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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.09 17:56:36 -
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Earlier, there was a thread concerning the lack of Spanish localization, posted more as a demand than as a discussion. But reasons were presented as to why there doesn't seem to be as much Spanish development in the game as there is for Russian, Japanese, French and German.
However, this doesn't have to remain unaddressed. There are logical ways to grow the game's Spanish-speaking population, and thus, the whole population of EVE. Advertising in various ways to almost 600 million speakers is possible. There are plenty of folks that have access to the internet and good computer equipment in predominately Spanish speaking areas.
EVE/CCP's Georgia office should have access to plenty of computer professionals that speak Spanish, so the translation shouldn't be terribly hard.
Growing the Spanish-speaking portion of the playerbase to a level that allows CCP to bring more support for that language just takes time and needs to be done step-by-step. It'd be a good process to roll forward, as opening up the game as-is to a larger audience seems logical to me. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.08.09 18:00:19 -
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Oh come on. It's supply and demand, innit? If there was a large-enough base of Spanish native speakers playing the game, then you could bet your cotton socks that CCP would localise it
Quote:Advertising in various ways to almost 600 million speakers is possible.
Easier to appeal to the ~1+ billion ESL speakers, surely?
I'm not against the idea of localisation at all - please don't get me wrong! - but pushing it for the sake of having it when the player numbers simply aren't there to support it strikes me as a little like 'tilting at windmills', if you'll forgive the Iberian literary reference.
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Keno Skir
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Posted - 2016.08.09 18:15:13 -
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The last thread contained loads of replies along the lines of "there aren't enough Spanish Only speakers (most speak english fluently) to warrant a Spanish localization. Or even, there hasn't been enough interest in a Spanish section for it to be worth thinking about."
I realise you feel this thread is different because you put "with civility" in the title, but in actual fact it's the same thread and will no doubt receive the same results.
Ho hum, duplicate thread inb4lock etc.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2016.08.09 18:30:18 -
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He put the idea in F&I where it should be there is no need to open yet another thread.
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.08.10 21:06:55 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:He put the idea in F&I where it should be there is no need to open yet another thread.
Actually he had two threads dealing with Spanish language questions and demands. One was locked and is still in General, that's the one that was considered to be of a ranting bent, while there is a different thread by the same person concerning a Spanish sub-forum request that is in Player Features and Ideas.
Anyway, the lack of sufficient numbers of Spanish-dominant speakers (as opposed to fluent ESL) currently is likely due to a lack of product awareness in those markets. That's where the step-by-step approach comes in. An example would be to build some awareness through low-cost marketing there. This would most likely build the population of those with both English and Spanish language skills, but would at least create enough of a population base that would like to use a Spanish localization to play the game, and then it would be profitable for CCP to do that, then advertise more in Spanish markets because they now have the path clear for Spanish-only speakers to enjoy the game fully.
I'm not sure how the Japanese, Russian, German or French localization paths went, as examples, so if someone can illustrate that as a different example, please feel free to do so. To me, these seemed like smaller markets than the Spanish one, so it seems that it'd be a profitable effort. |
Viktor Amarr
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Posted - 2016.08.10 21:46:35 -
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The only thing that localisation does is isolate the users from others who don't use it, that is how you get these all [insert country] corporations. It's the same with TV and movies, the reason why the Spanish, French, German and whatnot are so bad at English is because they were never exposed to it on TV when they were young.
It's kinda like a miner going "eek, I'll stick to mining. Sounds easier and less dangerous" and doesn't learn anything on the game, doesn't interact too much and has a very limited experience in the game. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2016.08.10 22:00:34 -
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2016.08.10 22:23:18 -
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iterating....you are iterating the request. After this, with your third thread, you'll be "re"-iterating.
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Komodo Askold
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.08.10 23:09:32 -
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I would certainly love to see EVE finally get a Spanish localization, as I'm a Spanish native. |
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
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Posted - 2016.08.10 23:14:16 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Oh come on. It's supply and demand, innit? If there was a large-enough base of Spanish native speakers playing the game, then you could bet your cotton socks that CCP would localise it
I'd take this one step further...if they're already playing, what is there to gain from putting resources into this?
The question is, are there Spanish-speakers who aren't playing (paying) because there is no Spanish localization? If there is no financial return, what does CCP have to gain? The goodwill of a segment of the population?
