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Shin Gor
Absolute Guardians
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Posted - 2007.03.10 09:30:00 -
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Bandwagon will last just as long as it takes to kill BoB, since BoB is what is holding us together. Afterwards all the parties involved will go separate ways or stay allies, it is for each and every alliance to decide what will be their next move. Most importantly though it will be what we want to do, what is more fun or just generally better for us or not but surely not because it is what BoB are telling us to do.
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Lord Guffy
Minmatar Lame Duck Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.10 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Bart The thing that impresses me is how the bob alts use the same style of writing and same subtle suggestions. They must actually have a division of propaganda and a director of propaganda where they strategize this stuff. I wonder if they even have their chief of propaganda review their posts before they are sent to assure their quality.
Problem is that after you've seen enough of these posts you can spot a bob alt after about the 2nd or 3rd sentence.
Bob did a good job with their propaganda but finally they are in trouble. People recognize their tricks, annoyed at being fooled, annoyed with their methods, annoyed with their attitudes and have decided that Bob will be no more.
Now desparate to change public opinion they have declared "Nobody who is not in the propaganda division is allowed to post on eve-o forums!" Too little too late.
I think the best part of Bob falling will be the absence of their forum warfare.
-Bart
Thanks for stopping by and trying to ruin another thread. I must say, your post amused me - you must be INCREDIBLY paranoid to get to this level of suspicion. You have remembered that this is a game, yes? Take a few hours away from your PC, take a few deep breaths, go to see a few friends, then come back and try to ENJOY this game rather than spoiling it.
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Weyr Raykan
Caldari Dark Centuri Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.10 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ceratin
Point is that it doesnt really matter, Everyone expects this war to go on for a very very long time so thinking about this atm really is kinda pointless
Very well said.
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Chirinako
Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.10 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Chirinako on 10/03/2007 13:38:57
Originally by: Hubris this is my own opinion and not that of snigg or pandemic legion.
Well firstly i think the term bandwagoneers is utterly false. If it was, all of eve would be on this "bandwagon" and that hasn't happened. True there are a lot of former opponents that are blue to each other. But it is more of a common goal that we all share. I personally haven't seen this much blue for years and years. LV space became a blue gob of non targets. That was very odd, we had no one to play with. We resolved that by moving right into bob space. its fun there
Your topic is a good question tho.
Its something that i bet many of the coalition have thought about. But i doubt many have put much thought directly into it. Most seem to be just having a lot of fun right now.
In the next few months/weeks/days it takes to pick apart bob and pets will undoubtably be the most fun many will have in eve to date. Once that fun is over there will prob be a lot of meetings and such. A lot of grand standing and flame fests. Then everything will slow and groups will go back to what they did before.
I do think a lot of the relationships forged in this epic war will hold for a log time. Some will for sure fall apart for this reason or that. Its human nature and has been that way all through history.
Only time will tell.
Well and truely signed.
As an add-on to that post, I believe that if BOB and Allies LOSE, it will not be the end of the war as such. The coalition forces will suffer if they start breaking at the seams, because I doubt BOB would just go and mine Veldspar in Jita I reckon Bob would just start launching assaults into their old space and causing hell for the coalition, and if that coalition started breaking up, we would probably see large chunks of BOB's old space falling back under BOB control because of the split in the coalition.
Nobody knows for sure how this war will turn out but it will be darned interesting, win or lose.
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Ewa Quillam
Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.03.10 14:22:00 -
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To the OP, you don't want to be flamed/smacked, but you are doing it yourself by using the fanboi/bandwagon terms and also undoubtfully putting yourself on BoB's side. Enough said.
Look for whatever answers you are searching for in Uuve's post. It's quite accurate, I'd say.
