-social game design and players who insist on anti-social behavior. Its kinda funny you mention this, anti-social behaviour, is this coming from a guy in an npc corp, runs missions or pve's solo and doesnt interact with anyone in the game? complaining that highly active and social corporations/alliances who create content for a lot of people are being anti-social what anti-social behaviour in real life is, is the total opposite to what it is in eve Heh... was about to point out the same.
So basically, we should put up a PvE server so people can become even more anti-social, cause anti-social game design is a problem? What?
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2137
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:49:50 -
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Maekchu wrote:Dracvlad wrote:I noticed your issue on the prolonging of war decs, this is something that CCP needs to look into in terms of game balance. What as a matter of interest did you do in game, if you don't mind me asking. I never understood, why some of you feel wardecs are unbalanced. If anything, the wardecs are unbalanced in favor of the defender. The aggressor pays all the fees and both sides can shoot each with no concord intervention. In addition to that, the defender can just leave corp whenever they please and dodge the wardec. Yes, the wardec system needs a fix. But the fix should address the issue of dodging wardecs. Nothing related to increasing safety for the defender, since you can't really get more safe than in it's current iteration, when you instantly can just dodge the dec by leaving the corp.
If you read anything I wrote on this you will find that I want the war dec fees reduced, the stupid cost to war dec the Goons gets right up my nose and was the main reason why we have blanket war decs from larger war dec entities. I want that the war dec follows a character if he joins another player corp within the 7 days of leaving. On the other side I want something to balance off against perpetual war decs. I also want a OS that will give watch list functionality in a constellation which is vulnerable when active.
Can I sigh now....?
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17370
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:54:03 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Can I sigh now....? no because
Quote: the stupid cost to war dec the Goons gets right up my nose and was the main reason why we have blanket war decs from larger war dec entities. you just pulled that out of your arse.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2137
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:55:20 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dracvlad wrote:baltec1 wrote:
You keep on saying this but have yet to explain how you squeeze a 1 million m3 package of freight containers through a 60k m3 hold.
62.5k hold at level 5. You are diverting attention from the basic mechanic issue. I'm pointing out that glaring hole in your argument. Simply because most people don't use them... That's their choice. Tools are already there.
There are certain reasons around the algorithm that decides what drops, meaning that it is often better for the ganker in terms of expensive items dropping if you use cans.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2137
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:57:34 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Can I sigh now....? no because Quote: the stupid cost to war dec the Goons gets right up my nose and was the main reason why we have blanket war decs from larger war dec entities. you just pulled that out of your arse.
Bit smelly then, well a number of war dec players said that, because it was the only way they could afford these very large war dec fees. It also seems that some war dec entities are created around some very rich backers. I guess that came out of my arse too...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
393
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Posted - 2016.08.12 15:58:12 -
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Dracvlad wrote:If you read anything I wrote on this you will find that I want the war dec fees reduced, the stupid cost to war dec the Goons gets right up my nose and was the main reason why we have blanket war decs from larger war dec entities. I want that the war dec follows a character if he joins another player corp within the 7 days of leaving. On the other side I want something to balance off against perpetual war decs. I also want a OS that will give watch list functionality in a constellation which is vulnerable when active. Can I sigh now....? Sorry for not stalking you around, having read all your posts, having knowledge of your political views and perverse tendencies.
Is it normal in your view, for other people to know exactly all of the details surrounding an internet persona? If you've posted it in this thread, then I can just say that I haven't read the whole thread through thoroughly, nor would I remember your specific view in a topic. While I know you do lurk around these forums a lot, I honestly don't find you interesting enough a character that I would note down in detail all your views and notions on game balance.
Yes, you can sigh now, if it somehow makes you feel better.
I just responded to part of your post. Cause it reminded me of the thousand complaints I have heard about wardec balance and how unfair it is to the defender. While in reality, it is quite the opposite.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26593
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Posted - 2016.08.12 16:01:12 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:As in life, so in EVE. The Irony of CCP making EVE more 'accessible' and 'user friendly' and 'easy to learn, hard to master' is a less popular game than it was when it just gave you a space ship, a bad "non-tutorial" and told you to go **** yourself. Ahh the good old days, eloquently summed up as:
CCP Soundwave wrote:Welcome to Eve Online. HereGÇÖs your RubikGÇÖs Cube. Go frak* yourself.
*keeping it clean
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8562
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Posted - 2016.08.12 16:08:07 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
There are certain reasons around the algorithm that decides what drops, meaning that it is often better for the ganker in terms of expensive items dropping if you use cans.
[Citation needed]
Also still wondering how 1M cargo fits into a single DST, containers or no.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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