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Yarosara Ruil
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Posted - 2016.08.23 22:01:58 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Agreed that it's a waste of space, and does noone any good. Still, what would you have me do? Apologize? Even those who are supposed to be the embodiment of her ideal State soldier are spat upon at a whim. Is the decision really between prostrating myself before her or enduring never-ending, tired, tiresome insults?
If I knew the answer to what we can do to put a definite end to all this without having to ask DED to hammer dowm people, I'd be the first to suggest it.
I don't supose having a "real talk" with Miss Kim would even work. Not the first time people would try that either, as I heard. Ignoring her maybe? Block her? Give the other cheek? Maybe she is deliberately driving everyone nuts for her own entretainment..
But really, this is killing our small circle. The IGS and The Summit have had lately periods of complete radio silence, which have become longer and more frequent. My prime source of entertainment has been severely crippled by this whole affair, and that has to stop.
And Miss Lagann, I'm sure you are well acquainted to how easy is it is for Miss Kim to enflame everyone and derail the sanest topic to to be centered around her. This has gone on for years now, and it has only become easier with each passing day. Miss Kim doesn't even have to directly interfer with anyone anymore to sway the conversation, people are doing it for her! And fighting fire with fire has pretty much left the entire cluster in cinders.
Heck, even my attempts to sway this topic back to badmouthing Miss Funk as payback for her unjustly firing me have all failed. Such a shame... |
Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
105
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Posted - 2016.08.23 22:07:39 -
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Yes, let us please direct this thread back to how Funk is actually a weak willed pretender at being Sani Sabik?
She's said many times that she's wanted to do something, but cannot because other have stopped her.
She's said that she's incapable of controlling her actions because she's addicted to certain things.
She worships Omir like some love sick puppy. |
Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
109
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Posted - 2016.08.23 22:55:12 -
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There once was a Blooder named Funk Whose brand value in the cluster had sunk She made some post real bad And wound up real sad When everyone showed up to dunk |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1786
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Posted - 2016.08.23 23:58:20 -
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Now now, don't run amok. |
Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
111
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Posted - 2016.08.24 00:31:16 -
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Ha-ha. I am confused, though. Amarr are liking my posts. . . . |
Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
111
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Posted - 2016.08.24 00:59:42 -
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Funk once vowed to stop her posting on this forum DED is hosting And the people here rejoiced that this development was sweet Nothing more then did she post, leaving Kim to rant the most But Funk gave up the ghost, writing for us a little treat The worst post on this forums, that itself was no small feat Thus quoth Funk then, GÇ£Delete.GÇ¥ |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1786
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Posted - 2016.08.24 01:02:27 -
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Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:Ha-ha. I am confused, though. Amarr are liking my posts. . . .
I think Funkybutt has hit the point where she makes people root for literally anyone else. |
Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
113
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Posted - 2016.08.24 01:07:13 -
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I think they just like my poetry. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2769
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Posted - 2016.08.24 01:31:12 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote: And Miss Kim, you ought to get over the fact Miss Makoto is never, ever, going to duel you. Nobody wants to duel you. It's been established. You're just that good. There will always be excuses, accusations and random stipulations to the terms of the duel before you ever manage to get anyone to meet you in Black Rise to be humiliated by you. It just won't happen, deal with it.
Calling Miss Makoto a "liar and a coward" has become at this point a running gag fit for a Gallente comedy show, which makes you sound desperate at establishing your personal honor, despite the fact that everything that needed to be said has been said already.
I got it already, that she's not going duel back when she has replied. So please be so kind and stop misinterpreting my words, we have already enough trolls like Lagann for it.
And now I have to correct this. No, I repeat again, I am not interested in duelling with Makoto anymore, as she already proven she doesn't have honor for this.
I use the argument though to show her as a liar - to counter her arguments, claims or business proposals. From the reference I have been linking her lies were quite obvious, taken together with her hostility towards Caldari personnel.
My honor was restored back then by that exact discussion I have been linking the moment she refused to fight. I still though reference to her person as "coward disgrace" to display that I detest her presence and would like to avoid any conversations or business with this person, except shooing her away, shall she appear anywhere.
After all, Ms. Ruil, it was Makoto's choice to choose the conflict. She wanted it, and she got it. Maybe she enjoys it in her own, wicked masochistic ways, since she keeps returning for more?... Who knows.
As for myself? I just keep fighting enemies with my guns and words. Unfortunately, while they bark while hiding behind NeoCom screen at me and spread lies about me like Makoto I can only use words against them back. Good thing though that facts are on my side.