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DeckardIRL
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.10 14:39:00 -
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BoB killed ASCN very quickly. Before the dust had settled on that conflict the "Co-alition" to "stop teh BoB" formed even quicker. If ASCN could be overrun so quickly then "we are all under teh BoB threat". BoB was looking for pew pew and now its coming thick and fast. The sole aim of BoB eradication is very short sighted. When you look at the rebirth of Red Alliance from a single system (albeit farming the very nice plex in that system) do you really think that you could eradicate "teh BoB"?
Question? What do the gooners want from this war?
As this war progresses will the Gooners always want to be the meatshields? As you skill up, you want to kill more and die less or maybe Gooners really are all just lemmings? When the meatshield goes it will be a different conflict, unless they train up alts and all new recruits are the frontline fodder...
I think that the war in the North will be over sooner than later and that Allied forces will be victorious. So, I say its time now for D2, IRON and MM to sue for peace and look at the real threat that are the Reds. Its time for Realpolitk.
AAA took quite a while to decide to fight... they already know of the Red threat, there is no doubt that if there is a serious BoB setback and they withdraw, the south will implode quicker than a D2 Titan...
This war will end when the Reds have control over the plexes that they want (in the South anyway)... but will the people who fought for the "cause" be happy that the Reds get all the jewels? I doubt it... it all depends on how greedy the Reds are and how powerful they are at the time... BoB or Red Alliance- take your pick... ?
Deck _____________________________________________ Xelas Fleet Vice Admiral
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Ewa Quillam
Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.03.10 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: DeckardIRL
This war will end when the Reds have control over the plexes that they want (in the South anyway)... but will the people who fought for the "cause" be happy that the Reds get all the jewels? I doubt it... it all depends on how greedy the Reds are and how powerful they are at the time... BoB or Red Alliance- take your pick... ? Deck
What ever it takes to make BoB control less 0.0 space and grow even more uncontrolable.
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Drakma
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.10 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: DeckardIRL BoB killed ASCN very quickly. Before the dust had settled on that conflict the "Co-alition" to "stop teh BoB" formed even quicker. If ASCN could be overrun so quickly then "we are all under teh BoB threat". BoB was looking for pew pew and now its coming thick and fast. The sole aim of BoB eradication is very short sighted. When you look at the rebirth of Red Alliance from a single system (albeit farming the very nice plex in that system) do you really think that you could eradicate "teh BoB"?
Question? What do the gooners want from this war?
As this war progresses will the Gooners always want to be the meatshields? As you skill up, you want to kill more and die less or maybe Gooners really are all just lemmings? When the meatshield goes it will be a different conflict, unless they train up alts and all new recruits are the frontline fodder...
I think that the war in the North will be over sooner than later and that Allied forces will be victorious. So, I say its time now for D2, IRON and MM to sue for peace and look at the real threat that are the Reds. Its time for Realpolitk.
AAA took quite a while to decide to fight... they already know of the Red threat, there is no doubt that if there is a serious BoB setback and they withdraw, the south will implode quicker than a D2 Titan...
This war will end when the Reds have control over the plexes that they want (in the South anyway)... but will the people who fought for the "cause" be happy that the Reds get all the jewels? I doubt it... it all depends on how greedy the Reds are and how powerful they are at the time... BoB or Red Alliance- take your pick... ?
Deck
Isn't the fact this is a game motive enough? Why does everybody seem to need some grandios motive for everybody else's actions?
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.10 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Shadoo on 10/03/2007 18:37:58
Originally by: DeckardIRL
<snip> When you look at the rebirth of Red Alliance from a single system (albeit farming the very nice plex in that system) do you really think that you could eradicate "teh BoB"? <snip>
There is no complex in C-J6. You post a lot of factual sounding comments on these various war threads, but seem to get even basic facts wrong. Strange.
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Izzy Pol
Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek
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Posted - 2007.03.10 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ty'derian Lord Guffy why do you dont POST witg your BOB Main Char ??
Why dont you just address the bloody topic instead of hammering keys like a brainless mullet?
It could be an interesting topic.
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Frygok
Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.10 19:04:00 -
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While the OP is slightly biased with the terms he label the Coalition with, it's an interesting discsussion.
