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Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg
Hand of The King
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Posted - 2016.08.06 20:48:53 -
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So I have a slight problem. I am currently Running 10 Eve clients at the same time. But the GPU/CPU usage is immense in such a way that my GTX 970 is at 100% usage and my I7-3770K 4.2Ghz cpu is at 100% This makes it dangerous for me to fly from 1 system to another and doing it 1 at a time is wasting time thus wasting isk.
Now the Next problem I have is that I am currently Running 2 Screens(getting a third soon) Which means I have 5 clients on each screen. But since the lowest resolution which is 1024*768 is too big I am forced to overlap. is it possible to reduce it even further?
I really need help with these 2 things.
I remember back in the days I was easily able to handle 15 clients at same time but not anylonger :'( |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.08.06 20:51:04 -
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Quote:So I have a slight problem. I am currently Running 10 Eve clients at the same time.
Problem detected!
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
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Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg
Hand of The King
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Posted - 2016.08.06 20:58:45 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Quote:So I have a slight problem. I am currently Running 10 Eve clients at the same time. Problem detected!
Yeah But I want to be able to play despite that problem.
I know it can be done. seen many of those super multiboxers. And while my system is slightly old it should be able to handle it.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17281
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Posted - 2016.08.06 21:01:04 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Quote:So I have a slight problem. I am currently Running 10 Eve clients at the same time. Problem detected! One of my mates runs 18 accounts at once without much complaint so its clearly a local one for the op. Not one i have a solution for mind.
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Lex Gabinia
Res Repetundae
87
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Posted - 2016.08.06 21:01:14 -
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File a support ticket what the **** do you think we are going to do about it in GD?
Oh yeah flame you mercilessly - 3, 2,1....enjoy. |
Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg
Hand of The King
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Posted - 2016.08.06 21:04:10 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Quote:So I have a slight problem. I am currently Running 10 Eve clients at the same time. Problem detected! One of my mates runs 18 accounts at once without much complaint so its clearly a local one for the op. Not one i have a solution for mind.
Yeah I was able to do 15 back before the big avatar update.
To be fair my computer back then was really bad.
this is how it looks atm. http://i.imgur.com/CeN0YXZ.jpg |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
31805
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Posted - 2016.08.06 21:31:26 -
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You should assign every client a specific core or at least spread them out manually across them. You can do so in the task manager.
Avoid logicals, go for real cores. The real ones usually are 0,2,4,6, but no idea how your windows version handles that, so better look it up first.
It will remove work from the scheduler and ease up on the cache misses. I'd also suggest removing as many background processes that use even tiny specs of cpu time regularly.
If you do not need to see all the clients at the same time ... ... you should also look into virtual desktops.
That's all I can offer, which sadly isn't too much.
Also: You're nuts. ^_^ Good luck! :)
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
874
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Posted - 2016.08.08 04:19:49 -
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Youre just bragging about your system tbh and youre a troll either way.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.08 04:57:18 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Youre just bragging about your system tbh and youre a troll either way. its just a moderate system? that cpu is 3 gens old. Its not great and not bad either. idk why you always dismiss everyone as a troll.
To the OP: Your system is a little outdated. Eve has gone through updates that make it more taxing. I would advise at least a 4th gen intel CPU and a 980ti(gone down a LOT in price) or a gtx 1070 or 1080. You are asking too much from that hardware. |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
875
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Posted - 2016.08.08 06:38:08 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Youre just bragging about your system tbh and youre a troll either way. its just a moderate system? that cpu is 3 gens old. Its not great and not bad either. idk why you always dismiss everyone as a troll. To the OP: Your system is a little outdated. Eve has gone through updates that make it more taxing. I would advise at least a 4th gen intel CPU and a 980ti(gone down a LOT in price) or a gtx 1070 or 1080. You are asking too much from that hardware. Because I know from personal experience I can do the same thing with way less hardware....
