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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.07.23 21:03:19 -
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Terra Volta wrote:...because it offers players more schedule flexibility and choices. That's what this forum is for.
Wherever did you get that notion? Enquiring minds want to know
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
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Posted - 2016.07.23 21:27:08 -
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Terra Volta wrote:You think it's Trammel, I think it's good for the game because it offers players more schedule flexibility and choices. Again... technically your idea offers a choice.
Functionally your idea does not offer a choice.
Instanced PvP impinges on freeform PvP because the former is, for all intents and purposes, "safer." This leads to less people doing less freeform PvP because... well... why would you do something "less safe?"
It is bad for the game overall and will simply lead to long term stagnation.
Now you are right in that games evolve with time. EVE has been evolving since its inception. However you are asking for something that goes in a direction that directly conflicts with two of the base ethos of EVE. Those being;
- Everyone and anyone is allowed to affect you and your gameplay for better or worse. - It is YOUR job to protect yourself and and your style of gameplay.
"Instancing" goes against all of those.
How did you Veterans start?
The Mustache and Beard Thread
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.07.23 21:55:24 -
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At the OP.
This subject is nothing new, along with 99% of the other poorly thought out trash that gets posted in here, it's merely a rehash of the same old "it works in other games so it'll work in Eve" crap, that ignores the fact the Eve is not like most other games.
Despite being discussed to death multiple times in the last 13 years, not one person has managed to produce a compelling enough case for CCP to break their main income source by following up on it, or any of the other game-breaking stupidity that people think is a good idea.
I am Ralph's junk DNA.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2016.07.23 22:19:06 -
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I am not sure why every OP in this subforum thinks his idiotic idea is somehow more attractive if he mentions that EVE loses subscribers and then fails to provide evidence that this is actually true and that his idea will change something.
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2016.07.23 22:31:59 -
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Gonna add my no to this.
Creating instances pretty much kills eve (or transforms it into a different game if you must). The more ccp imitates other mmo's the more they lose subscribers. Fluffers is pretty bang on when he says the game would be better off going backs to its roots. The reason people played eve was because they were looking for something different.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"
Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
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Kenji Noguchi
We are not bad. Just unlucky DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2016.07.24 00:05:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Terra Volta wrote:People have a choice (they can participate in the current open-universe PvP and the Instanced PvP). They can do both. It's not like we are removing the current PvP, and replacing it with Instanced PvP. You actually do. People are lazy and seek convenience over everything else. Having access to easy, quick and most of all secure PVP areas will draw loads of players out of the open world into these PVP rooms, practically removing every available target from people who would still like to do open world PVP -- not sov warfare, but actual roams, camps, hunts --, which forces more of them into the PVP rooms as well, removing even more targets from the open world. Et viola, EVE PVP removed from the open world.
Amazing. Again the "People would like it too much" argument used AGAINST a feature. Way to go! |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
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Posted - 2016.07.24 08:10:38 -
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Kenji Noguchi wrote:Amazing. Again the "People would like it too much" argument used AGAINST a feature. Way to go! People would also "like it" if CCP gave everyone a dozen Titans and the skills to fly them for Christmas next year. That does not mean that such an action would be good for the game.
Sorry OP, arranged PvP may seem like a good idea, but would completely asphyxiate the intended sandbox game play that is at the core of this game. Go arrange your own PvP in the universe if you'd like (or on Sisi), or participate in one of the existing arranged tournaments if that is what you are looking for, but there is zero chance of this ever being implemented under Seagull's tenure and unless there is a complete 180-¦ in the direction of development of the game.
Why Do They Gank?
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bunzing heet
Sex and Coke Party
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Posted - 2016.07.24 08:54:58 -
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I'm gonna keep this short because this arena stuff is already been discussed a couple of times PvP instance aka arenas = dead eve So no
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