One interesting aspect that I don't feel have been covered yet, is the fact that the BOB allies/meat shields(in the sense that they are between the Coalition forces and BOB) can give encouragement to the Coalition forces. If the Coalition can defeat those alliances one by one, the resolve will stregthen by the successfull operations, and in that way the BOB tactics of having allies fighting for them can backfire.
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Breyghun
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.03.10 19:31:00 -
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Alliances and relationships didn't hold together when there were 10k on at a time and now there are 30k on... sheesh there are new Aliances springing up all the time!
Some key players who have reputation, wealth, a number of accounts and the oportunity to play the game longer than most due to their rl lifestyle will continue to shape Corporations and relationships between them. Sir Molle, Cyvok, Berendt to name a few.
We kinda need BoB, or the Goons and the game would be boring without them threatening to take over the game world. I am sure that the only reason people from CCP hang out in the Corps of BoB and LV et al is because they were all playing together when the player base was 5k! These relationships between old players will endure.
Everything else is transient.
Corps grow strong, they form or join Alliances which give them access to 0.0 and greater wealth, then they get bored of maintaining that space and "go back to their roots". Rinse, repeat.
RA and Goons will end up fighting each other, as will the north but this is the first time I can remember a single entity attracting so much wrath from the player base. BoB are already victorious in surviving this long, in spite of the allegations they face ~ it's remarkable.
To remain unbeaten they have to wait out the storm and for things to get back to normal, so that they can get back to a situation they could control before, which is the norm; everyone cutting everyone elses throats!
And yes Lord Guffy ... All change! schlepp, schlock, schmaltz, scmooze, ******* are all the words you need in life. |
Faith Black
Minmatar Rolls Roids
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Posted - 2007.03.10 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shadoo Edited by: Shadoo on 10/03/2007 18:37:58
Originally by: DeckardIRL
<snip> When you look at the rebirth of Red Alliance from a single system (albeit farming the very nice plex in that system) do you really think that you could eradicate "teh BoB"? <snip>
There is no complex in C-J6. You post a lot of factual sounding comments on these various war threads, but seem to get even basic facts wrong. Strange.
Actually they were back in Curse and Empire without a system, nevertheless they kept farming a lot of the complexes ( mainly to get isk for pos and pos fuel I guess and to replace the capitals that they lost before ) ------ No.1 reason to post with an alt: Avoiding that your main looks too silly. |
Aphotic Raven
Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.11 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: DeckardIRL BoB killed ASCN very quickly. Before the dust had settled on that conflict the "Co-alition" to "stop teh BoB" formed even quicker. If ASCN could be overrun so quickly then "we are all under teh BoB threat". BoB was looking for pew pew and now its coming thick and fast. The sole aim of BoB eradication is very short sighted. When you look at the rebirth of Red Alliance from a single system (albeit farming the very nice plex in that system) do you really think that you could eradicate "teh BoB"?
Question? What do the gooners want from this war?
As this war progresses will the Gooners always want to be the meatshields? As you skill up, you want to kill more and die less or maybe Gooners really are all just lemmings? When the meatshield goes it will be a different conflict, unless they train up alts and all new recruits are the frontline fodder...
I think that the war in the North will be over sooner than later and that Allied forces will be victorious. So, I say its time now for D2, IRON and MM to sue for peace and look at the real threat that are the Reds. Its time for Realpolitk.
AAA took quite a while to decide to fight... they already know of the Red threat, there is no doubt that if there is a serious BoB setback and they withdraw, the south will implode quicker than a D2 Titan...
This war will end when the Reds have control over the plexes that they want (in the South anyway)... but will the people who fought for the "cause" be happy that the Reds get all the jewels? I doubt it... it all depends on how greedy the Reds are and how powerful they are at the time... BoB or Red Alliance- take your pick... ?
Deck
And your alliance would get to keep breathing in the bob tinged air and carebearing it up... its the perfect plan, i'll send some evemails to the leadership today...