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg
Hand of The King
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Posted - 2016.08.08 08:28:34 -
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Solecist Project wrote:You should assign every client a specific core or at least spread them out manually across them. You can do so in the task manager.
Avoid logicals, go for real cores. The real ones usually are 0,2,4,6, but no idea how your windows version handles that, so better look it up first.
It will remove work from the scheduler and ease up on the cache misses. I'd also suggest removing as many background processes that use even tiny specs of cpu time regularly.
If you do not need to see all the clients at the same time ... ... you should also look into virtual desktops.
That's all I can offer, which sadly isn't too much.
Also: You're nuts. ^_^ Good luck! :)
Thank you, I will try some of these things.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.08 17:07:55 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Youre just bragging about your system tbh and youre a troll either way. its just a moderate system? that cpu is 3 gens old. Its not great and not bad either. idk why you always dismiss everyone as a troll. To the OP: Your system is a little outdated. Eve has gone through updates that make it more taxing. I would advise at least a 4th gen intel CPU and a 980ti(gone down a LOT in price) or a gtx 1070 or 1080. You are asking too much from that hardware. Because I know from personal experience I can do the same thing with way less hardware.... you mean 10 years ago? The games last few updates have really upped the demand... |
TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2016.08.08 21:55:06 -
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Three years in, running three accounts, seven characters, a couple corps on three purpose built computers. My take was one client per computer and it's worked pretty good for me. I just can't imagine running that many clients on one box, and while I realize there are aspects to this game that will forever be unknown to me I just can't imagine why one would run that many clients on a single box.
Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps
and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26565
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Posted - 2016.08.08 23:02:44 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Youre just bragging about your system tbh and youre a troll either way. its just a moderate system? that cpu is 3 gens old. Its not great and not bad either. idk why you always dismiss everyone as a troll. To the OP: Your system is a little outdated. Eve has gone through updates that make it more taxing. I would advise at least a 4th gen intel CPU and a 980ti(gone down a LOT in price) or a gtx 1070 or 1080. You are asking too much from that hardware. Not everybody can afford, or wants, to spend that kind of money on a PC. Many of us are probably running machines that are 5 or more years old with lots of ram and halfway decent graphics cards, and we use them for everything.
Multiple clients is possible on machines of a way lesser spec, Eve isn't exactly heavy on resources if you don't want it to look pretty, I occasionally run a single client on a 5 year old netbook ffs.
While I consider 10 accounts a little excessive the OP's hardware should be adequate with the gfx turned down.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Demolishar
United Aggression
1130
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Posted - 2016.08.09 00:03:47 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Youre just bragging about your system tbh and youre a troll either way. its just a moderate system? that cpu is 3 gens old. Its not great and not bad either. idk why you always dismiss everyone as a troll. To the OP: Your system is a little outdated. Eve has gone through updates that make it more taxing. I would advise at least a 4th gen intel CPU and a 980ti(gone down a LOT in price) or a gtx 1070 or 1080. You are asking too much from that hardware. Not everybody can afford, or wants, to spend that kind of money on a PC. Many of us are probably running machines that are 5 or more years old with lots of ram and halfway decent graphics cards, and we use them for everything. Multiple clients is possible on machines of a way lesser spec, Eve isn't exactly heavy on resources if you don't want it to look pretty, I occasionally run a single client on a 5 year old netbook ffs. While I consider 10 accounts a little excessive the OP's hardware should be adequate with the gfx turned down.
