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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2016.08.06 20:17:10 -
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Ms Kim, I understand your nationalistic fervor has a unique hold on your thoughts, but if you would please respect this forums topic it would be appreciated. Who we chose to do business is of no concern to you or anyone else, except our shareholders, Ishukone Corporation and those who hold a legal authority over such things, such as the Chief Executive Panel; even then said control has its limits. None of which you claim or hold ties to, so please do not turn this into a needless debate.
If you wish to attack our organization do so elsewhere, we will not stop you.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
85
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Posted - 2016.08.06 20:25:41 -
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Diana Kim wrote:If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.
Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once. Neither myself or members of the Federal milita to my knowledge have seen a Caldari POWS camp so that leaves 3 options 1. Makes no sense and is extremely improbable they just let them go 2.the camps are well concealed which is much more likely 3. Also likely they just kill any Gallente even if they are surrendering So based on your previous statements you preform 3 and that is a bad system 2 would mean you have something to hide better than the federals |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2745
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Posted - 2016.08.06 20:45:00 -
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Alex Hinkelmann wrote:Ms Kim, I understand your nationalistic fervor has a unique hold on your thoughts, but if you would please respect this forums topic it would be appreciated. Who we chose to do business is of no concern to you or anyone else, except our shareholders, Ishukone Corporation and those who hold a legal authority over such things, such as the Chief Executive Panel; even then said control has its limits. None of which you claim or hold ties to, so please do not turn this into a needless debate.
If you wish to attack our organization do so elsewhere, we will not stop you. I've only warned, you could have said thanks.
But if you want to step on a rake, go ahead, I'll just laugh when it will hit your forehead.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2745
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Posted - 2016.08.06 20:56:32 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote:Diana Kim wrote:If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.
Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once. Neither myself or members of the Federal milita to my knowledge have seen a Caldari POWS camp so that leaves 3 options 1. Makes no sense and is extremely improbable they just let them go 2.the camps are well concealed which is much more likely 3. Also likely they just kill any Gallente even if they are surrendering So based on your previous statements you preform 3 and that is a bad system 2 would mean you have something to hide better than the federals I have seen Gallente POW camps. They were concealed, use the search button on forum to find instructions how to find them, or start new discussion, I'll explain you there. Still I see no proofs of your words, and I don't think that keeping conversation with person like you will be fruitable. Facts are on my side, while you have just empty slanders about us, gallentean.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
87
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Posted - 2016.08.06 21:07:03 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote:Diana Kim wrote:If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.
Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once. Neither myself or members of the Federal milita to my knowledge have seen a Caldari POWS camp so that leaves 3 options 1. Makes no sense and is extremely improbable they just let them go 2.the camps are well concealed which is much more likely 3. Also likely they just kill any Gallente even if they are surrendering So based on your previous statements you preform 3 and that is a bad system 2 would mean you have something to hide better than the federals I have seen Gallente POW camps. They were concealed, use the search button on forum to find instructions how to find them, or start new discussion, I'll explain you there. Still I see no proofs of your words, and I don't think that keeping conversation with person like you will be fruitable. Facts are on my side, while you have just empty slanders about us, gallentean. How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case. |
Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
87
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Posted - 2016.08.06 21:08:53 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote:Diana Kim wrote:If you have proofs like we have against gallenteans, then please be so kind to present them. I'll myself investigate this issue as well.
Otherwise, if you can't prove we mistreat POWs, be so kind to bring public apologies for insulting of our system and cease your dirty insinuations at once. Neither myself or members of the Federal milita to my knowledge have seen a Caldari POWS camp so that leaves 3 options 1. Makes no sense and is extremely improbable they just let them go 2.the camps are well concealed which is much more likely 3. Also likely they just kill any Gallente even if they are surrendering So based on your previous statements you preform 3 and that is a bad system 2 would mean you have something to hide better than the federals I have seen Gallente POW camps. They were concealed, use the search button on forum to find instructions how to find them, or start new discussion, I'll explain you there. Still I see no proofs of your words, and I don't think that keeping conversation with person like you will be fruitable. Facts are on my side, while you have just empty slanders about us, gallentean. How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case. By the way I will have a clone soldier clone to visit the prisons |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2745
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Posted - 2016.08.06 22:19:24 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote: How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.
When I accuse gallenteans in something, I have proofs in my sleeve. What do you have besides your false accusations? That's your duty to bring proofs to your words. If you can't do this, I don't have time for this, and will just dismiss your baseless claims as empty slanders.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
88
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Posted - 2016.08.06 22:56:13 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote: How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.
When I accuse gallenteans in something, I have proofs in my sleeve. What do you have besides your false accusations? That's your duty to bring proofs to your words. If you can't do this, I don't have time for this, and will just dismiss your baseless claims as empty slanders. Well I know that you kill Gallente who have the misfortune of being at YOUR mercy and if I am to believe that your system treats POWs well I need evidence because from my experience in a Caldari POW Camp Where I was tortured and sexually abused until the Camp came under Ishukone control and I was released was just as bad if not worse than Gallente POW camps |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Wrecking Machine.
6110
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Posted - 2016.08.06 23:10:20 -
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Slayer Liberator wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote: How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.