I dont think i need to point out whats wrong with you calling others meatshields.
Originally by: Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: DeckardIRL BoB killed ASCN very quickly. Before the dust had settled on that conflict the "Co-alition" to "stop teh BoB" formed even quicker. If ASCN could be overrun so quickly then "we are all under teh BoB threat". BoB was looking for pew pew and now its coming thick and fast. The sole aim of BoB eradication is very short sighted. When you look at the rebirth of Red Alliance from a single system (albeit farming the very nice plex in that system) do you really think that you could eradicate "teh BoB"?
Question? What do the gooners want from this war?
As this war progresses will the Gooners always want to be the meatshields? As you skill up, you want to kill more and die less or maybe Gooners really are all just lemmings? When the meatshield goes it will be a different conflict, unless they train up alts and all new recruits are the frontline fodder...
I think that the war in the North will be over sooner than later and that Allied forces will be victorious. So, I say its time now for D2, IRON and MM to sue for peace and look at the real threat that are the Reds. Its time for Realpolitk.
AAA took quite a while to decide to fight... they already know of the Red threat, there is no doubt that if there is a serious BoB setback and they withdraw, the south will implode quicker than a D2 Titan...
This war will end when the Reds have control over the plexes that they want (in the South anyway)... but will the people who fought for the "cause" be happy that the Reds get all the jewels? I doubt it... it all depends on how greedy the Reds are and how powerful they are at the time... BoB or Red Alliance- take your pick... ?
Deck
I see a lot of bob this and bob that in your statement but I dont see BoB any where by your name Please do not edit moderator sig comments. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) |
FGxHalsey
Freedom Guard Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Guffy
Again, please no flaming. Yes my perspective is slightly anti Ragoon -
Slightly anti-Ragoon? Didn't I see you flying around delve with BoB today or was that your almost identically named alt?
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Charrette
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.11 07:53:00 -
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I feel for the OP. Trying to have an intellectual conversation on these forums is like trying to herd cats. I also want to mention that Im definitely not an alt, nor does my alliance take "a side." I enjoy shooting at pretty much everyone whom my CEO tells me to. (usually a weak and unsuspecting target.)
That being said, I think it is useful to point out that "bandwaggoning" is not a perjorative. It is, in fact, an objective term frequently used in the study of international relations to describe the very behavior currently exhibited by the Coalition. As defined, bandwaggoning is the grouping together of lesser entities to counter-balance (or destroy) another more powerful, or even hegemonic, state. This is most often used in analysis from a neo-realist or classical realist perspective. (which is precisely the kind of environment promoted in Eve.)
Once the common objective of the "bandwaggoners" is fulfilled (if in fact, it can be, since the total defeat of any power with subtantial strength is never a foregone conclusion) the grouping generally dissolves and returns to the ante bellum status quo (unless of course the balance of power is altered significantly by the effort. e.g. post WWII USSR) As the saying goes, there are no permanent allies, only permanent interests, an aphorism that I believe sums up Eve rather nicely. The anti-BoB coalition will by definition splinter.
Please forgive the wall of text. As for predictions, based solely on the rumor and hearsay flying about in the game, I believe the Coalition will bleed themselves white in their effort to destroy BoB, leaving their space open to incursion from other groups hitherto uninvolved. This means this universal war will go on and on.-- good news for guys like me.
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japalura
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Posted - 2007.03.11 09:07:00 -
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Well, I have thought about this awhile too. And the way I see it, if BOB wins, you will see the alliances that help them regain what they lost (like LV) and probably gain even more territory or what ever. but if the coalition wins then the possible out comes would be more interesting because if bob is beat then you will see a lack of a world power (no hegomonic state) and then a bunch of contending powers who will want to be the new world power. So maybe the coalition does stay together, then you will just see the exact same thing happen to them that happened to bob. everyone will create alliances to balance against the new world power. or the coalition will break apart and fight each other. either way you will see someone trying to be the new super power, or atleast regional power, and then people countering against it.
