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Gibbeous Moon
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
18
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Posted - 2016.07.22 22:24:40 -
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It's been a while since I last took a boat out into New Eden and the meatware skills are shot to hell.
So, I thought that it would be a good idea to practise again my scanning skills and what better way there is to do that but to torment Mission Runners by being a Ninja Salvager.
The last time I tried this was years ago and perhaps the highlight was being called "An Elk!" by someone cheesed off with my antics. Anyway, digression aside, I am starting to wonder if hi-sec Ninja Salvaging is done these days.
Is it still done and does anyone have have a half-way modern and up to date decent T1 frigate fit to ease me back into New Eden?
Diolch yn fawr Gibbeous
p.s. No, the reason for my absence from the game wasn't because I was staying somewhere secure courtesy of Her Majesty's Pleasure but the fact that the wife and I decided to beetle off for a year in a motorhome and see what we could see. |
Benson en Efnyssen
Run and Gun Mercenary Corps FETID
42
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Posted - 2016.07.23 15:49:16 -
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Blodyn tatws!
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12621
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Posted - 2016.07.23 16:38:32 -
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MTU destroying is the new ninja salvaging
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Gibbeous Moon
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
18
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Posted - 2016.07.23 20:48:56 -
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Bumblefck wrote:MTU destroying is the new ninja salvaging
What's the downside to MTU destroying? Does Concord come a-knocking or does it make one just a legit target for everyone? |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12633
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Posted - 2016.07.25 19:44:09 -
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Gibbeous Moon wrote:Bumblefck wrote:MTU destroying is the new ninja salvaging What's the downside to MTU destroying? Does Concord come a-knocking or does it make one just a legit target for everyone?
Just suspect status, that's all!
Today, I notched up my 100th MTU kill - not much compared to those who've been at it for a lot longer than I, but immensely satisfying nonetheless! The tears are an added bonus, although I have to admit that lately most of my 'clients' have been Russian and whilst their invective was no doubt impressive, it was wasted on me.
Here are a couple of fits you could try - try with a T3D first and then move onto the Tengu as you gain confidence. Adjust to taste; for my needs, I required an all-in-one scanning package with decent DPS and a good-ish tank to deflect incoming fire from both rats and angry locals:
[Jackdaw, Seagull] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Missile Guidance Computer II Missile Guidance Computer II Warp Scrambler II Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender Small Ancillary Shield Booster
Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Capacitor Control Circuit II
Mjolnir Rage Rocket x5000 Navy Cap Booster 25 x200 Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x16 Scourge Rage Rocket x2875 Nova Rage Rocket x5000 Inferno Rage Rocket x4500
320 DPS, 1500m/s cold. Not a bad place to start, and cheap if you mess up.
[Tengu, Ahoy Hoy] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Gistum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive Thukker Large Cap Battery Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile x3000 Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x18 Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile x1264
This is what I'm using now (replace the Fuel Catalyst with the Nanofibres subsystem, left over from an old build). 640 DPS with my skills, 1190m/s cold. Cap stable! 965hp every 3 secs - more than enough to tank whatever the room throws at you.
If you need any pointers mail me - happy to help :)
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Gibbeous Moon
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
18
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Posted - 2016.07.26 20:27:06 -
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Thanks ever so much for the replies and for the fits.
I think that when I have time (Real Life is in the way) then I will have a go with these. In the meantime I off practising scanning in a Heron.
Thanks again, muchly appreciated. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12641
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Posted - 2016.07.26 20:39:07 -
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You're more than welcome. Happy hunting!
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1206
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Posted - 2016.07.27 08:27:21 -
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no, salvage prices crashed long time ago, so I dont think its still a viable profession.
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Gibbeous Moon
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
19
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Posted - 2016.07.27 08:39:29 -
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Thanks, but it may be something that someone who will get out into New Eden irregularly can do that's a form of interaction with others without needing a Corp.