I run 11 clients smoothly on 2 screens on an mid-range 8 year old PC! |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26566
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Posted - 2016.08.09 00:24:10 -
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^^ heh mine was a mid range off the shelf PC 7 years ago, it's had a few upgrades over the years though; plenty of ram, an ssd a couple of gfx cards.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.09 02:35:14 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^ heh mine was a mid range off the shelf PC 7 years ago, it's had a few upgrades over the years though; plenty of ram, an ssd a couple of gfx cards. SSD and GPUs are major upgrades. The SSD alone is a MASSIVE deal. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17314
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Posted - 2016.08.09 03:46:47 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^ heh mine was a mid range off the shelf PC 7 years ago, it's had a few upgrades over the years though; plenty of ram, an ssd a couple of gfx cards. SSD and GPUs are major upgrades. The SSD alone is a MASSIVE deal. ssd is definitely something i would recommend. its such a pleasing improvement i would seriously suggest throwing one on an old system and migrating both the os and eve over nearly anything els. edit : seriously, even a small cheapish one and only have the os and eve on it, keep everything els on the other hd, do it.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
26567
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Posted - 2016.08.09 06:21:46 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^ heh mine was a mid range off the shelf PC 7 years ago, it's had a few upgrades over the years though; plenty of ram, an ssd a couple of gfx cards. SSD and GPUs are major upgrades. The SSD alone is a MASSIVE deal. You're right they are fairly major upgrades, but they go nowhere near what you were suggesting and in the case of the SSD replaced ailing components.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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bardghost Isu
Unity of Suns Warped Intentions
43
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Posted - 2016.08.09 12:12:21 -
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Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg wrote: Now the Next problem I have is that I am currently Running 2 Screens(getting a third soon) Which means I have 5 clients on each screen. But since the lowest resolution which is 1024*768 is too big I am forced to overlap. is it possible to reduce it even further? (
OP the advice i'd give for that is to look at LG's Screen split program, It is like where windows will set a program on a half of the screen, however the LG one will force the program into such resolution even when it normally wont go, I can do 3 accounts all on my 25 inch screen with it, but I think it can split up to 4 on one screen
There's No Kill Like Overkill !
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
31979
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Posted - 2016.08.09 15:56:43 -
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bardghost Isu wrote:Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg wrote: Now the Next problem I have is that I am currently Running 2 Screens(getting a third soon) Which means I have 5 clients on each screen. But since the lowest resolution which is 1024*768 is too big I am forced to overlap. is it possible to reduce it even further? (
OP the advice i'd give for that is to look at LG's Screen split program, It is like where windows will set a program on a half of the screen, however the LG one will force the program into such resolution even when it normally wont go, I can do 3 accounts all on my 25 inch screen with it, but I think it can split up to 4 on one screen That's illegal. Such programs allow you to reduce the game window to just the size of the overview and has been deemed a no-go.
Unless your program works differently?
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
102
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Posted - 2016.08.09 17:33:12 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:^^ heh mine was a mid range off the shelf PC 7 years ago, it's had a few upgrades over the years though; plenty of ram, an ssd a couple of gfx cards. SSD and GPUs are major upgrades. The SSD alone is a MASSIVE deal. You're right they are fairly major upgrades, but they go nowhere near what you were suggesting and in the case of the SSD replaced ailing components. You'd be surprised. I replaced my HD with a SSD in my old laptop and it easily double my speeds. I think the OP would get MASSIVE gains from just getting an SSD if they are insistent on not upgrading their system. |
bardghost Isu
Unity of Suns Warped Intentions
43
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Posted - 2016.08.09 17:41:35 -
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Solecist Project wrote:bardghost Isu wrote:Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg wrote: Now the Next problem I have is that I am currently Running 2 Screens(getting a third soon) Which means I have 5 clients on each screen. But since the lowest resolution which is 1024*768 is too big I am forced to overlap. is it possible to reduce it even further? (
OP the advice i'd give for that is to look at LG's Screen split program, It is like where windows will set a program on a half of the screen, however the LG one will force the program into such resolution even when it normally wont go, I can do 3 accounts all on my 25 inch screen with it, but I think it can split up to 4 on one screen That's illegal. Such programs allow you to reduce the game window to just the size of the overview and has been deemed a no-go. Unless your program works differently?
Works different, It shows the entire game not just the overview, it just pushes it into lower resolutions I'll get a screencap
There's No Kill Like Overkill !