Anyways, thats my more realist viewpoint on things. its pretty much what most of the people in here have already said anyways, i just looked up more of a political science spin on it. (look up power transition theory) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_transition_theory
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.11 11:07:00 -
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Simple, the coalition crushes BoB and Pets, then plays the game, be that pew pewing each other or not, it's irrelevant, all the while they maintain good relations, and the second a former bobbit tries to make something new they all drop what they are doing and crush said former Bobbits, time and time again till they do what they told so many others to do, leave. Simple
Quote: Whats becoming so obvious these days, is, in this game it's not what you know, it's who you know, how sad
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Orbital Drift
Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 17:53:00 -
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I would suggest -- with a great amount of certainty -- that the coalition is already showing strain and *****ing. Mostly due to arrogance and false hubris and old animosities.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.03.11 18:58:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Victor Vision on 11/03/2007 19:04:59
Originally by: Lord Guffy Edited by: Lord Guffy on 09/03/2007 21:09:37...talk...
The reasons for the formation of the Coalition are manifold.
They include but are not limited to:
- The balance of power In the view of many BoB had gotten too powerfull and was controlling too much territory. To this date BoB has lost little territory, however BoB is under constant pressure from the Coalition.
- The destruction of ASCN When BoB destroyed its former ally ASCN and captured their territory, many felt BoB had reached a critical mass. Talk about an EVE future where BOB may become the single most powerfull entity was discussed on the forums. Even entities sympathetic to BoB will probably agree that it is not for the benefit of EVE if that were to happen.
- The dev scandal It goes without saying that another factor in forming of the Coalition was and is said scandal.
- No single targets When some talk about a "bandwagon" it is often forgotten that BoB has always had a very vivid bandwagon policy themselves. The "allied forces of BoB" include multiple alliances, just like the Coalition is made up of multiple alliances. It had been BoB policy to try to single out targets and take them down. After winning against the target, juicy parts of the beaten adversary where then incooperated into the BoB bandwagon. Examples for this include Fix, parts of ASCN, etc.
Members of the Coalition realized that fighting alone against BoB and its bandwagon would not be a good idea. However by forming a Coalition of multiple entities chances were vastly increased to be able to constrain BoB and maybe even beat them.
In general my educated guess is that if major parts of the Coalition manage to stay together for some more time, we will continue to see thrilling fights in EVE War I, and the demise of BoB from the territorial map is, in the very least, a possible outcome of the war. I personally believe the only way BoB can win this war is by the Coalition disbanding, I do not think the allied forces of BoB can withstand the combined attack of the Northern and Southern Coalition for more than a few months.
Summing it up I think it is relatively safe to say that the outcome of this war lies in the hands of the Coalition.
If the main players in the Coalition manage to stay together, they have a high chance of winning. If however the Coalition falls apart, BoB might gain the upper hand.
EVE War I - Quick Overview
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Caillech
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:10:00 -
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I can't really tell from all of the threads, but has Bob had any material loss of territory? Everyone seems to assume Bob is dead. Maybe for the sake of argument on the topic of this thread, but I was just wondering if I missed something.
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Frygok
Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Caillech I can't really tell from all of the threads, but has Bob had any material loss of territory? Everyone seems to assume Bob is dead. Maybe for the sake of argument on the topic of this thread, but I was just wondering if I missed something.
I think you suffer from selective reading then.
Ofcourse, alot of troll posts and ironic posts state that BOB are dead, but the majority of posts made by reasonable people from the Coalition actually state that it will be a long fight, and are just enjoying the pew pew.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:18:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Caillech I can't really tell from all of the threads, but has Bob had any material loss of territory? Everyone seems to assume Bob is dead. Maybe for the sake of argument on the topic of this thread, but I was just wondering if I missed something.
Phase 1 of the war was taking LV out of the equation as much as possible, while entertaining BoB in their mainland.
