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Lucifer Severasse
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.05 22:52:14 -
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Hi, new to the game 56yr old based in UK only dipped my toes in space for a few minutes to get a quick feel for the game and it seems right up my street, however in real life i work shifts and am concerned about solo player survival, is it possible also i must confess i am not the best pvp player in the world and try to avoid it when i can and employ a more tactical stratadgy rather than direct full on combat is this a viable play style or not? and last but not least which race would i be more suited too. i like the sound of caldari and missile's
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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
856
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Posted - 2016.08.05 23:05:22 -
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eve is far more enjoyable when played in company with others, it really doesn't lend itself to solo play. try to find yourself a player corp, or join one of the large newbro friendly organisations like Pandemic Hoard or KarmaFleet.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17253
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Posted - 2016.08.05 23:50:23 -
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dont worry mate, most of us have lives, kids and so fourth . any corp worth joining will be cool with your irl schedule and **** them if not.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26534
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Posted - 2016.08.05 23:55:55 -
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Lucifer Severasse wrote:Hi, new to the game 56yr old based in UK only dipped my toes in space for a few minutes to get a quick feel for the game and it seems right up my street, however in real life i work shifts and am concerned about solo player survival, is it possible Solo is totally survivable if that's how you want to play, but you should be aware that playing Eve solo is hard.
I wouldn't worry about working shifts when it comes to joining a corp, some of the smaller ones may only be single timezone but a large majority of the corps out there are 24/7 with people from every timezone in them so you'll generally have people to play and chat with.
If you do split shifts I feel for you, those things really screw you up.
Quote:also i must confess i am not the best pvp player in the world and try to avoid it when i can and employ a more tactical stratadgy rather than direct full on combat is this a viable play style or not? If by tactically you mean using the game mechanics and any knowledge you have in order to mitigate most of the risk of exploding at the hands of others, unless it's on your terms, then yep it's a viable playstyle; you don't have to shoot other people in the face in Eve at all if you don't want to. Ironically the best place to pick up tips on how to do so is asking for advice from the people who would make you explode.
Quote:and last but not least which race would i be more suited too. i like the sound of caldari and missile's
thanks Doesn't make a difference at all, the only things restricting you from flying any of the available ships are isk and skill points.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2016.08.06 02:34:52 -
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Lucifer Severasse wrote:Hi, new to the game 56yr old based in UK only dipped my toes in space for a few minutes to get a quick feel for the game and it seems right up my street, however in real life i work shifts and am concerned about solo player survival, is it possible also i must confess i am not the best pvp player in the world and try to avoid it when i can and employ a more tactical stratadgy rather than direct full on combat is this a viable play style or not? and last but not least which race would i be more suited too. i like the sound of caldari and missile's
thanks
As above. Joining a corp and making friends is what keeps players in the game. PvP is not just about blowing ships up, it is the entire experience. Personally, I specialize in smuggling. Shipping goods through dangerous space. So I don't shoot back, I flee. But it is still pvp, and my fleeing skills are pretty decent.
Pick bigger corps so you are more likely to be able to participate in events whenever you can play.
But yea, just about everything is potentially a viable playstyle. Being a good PVP player is not necessary, but understanding the theory and mechanics of PVP is important to avoid and mitigate encounters so they do not ruin the fun but enhance it.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
55920
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Posted - 2016.08.06 02:35:09 -
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Hello and welcome to Eve.
Yes the game can be played solo and you don't have to join a Player Corp to enjoy it. I do recommend making friends and being active in a few chat channels.
As for PvP, I do a version of it that I call Stealth PvP, meaning I hide while they seek. Basically my moto is 'Have cloak, will travel'.
After 8 years of playing this game I'm still in the starter NPC Corp and my main career path is exploration and mission running. I'm active in half a dozen chat channels and have friends who help each other whenever possible.
May you have a long and rewarding career here in Eve.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Memphis Baas
1886
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Posted - 2016.08.06 04:32:24 -
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Race only matters for roleplay; otherwise you're free to train the skills to unlock whatever ships you want, even from multiple empires. There are no penalties.