It's more for that than ISK, to be honest. And, anyway, after all these years I have never had any ISK anyway. |
Astra Starshine
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2016.07.29 18:04:03 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Gibbeous Moon wrote:Bumblefck wrote:MTU destroying is the new ninja salvaging What's the downside to MTU destroying? Does Concord come a-knocking or does it make one just a legit target for everyone? Just suspect status, that's all! Today, I notched up my 100th MTU kill - not much compared to those who've been at it for a lot longer than I, but immensely satisfying nonetheless! The tears are an added bonus, although I have to admit that lately most of my 'clients' have been Russian and whilst their invective was no doubt impressive, it was wasted on me. Here are a couple of fits you could try - try with a T3D first and then move onto the Tengu as you gain confidence. Adjust to taste; for my needs, I required an all-in-one scanning package with decent DPS and a good-ish tank to deflect incoming fire from both rats and angry locals: [Jackdaw, Seagull] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Missile Guidance Computer II Missile Guidance Computer II Warp Scrambler II Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender Small Ancillary Shield Booster Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Capacitor Control Circuit II Mjolnir Rage Rocket x5000 Navy Cap Booster 25 x200 Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x16 Scourge Rage Rocket x2875 Nova Rage Rocket x5000 Inferno Rage Rocket x4500 320 DPS, 1500m/s cold. Not a bad place to start, and cheap if you mess up. If you need any pointers mail me - happy to help :)
This Jackdaw sounds like a lot of fun. And it's cheap for a new person to skill up to! You just land into a mission and shoot their MTU?
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12665
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Posted - 2016.07.29 18:11:40 -
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Yeah the cheapness is a v. v. good thing too, particularly if you're new to suspect status and all that!
Pretty much you do exactly what you said! I'd create a bunch of safe spots around the system first though, and when you land in the mission pocket, target the MTU and align to a SS at about 50% velocity...that way, if it's a trap, you can easily skidoo :)
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Astra Starshine
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2016.07.29 18:37:56 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Yeah the cheapness is a v. v. good thing too, particularly if you're new to suspect status and all that!
Pretty much you do exactly what you said! I'd create a bunch of safe spots around the system first though, and when you land in the mission pocket, target the MTU and align to a SS at about 50% velocity...that way, if it's a trap, you can easily skidoo :)
where are good SS positions? Near roid fields or planets?
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12665
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Posted - 2016.07.29 18:52:30 -
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Those are pretty bad (though easy to create), as anything in a straight line from one celestial to another can be pinpointed quite quickly...instead:
1. Fly from one body to another, dropping a BM (1) on the way 2. Return to the first body, and then fly to another (preferably at a 45 degree-plus angle), and drop another BM (2) 3. Fly to (1). Arrive. Align and fly to (2), dropping a third BM (3). 4. This will be your safe spot. 5. Rinse and repeat for several other spots.
To be fair, this won't really stop a dedicated and experienced scanner with an expanded probe launcher, though if you do create several SSs you can bounce around them waiting for the weapons timer to run out before you dock up.
HTH!
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Gibbeous Moon
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
20
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Posted - 2016.07.31 18:43:58 -
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Bumblefck, a question about the Cap Boosters that you have loaded. Where in the Raven fit is the actual Booster?
Or have I missed something blindingly obvious (yet again)?
- Gibbeous |
aldhura
The Locker Room
85
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Posted - 2016.07.31 19:53:22 -
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Gibbeous Moon wrote:Bumblefck, a question about the Cap Boosters that you have loaded. Where in the Raven fit is the actual Booster?
Or have I missed something blindingly obvious (yet again)?
- Gibbeous
They go in the Small Ancillary Shield Booster. They are new'sh boosters. They boost more than a standard booster, but when the cap boosters run out they not great and chew cap. The take a long time to relaod. There is an armor version which uses nanite past |
Gibbeous Moon
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
20
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Posted - 2016.07.31 20:29:21 -
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So one shoves Cap Booster charges into a Shield Booster device?
Goodness, this game is hard enough as it is...
But thanks for the reply. Another reason why I was useless at this game: I know nowt.
- Gibbeous |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17159
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Posted - 2016.07.31 21:37:54 -
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Gibbeous Moon wrote:So one shoves Cap Booster charges into a Shield Booster device?
Goodness, this game is hard enough as it is...
But thanks for the reply. Another reason why I was useless at this game: I know nowt.
- Gibbeous Yup, keep more in your cargo hold for it to reload once you have used the ones in the module. If you run out it will still work but put a massive strain on your capacitor. I lost a tengu the other week because i had forgotten to do this after murdering a miner and and then ran smack into an angry navy scorpion one of his corpmates was flying, Verry uncomertable feeling when your cap disapears and ye are both in deep hull...