Phase 2 is enganged now, this includes capturing BoB territory. A few stations in the feythabolis area have changed hands till now, however BoB is still very strong in their mainlands. The outcome of the war remains open.
EVE War I - Quick Overview
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Darken Two
Gallente Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:25:00 -
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Ahhh all these goddamn alts and BoB supporters whining about bandwaggoning.
Most of you seem to have forgotten that BoB itslef was formed while banwaggoning against the now dead PA.
Thats life...the shoe's on the other foot...move along now children.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Guffy Edited by: Lord Guffy on 10/03/2007 01:21:48
Originally by: Jarling Fang [No smack, just calling it like I see it. Like I said, if you have a genuine interest in having an objective discussion about the war, I think a more balanced approach at presenting the issue will generate a more receptive response. Otherwise it just looks like a thinly veiled propaganda post.
Perhaps rather than trying to derail this thread you could post a constructive post as to why you think it WILL work? Your sole objection from your initial post was, as you say, that i'm churning out an old idea that your alliance partnerships won't last the test of time.
I've played this game since launch, and I don't see any partnership that has lasted that test of time. That includes most of the partnerships that my own corps and alliances have been in. History DOES go in cycles, or at very least changes its course so often that winners become losers, who most probably become winners again... etc...
Rather than trying to make this a thread about beating your chests and attempting to us it for short term political ends, I'd prefer it if you could make a reasoned argument as to what makes the Ragoon partnership sufficiently strong to last for many years.
This isn't about what's happening now, it's about what will happen in a years time. Belive it or not, some people here are interested in looking at the patterns of what we've created in this digital world, and aren't permanently thinking about success on the forums.
so what you're really asking, is...
when the heat gets turned on, and people are knocking on Ban Of's front door... how soon do you think the merc alliance(s) will turn on Band Of? As in, will it be at the beginning move? Will it be when half the Band Of's systems are lost? Will it be at a time when a group of the mercs are at an ideal location to cripple and destroy a capital Band Of's fleet? When will the alliances paying rent to Band Of take potshots? Are they secretly talking with merc corps, right now, and plotting a coup which will land them systems of their own, without anyone lording over them?
Those ARE interesting questions Lord Guffy.
I'm glad you asked. Because, I, for one, don't have those answers; but, like you, I'd also like to know what happens once the Band Of's meatshields have suddenly *collapsed*, only to show up with Dreads two weeks later, at the Band Of's final stand.
Maybe someone out there in TV land knows?
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thoth foc
Elcyion Lacar
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two the now dead PA.
Privateers are dead
/me run and hides _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB) |
Darken Two
Gallente Hybonashi Industries Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Darken Two the now dead PA.
Privateers are dead
/me run and hides
Lol I'll be stalking any thread you post on for a worthy comeback thoth. Such a mortal insult cannot be forgotten
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.11 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 11/03/2007 19:57:16
Originally by: Victor Vision
Summing it up I think it is relatively safe to say that the outcome of this war lies in the hands of the Coalition.
If the main players in the Coalition manage to stay together, they have a high chance of winning. If however the Coalition falls apart, BoB might gain the upper hand.
Maybe true, no idea, how it currently looks for BoB like if they suffer or have been only scratched so far.
But if the Coalition really wins, it's up to BoB, if they say 'Screw it !' and stop or if this conflict enters phase two.
BoB and Co. have the means to make a comeback, it's only a question of motivation. If BoB is without space, the coalition will celebrate and start to crumble. People will go back to normal life, because a pvp alliance without space is like a ghost. You can't really touch them. They can dodge blobs, freely choose targets and mainly fight on their terms. They can do that, until the motivation of their opponents goes down.
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Sean Drake
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.12 23:39:00 -
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The Goon+Ra is a perfect symbiotic relationship we have one group consisting of the biggest collection of complex *****s/farmers out side of RAT and there many alt corps and another who own/operate/have links with a large gtc selling website.
Everyones happy
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