Caldari typically have missiles, rail guns, and shield defenses. Popular for PVE because missiles are versatile and easy mode. Their PVP ships are popular for ECM target jamming (if you can't target you can't do anything, so it's the equivalent of a full stun). Also for long range sniping with the rails, and various other applications.
Gallente typically have drones, short range blasters, and armor defenses. Popular for PVE because drones are very versatile. Their PVP ships are popular because blasters and drones can do good damage, and the versatility of each ship permits fitting for different purposes.
Amarr typically have lasers, drones, and armor defenses. They're ok for PVE; their ships are popular for PVP because lasers don't require ammo, their ships have very solid armor defenses (tanks), and nasty with energy drain electronic warfare.
Minmatar typically have projectiles (artillery, autocannons), missiles, drones, shield or armor; basically, whatever they can jury-rig together (lore-wise). Their ships are fast, but you need a larger variety of skills trained, to support the different subsystems they use. Popular in PVP because you can always find a good ship to do whichever kind of PVP you want, from wars to suicide-ganking. Their weapons do good damage and don't require energy to fire, and speed is always nice to have.
The basic lineup of ships is frigate -> destroyer -> cruiser -> battlecruiser -> battleship. The basic "tech 1" ships are versatile, can be fitted for different purposes, and are popular even with the veterans.
For each tonnage class, there are advanced "tech 2" and "tech 3" ships that you can train for; these are super-specialized ships, they have a huge strength and also several huge vulnerabilities, so they're more suited for group play, where you can organize a fleet with a specialized tackler, specialized DPS, specialized tank, specialized jammers, etc., and function as a group.
There's a Ship Chart in-game, and also there are stats and some basic fitting guides on the EVE University wiki (maintained by players). Look around, see what you like, ask questions here, and basically use your newbie time to figure out what you might like. |
Tzuke
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.06 06:10:05 -
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Hiya mate 53 year old West Midlands male here :) I mostly play GMT mornings so I can get where your coming from. I'm still in the npc corp, I'd like to join a player Corp but being a mmo vet I'm well accustomed to how guilds etc very rarely do or act as advertised...not like back in the day heh. Still besides that minor niggle I still find things to do. I did chose Caldari and going down the missiles route like your considering. Unfortunately I became trapped in doing missions chasing the skills to fit a Raven so I can't mix content up without backtracking. What I should have done was learn the skills to equip a moderate exploration ship so I could switch between mission running and exploration. Oh well once I've got the sills I need to fit the Raven exploration will be my next project.
Apart from being ganked once I've avoided pvp while mission running. Pvp might be fun to try if they had a sort of battlegrounds where ship types would be limited and risk of isk loss reduced but that's not EVE is about. (Now there's an idea for you CCP) You can be sure your first foray into pvp will be a short one.
Hang out in help chat and eve uni channels. The same names appear regularly offering snippets of advice plus one old bloke who's totally lost! (that's me) I did buy a plex (16 quid) to transfer into isk as when I lost my ship that wiped out the isk I'd made that week heh
You could always chat with me ingame...only if your after witty banter...if your after pearls of wisdom regarding isk making tips/perfect ship builds etc....you can bugger off :) |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
504
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Posted - 2016.08.06 07:32:38 -
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57 year old here :)
Yes it is entirely possible to play solo, but what I would suggest is doing the tutorials to get a feel of what's on offer, and get the free isk and ships etc.
As for race, weapons, ships etc..just go with your gut feelings, you're old enough to know that they work :)
Career wise, hit up the career agents, again you'll get a feel for the different professions.
Corps are up to you, join a player one or not, as DeMichael said, stay in an NPC one for as long as you want.
One last thing (this will happen) don't ever let ANYONE tell you you're playing the game wrong, do what you want, when you want, most of all........have fun and enjoy. Welcome to the game o7 |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1632
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Posted - 2016.08.06 08:01:25 -
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There's many ways to pvp in this game, most of which do not involve actually engaging another player in combat.
Since the goals of eve aren't set like in other games, winning in "pvp" is entirely down to your own definition.
