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D'stela Lees
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:14:00 -
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and if you was going to train for one which would you go for and why ?
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Rakeris
Brethren Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:17:00 -
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I personally would go for the best one, but that is just me.
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Sandy Santiago
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:20:00 -
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Personally, I say Gallente. Drone skill don't affect fighters so the damage bonus from the carrier helps alot, and the dread has a huge drone bonus. However that is only if you like drones.
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Kaathar Rielspar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:24:00 -
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The Amarr dread is best because it has a rock solid tank and is less of a headache to support in terms of logistics in prolonged siege.
The Caldari dread is best because it can choose its damage type freely and can tank the highest amount of burst damage.
The Gallente dread is best because it does the highest raw dps and can be deployed in roles other than pos warfare due to the drone bonus.
The Minmatar dread is best because it's freakin' vertical ____________________
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Overpriced Nos victims.
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Jojo Yohan
Gallente Crazy 88's O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:24:00 -
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The thanatos has a nice bonus but you can tank better in the ammar archon.
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Eddie
Exotic Dancers Club Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kaathar Rielspar The Amarr dread is best because it has a rock solid tank and is less of a headache to support in terms of logistics in prolonged siege.
The Caldari dread is best because it can choose its damage type freely and can tank the highest amount of burst damage.
The Gallente dread is best because it does the highest raw dps and can be deployed in roles other than pos warfare due to the drone bonus.
The Minmatar dread is best because it's freakin' vertical
/signed, pretty much spot on. but u gotta remember that u cant run a cap shield booster forever, so if lag hits u big time u are out of luck
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.13 00:47:00 -
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The Correct Dread(TM), of course. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |
Drykor
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.13 01:38:00 -
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Whatever you do, don't get in the minmatar carrier
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Najenna
Minmatar Caldari Deep Space Ventures
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Posted - 2007.03.13 08:47:00 -
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Why all the hate towards Minmatar? From what I have gathered, The Naglfar is the best all round Dred. Notice I said all round. I didn't say it was the best period. Now for the Minmatar carrier I disagree with alot of folks. I have one and i can honestly say i love it and it has yet to let me down. (knocking on wood)..
But the Naglfar should imho be the hardest hitter just like the Tempest. Ask far as the rest.. The Ammar one should be dead last for Ammar blow chunks anyways Once you get this Robotech thing in your blood its there to stay... |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:04:00 -
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Amarr, coz they make the best mining vessles.
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Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:15:00 -
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gallente...
because the nyx is the only MS that looks well.
tbh the capitals seam ballanced and each has its strenghts and weaknesses.
so you better choose the race where you like the BS most or the respecitve titan's command bonus (depending on your attitude :D).
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Wild Rho
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Amarr, coz they make the best mining vessles.
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D'stela Lees
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:30:00 -
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seem like the Gallente is the most useful and versitile(in demand?). ty for your comments.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 13/03/2007 09:40:46 best dread is the well known Correct Dread (tm)
apart from that one, Moros ! bonus on drones is sick, you end with a mini carrier with quad railguns :p
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:20:00 -
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well the minnie treat of speed and low signature gets (kinda) lost with _capitals_ , while they still have to enjoy lower amounts of shields armour and hull.
archon: 5% resi/lvl and 7 low slots - ye gods chimera: similar to archon, alas shields thanatos: only one with offensive bonus nidhoggur: slightly better team player due to quicker remote repair bonus (well.....)
revelation: +5.263% dmg/lvl for 3 laser - evil tank phoenix: +10.526% dmg/lvl for 3 launchers - plus 1 turret moros: +5% dmg/lvl for 3 hybrids - solid tank - drone bonus against small fry naglfar: +5.263% dmg/lvl for 2 launchers +8.108% dmg/lvl for 2 projectiles may have one more weapon system, but tuxford includes double projectile boni when balancing turrets - so in the end it's the weakest weapon systems and the high slot has to be paid for by its tank (which is lacking by nature already). all in all: a tad bit more damage for a lot of extra skilling and a complicated defense.
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William Hamilton
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:33:00 -
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the nidhoggur could relay use it's bonus being changed from cycle speed to repair amount....
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Galactic-Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:44:00 -
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Let's see what the masses say:
15,000 pilots have registered on ineve.net already. Of them
-> 146 fly Thanatos (Gallente) -> 112 fly Archon (Amarr) -> 88 fly Chimera (Caldari) -> 42 fly Nidhoggur (Minmatar)
-> 112 fly Revelation (Amarr) -> 111 fly Phoenix (Caldari) -> 101 fly Moros (Gallente) -> 65 fly Naglfar (Minmatar)
So I would say, Carriers: a clear vote for Gallente, and Dreads: a tie between Amarr and Caldari, with Gallente close behind. Obviously, flying a Minmatar capital ship is considered a bad idea.