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Hallvardr
85
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Posted - 2016.08.10 16:04:11 -
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Solecist Project wrote: That's illegal. Such programs allow you to reduce the game window to just the size of the overview and has been deemed a no-go.
Unless your program works differently?
citation needed!
I have never seen any where that for example using ISBoxer simply for its screen matrixing function was a "no-go" stated by CCP. |
bardghost Isu
Unity of Suns Warped Intentions
45
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Posted - 2016.08.10 18:24:41 -
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Hallvardr wrote:Solecist Project wrote: That's illegal. Such programs allow you to reduce the game window to just the size of the overview and has been deemed a no-go.
Unless your program works differently?
citation needed! I have never seen any where that for example using ISBoxer simply for its screen matrixing function was a "no-go" stated by CCP.
I cant give an exact link but using any program that limits the program down to just your overview and modules is banned. It'd come under "Modification of the client"
There's No Kill Like Overkill !
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
38
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Posted - 2016.08.11 08:26:28 -
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If you lower the graphics options, you can play lots of clients on a very modest PC easily. If you insist on full graphics options for every single client you'd need to look at the system issues & core distributions and such as suggested here earlier.
ISBoxer lets you manage core distributions per client & various other screen resizing wizardry, but CCP will not outright confirm/sanction its use so you use it at your own risk.
I submitted support ticket before to ask very specific and defined use of ISBoxer - whether the exact thing I want to do with it is against CCP rules or not. I gave very detailed description of what I intend to do with it - to utilise a very specific function and my use of the program will be limited to that specific function only, but CCP will not sanction/confirm it's OK or not.
Technically I think I'm not allowed to post about interactions with GM/support etc, but what they told me is pretty common enough and their general recommendations so I think I can post here.
They said something to this effect,
"If you are in doubt, or have to ask whether something is ok or not, then we advice you don't do it."
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Commissar Kate
NulzSec
406611
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Posted - 2016.08.11 18:54:33 -
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Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg wrote:Now the Next problem I have is that I am currently Running 2 Screens(getting a third soon) Which means I have 5 clients on each screen. But since the lowest resolution which is 1024*768 is too big I am forced to overlap. is it possible to reduce it even further?
If you want multiple clients on single screen i'd recommend a large (at least 28 inch) 4k or 5k monitor, you can fit 4 1920x1080 clients on 1 4k screen. Yes the text might be a bit small but that can be scaled up a bit.
-k8
My Fanclub
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Solecist Project
32019
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Posted - 2016.08.11 19:09:29 -
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Hallvardr wrote:Solecist Project wrote: That's illegal. Such programs allow you to reduce the game window to just the size of the overview and has been deemed a no-go.
Unless your program works differently?
citation needed! I have never seen any where that for example using ISBoxer simply for its screen matrixing function was a "no-go" stated by CCP. I was looking for it, but the obvious searchterms don't seem to help.
I know this, because once someone on reddit posted a screenshot of several client windows ... ... all sized down to their respective overviews. It was a post related to disallowing it.
You can believe it or not; I don't need to convince you, though not warning you would be a ****** move.
In the end it's your ass, not mine.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2016.08.11 21:59:03 -
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Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg wrote:So I have a slight problem. I am currently Running 10 Eve clients at the same time. But the GPU/CPU usage is immense in such a way that my GTX 970 is at 100% usage and my I7-3770K 4.2Ghz cpu is at 100% This makes it dangerous for me to fly from 1 system to another and doing it 1 at a time is wasting time thus wasting isk.
Now the Next problem I have is that I am currently Running 2 Screens(getting a third soon) Which means I have 5 clients on each screen. But since the lowest resolution which is 1024*768 is too big I am forced to overlap. is it possible to reduce it even further?
I really need help with these 2 things.
I remember back in the days I was easily able to handle 15 clients at same time but not anylonger :'( I can only think of one way you'd be able to jump ten clients simultaneously.
Have a nice day!
If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
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