For example you could steal someone's loot and get away with it. or make someone die to npcs by triggering more spawns etc. Lot's of ways to mess with people in this game :D |
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2732
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Posted - 2016.08.06 08:14:31 -
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Welcome to New Eden! Solo play is totally doable, and most of the PvE and ISK making activities are solo content. But the scripted content of EvE is rather elementary and becomes repetitive and boring fast. The real potential of This is EvE and what most of us keep hooked are the player written stories and group activities ... means big fleet fights, small gangs, roams, black ops, camps, solo PvP.
Joining a bigger player corp is usually a good thing, as you can use and contribute to an existing eco system, other corp members will teach you, handout free stuff, take you on roams, etc. Without that you have to build up your EvE existence on your own from scratch, no safety net, which can also be fun and rewarding. I have taken that route and still happy with, also thanks to the NPSI community and public fleet offerings from Spectre Fleet, Bombers Bar and the german Stille Gewalt.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tzuke
State War Academy Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2016.08.06 08:20:41 -
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Just like to add what others have hinted at, find the career agents and do their missions which is a nice way to get some ships, isk, and a few bits of kit. There's a mission arc consisting of around 50 missions which Is a bit more "structured" called the Sisters of Eve epic arc which leads you around more than just finding your own content.
It would be nice to see how you progress with the game from a total new players perspective |
Tao Dolcino
EVE University Ivy League
581
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Posted - 2016.08.06 10:35:54 -
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For the race : it doesn't matter, pick the one you like most for your portrait
For solo play : yes, it's possible to solo in EVE, but it's getting fast boring. You'd have much more fun joining a new players friendly corporation active in your time zone. (EVE University would be a great choice ). Feel free to contact me in game or here if i can do anything to help
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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Major Trant
287 Marine Regiment
1451
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Posted - 2016.08.06 11:38:55 -
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There is only one thing that really matters when you pick a race - the noob ship you will automatically receive whenever you need one. Yes I am being serious! The Gallente are the preferred choice. The Gallente noob ship has a larger cargohold than the others and can carry two drones. Thus it is sought by Cyno pilots for it's cargohold and by PvPers that engage in 'fun' noobship fights. The others have advantages in Armor, Shield, Speed etc - all of which are totally useless considering the amounts involved. But 20m of cargospace can make the difference as to whether you can light a Cyno or not, without having to fit a T2 Expanded Cargohold. Which aren't always available when you need one, especially the sort of places where you want to light a cyno.
Conversely the Amarr noobship is the worst one.
Yes I know I'm Minmatar (2nd best noobship), but it isn't worth rerolling the char for, once you have got a few Million SP under your belt. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1576
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Posted - 2016.08.06 13:29:21 -
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Tzuke wrote:Hiya mate 53 year old West Midlands male here :) being a mmo vet I'm well accustomed to how guilds etc very rarely do or act as advertised... Corps in Eve operate very differently from guilds. They are far enough apart that I would say that are not really comparable.
Just in general in Eve I've found that I benefit more by forgetting what I've learned from other MMOs other than trying to apply it to Eve. Of course that's just been my experience and your results may very. I'm just suggesting you approach corps in Eve with an open mind and don't assume that they are like guilds. At least for me the game got far more enjoyable once I took that mindset and I struggled previously when I tried to play this game like it was one of the many WoW clones out there. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1576
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Posted - 2016.08.06 13:30:54 -
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Major Trant wrote:
Conversely the Amarr noobship is the worst one.
but it's so pretty. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1576
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Posted - 2016.08.06 13:45:19 -
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Lucifer Severasse wrote:in real life i work shifts and am concerned about solo player survival, is it possible
Shift work is totally doable. Solo gameplay is doable but may not be as much fun. Also depends on what you mean by solo. Take DMC for example: He's still in his starter corp which some people would consider solo gameplay but he's active in several channels / communities so he does get involved with others.
I am going to give an example here and am not recommending you do this but just as an example to show you what is possible.
I am in a very small player corp that exists in the Providence region in null sec. We do not hold sov but since Provi is NRDS we can live there. We have one member that is AU TZ. He was more often than not the only one in corp chat when he was logged in. However he was very active in local groups and would join local PuGs for mining and PvP and stuff like that. My point is more that you can do stuff with other people without being in the same corp as them. Also if you make friends you'll have plenty of opportunities for fun.