From my point of view, being Gallente and somewhat adept with Drones, I always would select Gallente capitals.
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Sphynix
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Posted - 2007.03.13 22:00:00 -
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Folk don't like the minmatar carriers much because they have a dual rep bonus. All the others have a single rep + damage or tank bonus.
So minmatar carriers are better logistic ships, but not so good "solo".
As for the dreads. To do any damage they have to be in Siege Mode. They can't move at all, because of siege. Their turrets can't track anything moving faster than 20km/s. Their only "solo" defense is drones and their own weapon systems - which can't track.
So the best dread is the one that can defend itself - one has a massive drone bonus and another uses torps. Torps don't track... so you can be bumped and still hit things. Of course if everything is working normally you only "solo" 'roids in a dread - all the other times you have a fleet to back you up. In which case the best dread is the one that lives the longest...
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Teark Valkro
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Posted - 2007.03.13 22:03:00 -
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Thanatos and Revelation. If lots of frontline work, Archon for carrier.
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Jurushy
SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.13 22:13:00 -
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well
atm minmatar Capitals are a little unbalanced but !TUXFORD! promissed to take a look on the capitals 4 Months ago so i supose the change will take some time
we will see them balanced in july 2017 ------
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ElweSingollo
The Vanyar
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Posted - 2007.03.13 22:51:00 -
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I would say carrier wise your looking at the Thanatos and the Archon both have benefits Archon as has been said has an amazing tank whereas the Thanatos can do that extra damage.
Dread wise easiest Dread to use is the Revelation all you need worry about logistically for it is keep it's stront topped up the others you will always have ammo concerns especially for longer engagements.
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Lenaria
Caldari Draconis Navitas Aeterna
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:49:00 -
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You can find a good sides on all races capitals... except minmatars. Pretty much sums it up.
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:22:00 -
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I would have to say Gallente for the carrier/mothership side of things.
It gets a sweet fighter damage bonus, can tank like a mofo with rigs and dual reps and can also use capital shield transporters (gets range bonus) to repair pos shields...
Dreads the moros is the best pvp dread for fighting non-capitals although dreads are less being used in this way due to the change that means you can't dock while sieged. For the fact it doesnt require ammo, it can be rigged to jump a battleship to 0.0 and for the ability to balance your tank/damage at any point in a fight i would say the amarr dread is overall the best. ______________________________________
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Sheriff Badden
Amarr Legion Federation Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:20:00 -
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Amarr, because of their strong armour.
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:23:00 -
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gal or amarr if you are cool Caldari if you *snip* that's hardly appropriate. -Ivan K minny if your like being gimped
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Yorda
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Yorda on 14/03/2007 11:22:15 .
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OneSock
PLuSQuAMPERFEkT iNc
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Juwi Kotch Let's see what the masses say:
15,000 pilots have registered on ineve.net already. Of them
-> 146 fly Thanatos (Gallente) -> 112 fly Archon (Amarr) -> 88 fly Chimera (Caldari) -> 42 fly Nidhoggur (Minmatar)
-> 112 fly Revelation (Amarr) -> 111 fly Phoenix (Caldari) -> 101 fly Moros (Gallente) -> 65 fly Naglfar (Minmatar)
I expect that just follows the Eve racial Demographics, which doesn't indicate which is "best" just which race is most prevelant.
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Imechal Ravpeim
International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: OneSock
Originally by: Juwi Kotch Let's see what the masses say:
15,000 pilots have registered on ineve.net already. Of them
-> 146 fly Thanatos (Gallente) -> 112 fly Archon (Amarr) -> 88 fly Chimera (Caldari) -> 42 fly Nidhoggur (Minmatar)
-> 112 fly Revelation (Amarr) -> 111 fly Phoenix (Caldari) -> 101 fly Moros (Gallente) -> 65 fly Naglfar (Minmatar)
I expect that just follows the Eve racial Demographics, which doesn't indicate which is "best" just which race is most prevelant.
I think it's good data... In a true scientific study you would be right and such data would have no meaning; but in the real world the best things tend become the most popular, not the other way around.
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Sovereign533
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:45:00 -
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Gallente for carrier... the damage bonus is sweet, the extra drone space is sweet... and it also holds a good tank... not as good as the Archon, but 2nd best...
for the Dreads, i would say the Phoenix is the best, because it can select damage types... and this is very important... altough i go for the Moros, cause it looks ******* sweet =p signature removed - please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) ='(( they broke my sig... and does this count as a sigjack? |
Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:35:00 -
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posting that as i can just board one and im half way on the naglfar fitting skills.... ------
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