When I accuse gallenteans in something, I have proofs in my sleeve. What do you have besides your false accusations? That's your duty to bring proofs to your words. If you can't do this, I don't have time for this, and will just dismiss your baseless claims as empty slanders. Well I know that you kill Gallente who have the misfortune of being at YOUR mercy and if I am to believe that your system treats POWs well I need evidence because from my experience in a Caldari POW Camp Where I was tortured and sexually abused until the Camp came under Ishukone control and I was released was just as bad if not worse than Gallente POW camps
I'd like to see some proof that your personal experience was anything other than that - personal and illegal. As a former employee of the Peace and Order Unit I have some experience with Caldari Law Enforcement and am keen to see whether you are doing anything more than countering what you see as rumourmongering with more of the same.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
49
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Posted - 2016.08.07 00:06:09 -
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I wish to convey this in the most polite manner possible, theoretical atrocities, or even legitimate ones have no place in a public financial release.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Slayer Liberator
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
90
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Posted - 2016.08.07 01:03:31 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote: How about you prove me wrong by showing me a Caldari POWS camp where the prisoners were treated humanely and prove that that is normal by the way I want to interview some of the prisoners. I will select the prisoners myself and ask them about their treatment. I will use a lie detector on both the prisoners and the jailmasters I wish to go to multiple prisons to make sure I don't run into a fringe case.
When I accuse gallenteans in something, I have proofs in my sleeve. What do you have besides your false accusations? That's your duty to bring proofs to your words. If you can't do this, I don't have time for this, and will just dismiss your baseless claims as empty slanders. Well I know that you kill Gallente who have the misfortune of being at YOUR mercy and if I am to believe that your system treats POWs well I need evidence because from my experience in a Caldari POW Camp Where I was tortured and sexually abused until the Camp came under Ishukone control and I was released was just as bad if not worse than Gallente POW camps I'd like to see some proof that your personal experience was anything other than that - personal and illegal. As a former employee of the Peace and Order Unit I have some experience with Caldari Law Enforcement and am keen to see whether you are doing anything more than countering what you see as rumourmongering with more of the same. Well I have nothing but anecdotal evidence but I just want to know how Gallentean people are treated upon capture and if the behavior Kim promotes is normal if not I apologize for my statements about your treatment of POWs but I would like to know what happened to the jailmasters at that POW camp and would gladly seek out similar camps.I don't want what happened to me to happen to anyone else regardless of race. Actually I will attempt to make a foundation to help POWs who are being abused get rehabilitated as soon as my Implant gets fixed and I am able to use this clone properly |
Jason Galente
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
692
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Posted - 2016.08.10 01:31:27 -
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Diana Kim wrote:As for Makoto Priano's intervention... I'd like to remind readers that the person under question have already shown herself to the IGS earlier as a liar, who has chosen life of dishonor. (Ref.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381560 ) Making business with this person is ill-advised. And, obviously, considering Priano as "State-loyal" person would be... inadequate to reality.
This is getting really ******* annoying. You have been doing this bullshit any time Makoto enters a discussion for the last 2 years straight. If that isn't malicious harassment, I don't know what is.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2748
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Posted - 2016.08.10 20:58:18 -
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Jason Galente wrote:Diana Kim wrote:As for Makoto Priano's intervention... I'd like to remind readers that the person under question have already shown herself to the IGS earlier as a liar, who has chosen life of dishonor. (Ref.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381560 ) Making business with this person is ill-advised. And, obviously, considering Priano as "State-loyal" person would be... inadequate to reality. This is getting really ******* annoying. You have been doing this bullshit any time Makoto enters a discussion for the last 2 years straight. If that isn't malicious harassment, I don't know what is. Her words that she might be "Caldari" are insulting to us.
She has made her choice about how she will live her life. If she will behave like it never happened, I will remind about it.
Next, she has never contacted me since, and kept spreading lies about me. Conflict was her choice, not mine. I have offered her hand... twice, she behaved hostile in reply. I am not going to make any other attempts at regulating relations with her. She is adult and can make her own choices... and pay for them.
This is rather simple. She wanted conflict. She started it. She got it. I tried to stop it. She did nothing to stop it.
Though I understand your desire to defend her... taking into account your own personal cowardice and lack of honor, and your own offensive behavior towards me, that you couldn't back with anything besides your empty words.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
8566
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Posted - 2016.08.10 21:25:37 -
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It's always interesting when Kim pipes up as the singular defender of What It Means To Be Caldari, given her prior insults toward Patriot stalwart Tuulinen-haan, her illegal firing on militia-mates in prior years, her stated willingness to selectively ignore direct orders when they disagree with her political stance on Provism, and her bald-faced willingness to ignore historical fact when confronted with it.
Still, that is not a conversation for this place. Kim, you've already polluted dozens of threads with this nonsense. Do you really need to bring it into yet another?
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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
59
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Posted - 2016.08.10 21:40:19 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Still, that is not a conversation for this place. Kim, you've already polluted dozens of threads with this nonsense. Do you really need to bring it into yet another?
Agreed, as I've already stated politely. This is a public financial release and has nothing to do with personal feuds, legitimate or not.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2748
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Posted - 2016.08.11 00:37:16 -
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Makoto Priano wrote: Still, that is not a conversation for this place. Kim, you've already polluted dozens of threads with this nonsense. Do you really need to bring it into yet another?
Then don't open your mouth about me (and about Caldari in general), Priano. You have already presented yourself to the whole IGS as a liar, and a honorless coward. And I don't think that your words can change anything, only annoy readers. Could you be so kind to tone it down and stop distracting me from the important things?
Meanwhile I would like to remind anyone to return to the discussion about treacherous behavior of the corporation and how their treason was obvious from the financial report they have posted.
They have invested into Enemies of the State, and such behavior shall not be left without attention.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
306
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Posted - 2016.08.11 03:50:47 -
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Well you're more than welcomed to try and do something about it Kimmy dear.
Until you do, feel free to shut your Provist trap and clean up the saliva you have drooling from your oversized mouth hole. I'm sure if you have such an issue with an Ishukone-loyal entity conducting business with outsiders like just about every other megacorporation in the State, then you can take your stupid drivel to a new thread instead of derailing the topic of this thread. Thanks. |
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