Lucifer Severasse wrote: also i must confess i am not the best pvp player in the world and try to avoid it when i can and employ a more tactical stratadgy rather than direct full on combat is this a viable play style or not?
I also am not a fan of PvP and again I live in null sec. Tactical strategy is what Eve's middle name should be. This game is all about tactical strategies and if you get good at employing them you will go far in this game.
Lucifer Severasse wrote: and last but not least which race would i be more suited too. i like the sound of caldari and missile's
With regards to which race you choose to be, you've already been given lots of good advice. With regards to which race's ship you fly I recommend that you try them all. Eve is a game that rewards versatility more than specialization. Therefore I often recommend to very new players that you train all 4 race's frigate and maybe even destroyer up to level 3 as well as racial weapons skills and then focus more on generic ship and weapon's skills. Try them all out and once you get a feel for what you like you'll know what to train. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
55924
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Posted - 2016.08.06 14:24:32 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote: For solo play : yes, it's possible to solo in EVE, but it's getting fast boring.
Playing solo doesn't make the game get boring fast. Don't know why people keep saying that. Being unsociable is what makes the game get boring fast. If you make friends and are sociably active and helpful, the game will be anything but boring. Just remember 'What goes around, comes around'..
I've also seen people say doing PvE content is boring and repetitive. In a way that's true but it all depends on how you engage that content. If it does start to seem like that, there's lot's of ways to make the PvE content more exciting, challenging and enjoyable.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Tao Dolcino
EVE University Ivy League
582
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Posted - 2016.08.06 14:53:09 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Tao Dolcino wrote: For solo play : yes, it's possible to solo in EVE, but it's getting fast boring.
Playing solo doesn't make the game get boring fast. Don't know why people keep saying that. Being unsociable is what makes the game get boring fast. If you make friends and are sociably active and helpful, the game will be anything but boring. Just remember 'What goes around, comes around'.. I've also seen people say doing PvE content is boring and repetitive. In a way that's true but it all depends on how you engage that content. If it does start to seem like that, there's lot's of ways to make the PvE content more exciting, challenging and enjoyable. DMC
That's true, i stand corrected, there are some activities i enjoy alone (but some others are really boring ), but i think we mean the same at the end : don't stay in your corner, it's a social game
I have an example : i find mining totally boring (personnal opinion), but recently i was scouting for a mining fleet, which was maybe the most passive thing i have done in my whole time in EVE, but chating with them was really pleasant, and i have not been bored at all during these hours.
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
1023
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Posted - 2016.08.06 15:16:04 -
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Major Trant wrote:There is only one thing that really matters when you pick a race - the noob ship you will automatically receive whenever you need one. Yes I am being serious! The Gallente are the preferred choice. The Gallente noob ship has a larger cargohold than the others and can carry two drones. Thus it is sought by Cyno pilots for it's cargohold and by PvPers that engage in 'fun' noobship fights. The others have advantages in Armor, Shield, Speed etc - all of which are totally useless considering the amounts involved. But 20m of cargospace can make the difference as to whether you can light a Cyno or not, without having to fit a T2 Expanded Cargohold. Which aren't always available when you need one, especially the sort of places where you want to light a cyno.
Conversely the Amarr noobship is the worst one.
Yes I know I'm Minmatar (2nd best noobship), but it isn't worth rerolling the char for, once you have got a few Million SP under your belt.
People do sell rookie ships on the market. So you don't even have to let that tie you down.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17274
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Posted - 2016.08.06 15:17:37 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Major Trant wrote:
Conversely the Amarr noobship is the worst one.
but it's so pretty. hes just jellous
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
31779
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Posted - 2016.08.06 15:48:45 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:Major Trant wrote:
Conversely the Amarr noobship is the worst one.
but it's so pretty. hes just jellous
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:hes just jellous
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:jellous
D:
It spells properly or gets the troll again!
*snickers*
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26542
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Posted - 2016.08.06 16:18:44 -
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^^ Ralph's native tongue uses every expletive in the English language as verbs, his blood alcohol level is probably quite close to that of a human being at this time of the day too; we can give him some leeway
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
31783
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Posted - 2016.08.06 16:46:45 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^ Ralph's native tongue uses every expletive in the English language as verbs, his blood alcohol level is probably quite close to that of a human being at this time of the day too; we can give him some leeway He's at the same time one of the most well mannered, reasonable and down-to-earth people I ever met in EVE. He is honest, intelligent and open for possibilities and change.