KB
Dum Spiro Spero
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2016.08.11 08:00:56 -
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Localisation is an ongoing process & requires dedicated team to manage and quality control. There's a decent sized eve community in the country I'm living in now, and years ago the local eve community site contacted CCP and actually offered FREE translation volunteer work to make a locallised client, as they felt that it would help increase the player base in the country.
CCP did not accept the offer although it was going to be all done for free by the volunteers. I do not have 'official response' to reference here but if my memory serves right one of the key issues was to maintain/manage/quality control this language client CCP needs staff/resources on permanent basis. As a company you would like to manage such things in-house and these things take a lot more on-going effort than people generally assume.
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.08.11 12:07:25 -
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Si si, a Spanish EVE client would be muy bien for learning espanol.
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Swoop McFly
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.08.11 12:26:23 -
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Joia Crenca wrote:build some awareness through low-cost marketing mar... what? I've NEVER seen any advertisement for Eve, anywhere. Does that even exist? I only found out about Eve by randomly clicking a link to Clarion Call 3 on a SciFi website. |
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra RUST415
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Posted - 2016.08.11 12:32:57 -
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Joia Crenca wrote:Earlier, there was a thread concerning the lack of Spanish localization, posted more as a demand than as a discussion. But reasons were presented as to why there doesn't seem to be as much Spanish development in the game as there is for Russian, Japanese, French and German.
However, this doesn't have to remain unaddressed. There are logical ways to grow the game's Spanish-speaking population, and thus, the whole population of EVE. Advertising in various ways to almost 600 million speakers is possible. There are plenty of folks that have access to the internet and good computer equipment in predominately Spanish speaking areas.
EVE/CCP's Georgia office should have access to plenty of computer professionals that speak Spanish, so the translation shouldn't be terribly hard.
Growing the Spanish-speaking portion of the playerbase to a level that allows CCP to bring more support for that language just takes time and needs to be done step-by-step. It'd be a good process to roll forward, as opening up the game as-is to a larger audience seems logical to me.
Hermano, it would be great just for the fact that EVE cartels would be in Spanish language. That would be just great. EVE doesn't spend much on advertisement in countries like South America. I bet a few tv adverts in latin region, let's say Argentina, Paraguay, Mexico and it would have results. I don't know what marketing department is doing but surely it doesn't look into emerging markets. Hire macroeconomist with marketing background CCP, because these levels of attraction are excruciatingly painful.
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2016.08.11 18:00:07 -
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KaarBaak wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Oh come on. It's supply and demand, innit? If there was a large-enough base of Spanish native speakers playing the game, then you could bet your cotton socks that CCP would localise it
I'd take this one step further...if they're already playing, what is there to gain from putting resources into this? The question is, are there Spanish-speakers who aren't playing (paying) because there is no Spanish localization? If there is no financial return, what does CCP have to gain? The goodwill of a segment of the population? KB
Plus Spanish writes in a heavily English based style.
In that Japaense (has 3 native syllabaries) and Russian look completely different. German to an extent has its flair in writing as well. The cool looking B for ss as an example. French..been too long since high school french. If they have special characters I do not recall. Why I think most got the special clients...to support the unique writings.
And with a lot of the technical words the spanish if no real deal equivalent would be the same word...still in English. Not picking on spanish. Its just when I have heard spanish speakers talk in IT realms the only words actually in spanish are the articles and verbs at times. The nouns are the same in English. Hell, Japanese like this. main difference is its written in katakana since that is used to write foreign words out. |
Denavit
We are not bad. Just unlucky DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2016.08.11 19:26:38 -
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I think its a good idea, a lot fo spanish talking ppl, dont play not because they dont want to, but because they dont speak or understand english. Just as an example, League of Legends went from almost an unknow game in latin america, to be the most popular game in latin america just because they translated it to spanish, now everybody plays leage of legends, even if they don-¦t speak english. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2016.08.11 20:51:37 -
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Swoop McFly wrote:Joia Crenca wrote:build some awareness through low-cost marketing mar... what? I've NEVER seen any advertisement for Eve, anywhere. Does that even exist? I only found out about Eve by randomly clicking a link to Clarion Call 3 on a SciFi website. I get EVE advertising everywhere. On my Yahoo mail page, random webpages, and think I've seen it on my FB page too. Those adbot things are smart. They know I'm an EVE player, they track me down, and they show me ads to try to get me interested in EVE.
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