Better the Devil you know.
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Gibbeous Moon
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
20
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Posted - 2016.07.31 22:01:09 -
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I've been deep into hull lots of times...
...thankfully, that particular stressful position is only short lived. Like most of my crew. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12703
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Posted - 2016.08.01 11:03:22 -
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Make sure you always use Navy Cap boosters too, as they are of a smaller physical size compared to the normal versions, and consequently you can fit more of them in the ancillary booster :)
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Keno Kane
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.09.09 00:52:41 -
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Loot Pinata
This MTU paid for my Confessor today. Thank you carebears! |
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Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
307
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Posted - 2016.09.09 17:25:57 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Just suspect status, that's all!
Today, I notched up my 100th MTU kill - not much compared to those who've been at it for a lot longer than I, but immensely satisfying nonetheless! The tears are an added bonus, although I have to admit that lately most of my 'clients' have been Russian and whilst their invective was no doubt impressive, it was wasted on me.
Here are a couple of fits you could try - try with a T3D first and then move onto the Tengu as you gain confidence. Adjust to taste; for my needs, I required an all-in-one scanning package with decent DPS and a good-ish tank to deflect incoming fire from both rats and angry locals:
[Jackdaw, Seagull] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Missile Guidance Computer II Missile Guidance Computer II Warp Scrambler II Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender Small Ancillary Shield Booster
Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Small Capacitor Control Circuit II
Mjolnir Rage Rocket x5000 Navy Cap Booster 25 x200 Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x16 Scourge Rage Rocket x2875 Nova Rage Rocket x5000 Inferno Rage Rocket x4500
320 DPS, 1500m/s cold. Not a bad place to start, and cheap if you mess up.
[Tengu, Ahoy Hoy] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Gistum C-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive Thukker Large Cap Battery Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile x3000 Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x18 Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile x1264
This is what I'm using now (replace the Fuel Catalyst with the Nanofibres subsystem, left over from an old build). 640 DPS with my skills, 1190m/s cold. Cap stable! 965hp every 3 secs - more than enough to tank whatever the room (or the odd irate bear) throws at you.
If you need any pointers mail me - happy to help :)
I'd recommend a confessor over a jackdaw personally. You can fit an expanded probe launcher and a cloak. The cloak is very very handy when scanning/waiting out timers.
And yes it can be very lucrative |
Keno Kane
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2016.09.09 21:17:33 -
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Isaac Armer wrote:I'd recommend a confessor over a jackdaw personally. You can fit an expanded probe launcher and a cloak. The cloak is very very handy when scanning/waiting out timers. And yes it can be very lucrative
+1 to confessor. it's a lot of fun too. I dropped into someone's mission last night. They were busy with NPC's so I switched to Propulsion mode and raced to the MTU. Jackpot! Lots of goodies inside for the taking. Loot all, zip out or stay and see what happens.
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Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1806
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Posted - 2016.09.10 15:01:02 -
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Dafuq, are people dying in their missions and then just going back without looting their valuables XD? |
Keno Kane
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2016.09.11 13:59:30 -
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It's very rude on Concord to get involved. I was just minding my own business and blew up another MTU. No harm done. Very little loot this time. So I decided to clear the crime scene and blow up the wreckage. Out of nowhere appears a Concord Police Captain! He relieved me of my ship, but didn't get my pod. So it's ok to blow one up, but leave the wreckage alone? |
Zappity
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
3016
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Posted - 2016.09.21 02:49:24 -
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What better? Why, ninja salvaging AND ninja looting!
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
18185
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Posted - 2016.09.21 02:58:34 -
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wait ... so killing the mtu is the point here?
thats like fishing because you like tiny hooks.
Click me
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Elyham
Gordon Gekko Trading Academy Peaceful Industrialists
46
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Posted - 2016.09.21 20:40:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:wait ... so killing the mtu is the point here?
thats like fishing because you like tiny hooks.
For me the point is all the accolades and profession of love seen in local chat while I am clearing illegally anchored structures.
People you have got to stop littering in space!
Elyham Director, Mining Buddy Program |
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