And that's why it hurts so much. ^_^
Now back to your regular thread.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Tzuke
State War Academy Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2016.08.06 17:51:25 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:[quote=Tzuke]Hiya mate 53 year old West Midlands male here :) being a mmo vet I'm well accustomed to how guilds etc very rarely do or act as advertised... Corps in Eve operate very differently from guilds. They are far enough apart that I would say that are not really comparable.
Just in general in Eve I've found that I benefit more by forgetting what I've learned from other MMOs other than trying to apply it to Eve. Of course that's just been my experience and your results may very. I'm just suggesting you approach corps in Eve with an open mind and don't assume that they are like guilds. At least for me the game got far more enjoyable once I took that mindset and I struggled previously when I tried to play this game like it was one of the many WoW clones out there. [/quote
I'm not adverse to joining a Corp in Eve, as long as they make it clear what they offer, I'm just worried that a Corp offering such things as pve content are only interested in pvp. I've had random invites inviting me to join a Corp...don't they want to know who I am first? What can I offer them? I've played many mmos over the years and seen guilds etc offering guild runs, raiding, social gaming but done none of it
Back in the day playing daoc you'd find a group of people, spend days grinding on the same mob until you were powerful enough for the next round of harder mobs... Not the most stimulating way of spending your time, but what made you come back for more was the people you met and counted as friends :)
Something seems to be lost with mmos now :(
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1578
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Posted - 2016.08.07 05:25:11 -
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Tzuke wrote:I'm just worried that a Corp offering such things as pve content are only interested in pvp.
In this game it's more often the other way around. Corps claiming to be PvP when they are only PvE.
Tzuke wrote: I've had random invites inviting me to join a Corp...don't they want to know who I am first? What can I offer them?
First off that only happens in high sec. You have high sec corps looking to make isk from taxing new players and don't care about much else. Null sec corps are a totally different story. You basically need to submit DNA samples and go through a Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory test combined with a full NSA above top secret background investigation.
As far as what you have to offer them most corps do not care. At least not from a character perspective. Your skill points don't mean much in this game people just care if you are fun to play with.
Most other MMOs that I've played have some type of heavily structured game play. In WoW for example if you were doing a 25 man raid each person had to be well geared and able to pull the right numbers or the whole group would suffer. Same thing in a 40 man BG or a 3 vs. 3 arena match.
In Eve you can run a mission by yourself or bring 750 of your closest friends with you. If a group of 7 guys is going out on a PvP roam an 8th person in group is typically more than welcome to go. So the basic structure of this game typically encourages a "the more the merrier" kind of attitude.
On the flipside of that all the spying and infiltration and such encourage a level of paranoia that I don't see as being good for any game. But then I have yet to find the perfect game and to me Eve has a lot of ups to offset the downs. |
Lucifer Severasse
University of Caille Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2016.08.07 10:00:06 -
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Thanks for all the replies, feel kind of better about playing the game now |
Tzuke
State War Academy Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2016.08.07 10:56:37 -
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Lucifer Severasse wrote:Thanks for all the replies, feel kind of better about playing the game now
Hope all your queries have been answered. Be on the lookout for you in help/eve uni chat :)
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
1024
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Posted - 2016.08.07 22:17:34 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^ Ralph's native tongue uses every expletive in the English language as verbs, his blood alcohol level is probably quite close to that of a human being at this time of the day too; we can give him some leeway He's at the same time one of the most well mannered, reasonable and down-to-earth people I ever met in EVE. He is honest, intelligent and open for possibilities and change. And that's why it hurts so much. ^_^ Now back to your regular thread.
Of course Sol is back right when I'm about to let my account expire again. It's like a leap-frog kinda thing.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Lucifer Severasse
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2016.08.08 06:31:43 -
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can anyone supply me with a upto date link on the correct way to setup my overview, i tried to do this blind and think i have messed it all up :(
many thanks
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