I hope I have cleared your misconception about my goals, Ms. Ruil, and we won't have to return to it in this discussion or any other.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2016.08.24 01:59:28 -
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Whoa, now. The only posts allowed in here are poems about Funk or post talking about Funk related poems. |
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1316
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Posted - 2016.08.24 02:12:53 -
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Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:Whoa, now. The only posts allowed in here are poems about Funk or post talking about Funk related poems.
She's the worst Blood Raider I had ever heard of.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
507
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Posted - 2016.08.24 05:06:06 -
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Diana Kim wrote:I got it already, that she's not going duel back when she has replied. So please be so kind and stop misinterpreting my words, we have already enough trolls like Lagann for it.
And now I have to correct this. No, I repeat again, I am not interested in duelling with Makoto anymore, as she already proven she doesn't have honor for this.
I use the argument though to show her as a liar - to counter her arguments, claims or business proposals. From the reference I have been linking her lies were quite obvious, taken together with her hostility towards Caldari personnel.
My honor was restored back then by that exact discussion I have been linking the moment she refused to fight. I still though reference to her person as "coward disgrace" to display that I detest her presence and would like to avoid any conversations or business with this person, except shooing her away, shall she appear anywhere.
After all, Ms. Ruil, it was Makoto's choice to choose the conflict. She wanted it, and she got it. Maybe she enjoys it in her own, wicked masochistic ways, since she keeps returning for more?... Who knows.
As for myself? I just keep fighting enemies with my guns and words. Unfortunately, while they bark while hiding behind NeoCom screen at me and spread lies about me like Makoto I can only use words against them back. Good thing though that facts are on my side.
By the maker Kim.. I have an offer for you if it will stop this nonsense from being brought up again. Seeing as Makoto-haani was under my command during this perceived slight of yours; if I recall she was merely upholding the honor of her compatriots and employer at the time. I will fight on her behalf as she was under my watch, thus my responsibility.
Lets end this charade of yours once and for all, so we may move forward with our lives. I'll do you this one merciful favor as I for one would hate to be stuck spiraling in a moment as you have been for years. Don't disappoint me or the mostly pleasant people who use this public summit by squirming out of this.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Yarosara Ruil
533
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Posted - 2016.08.24 08:53:23 -
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Diana Kim wrote:As for myself? I just keep fighting enemies with my guns and words. Unfortunately, while they bark while hiding behind NeoCom screen at me and spread lies about me like Makoto I can only use words against them back. Good thing though that facts are on my side.
I hope I have cleared your misconception about my goals, Ms. Ruil, and we won't have to return to it in this discussion or any other.
Okay Miss Kim, real talk it is.
I've stood up for you in the past Miss Kim, and I'll continue to do so in the future. Both sides of the fence have thrown enough grievances at each other enough already, and the only fact I'm sure of is that this whole "eye for an eye" thing has spiraled out of control enough that DED felt the need to intervene. I want to stop that hammer from falling on your head, or anyone's for that matter.
You are easy to provoke and even easier to get a reaction out of you. I'm not saying you shouldn't continue fighting or showing animosity towards your foes and enemies, but sometimes you need to bite your tongue.
If you have a grudge against Miss Makoto, that's your business and your reasons, and you can continue to broil on your feud with her. But following her around, derailing public announcements and other threads just to call her out of what she did in the past?
I mean, is there a need to call her a liar while she's announcing a breakthrough in the her fight against the Drifters? Or when she is showing the latest results of her research, or she showing support to another capsuleer effort? Even in this very thread, she was presenting her opinion and your first reaction to this was calling her an hypocrite, out of context of what she was saying. And after her reaction, which was just blunt disbelief, you continued battering her.
That is very petty and you are better than this. Both you and Miss Makoto can be the better person and ignore each other mutually, but how many topics and discussions have to die before you sate your bloodlust for petty revenge?
Imagine if I started following Miss Funk around and started calling her a backstabbing heartless harpy at every opportunity? And made every effort to remind everyone of that fact constantly? Does she deserve it? Of course she does. Should I do that then? Of course not. But that is exactly what you are doing now against Miss Makoto, so should I follow your example?
All I ask of you Miss Kim, is to be reasonable and stop killing the IGS with your pride. We've lost so much as it already.
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Alizabeth Vea
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
770
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Posted - 2016.08.24 09:26:56 -
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Alright. After a long conversation this evening and the express will of my liege Lady, I am going to chime in to Kim-haani. May God have mercy on my soul.
Ms. Ruil is right. You are incredibly easy to get a rile out of. As an experienced propagandist (I learned from the best, The Mittani) I think that you might not recognize this is a deliberate act and one to your detriment. As much as you might not like to imagine, wars are not just won with weapons but information. On some level I know you recognize this, as you were upset at my flippant comments when I jested that you were a Gallente agent. However, too much sensitivity to this is a vulnerability. (Unless you are absolutely faking you being upset, which would be a pretty good deception.) Disinformation and propaganda is a weapon, one which you are very susceptible to.
Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.
Caldari by birth; Amarr by choice.
"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I
SFRIM Evocatus.
ARC FC
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1545
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:33:21 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:She's the worst Blood Raider I had ever heard of.
But, you have heard of her ?
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Varcutii Renalard
53
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Posted - 2016.08.24 16:58:02 -
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Is it true that she actually paints her ships with pasta sauce? ... Figuring that like, ya know. No one would ever check? Cuz that'd be all kinds a funky. ... Maybe Ms. Linguini would be able to check or somthing... |
Zekiel Iyhr
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
25
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Posted - 2016.08.24 17:37:07 -
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There is worry to be found in those that have donned a uniform and believe they have never erred whilst wearing it. |
Varcutii Renalard
55
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Posted - 2016.08.24 19:25:55 -
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Zekiel Iyhr wrote:There is worry to be found in those that have donned a uniform and believe they have never erred whilst wearing it.
True. But think of the meatballs!! All covered in molten cheddar!
Would totally asplain how easily her ships asplode in amarr at the undock if she ...
IF the people inside those ships were meatballs!!!
...
The horror! |
Astarto Sabezan
Blood Dominion Cruoris Imperium
0
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Posted - 2016.08.24 19:34:38 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:
Despite my willingness to overlook her short comings and be her friend over the years, I came to realize she is truly an underedeemable monster incapable of appreciating good faith, trust and friendship.
You would have to be as deranged as her to even consider colaborating with her at this point and in no circumstance would I recomend joining her corporation or alliance in its current or future state, for as long as she holds any administrative power over her corporation.
Finally the penny drops....
Although I wouldn't use the term "monster"..."moron" seems more appropriate.
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Astarto Sabezan
Blood Dominion Cruoris Imperium
1
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Posted - 2016.08.24 19:44:44 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:She's the worst Blood Raider I had ever heard of. But, you have heard of her ?
A fools tale can be every bit as interesting as a heroes. |
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Yarosara Ruil
537
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Posted - 2016.08.24 20:11:28 -
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Astarto Sabezan wrote: Finally the penny drops....
Although I wouldn't use the term "monster"..."moron" seems more appropriate.
Hey, some of my best friends are monsters!
The crux of the matter here is that I scratched Miss Funk's name off my friend list. |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1318
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Posted - 2016.08.25 01:27:08 -
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Varcutii Renalard wrote:Zekiel Iyhr wrote:There is worry to be found in those that have donned a uniform and believe they have never erred whilst wearing it. True. But think of the meatballs!! All covered in molten cheddar! Would totally asplain how easily her ships asplode in amarr at the undock if she ... IF the people inside those ships were meatballs!!! ... The horror!
Funk actually worships the Spaghetti Monster? Or is Red God the Spaghetti Monster?
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2770
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Posted - 2016.08.26 10:41:00 -
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John Revenent wrote: By the maker Kim.. I have an offer for you if it will stop this nonsense from being brought up again. Seeing as Makoto-haani was under my command during this perceived slight of yours; if I recall she was merely upholding the honor of her compatriots and employer at the time. I will fight on her behalf as she was under my watch, thus my responsibility.
Lets end this charade of yours once and for all, so we may move forward with our lives. I'll do you this one merciful favor as I for one would hate to be stuck spiraling in a moment as you have been for years. Don't disappoint me or the mostly pleasant people who use this public summit by squirming out of this.
1) Are you going just to annoy and troll me, offering what I have stated I don't need in the post you have replied to? Maybe I had to write it in red text, that
I am not interested in duelling with Makoto anymore
So could you please at least TRY to read what are you replying to. Or is it your official policy, when you are requested 'X', you deny selling it. When customers tell you they don't need 'X' anymore you shove it to their noses? Good business, I assume?
2) I have a principle, that I treat everyone fairly, including enemies. Yes, I have a lot to fight against you for, but I won't fight against you instead of Makoto. Even if she has executed your orders, it was her decision, and it is for her to reply for what she did... and for you to reply for what you did. Every soldier knows, that they bear consequences for executing orders, was it lawful or not. And I hope you know a lot of evidences from Caldari history how soldiers have executed order and then committed suicide because they dishonored themselves by doing so, or submitted themselves to tribunal.
If I would fight you not for your deeds, but for Makoto's, I will violate my own principles of fairness and justice and I would never forgive myself for such outrageous and unfair act.
3) As for your orders to Makoto... I have no complaints to you on this part. My goal was to grab your alliance into our coalition. But despite Makoto shoved me away, my plan has succeeded. I have reached my goal, and if you remember it, we were sitting in the same board of directors, while Makoto was left outside.
4) As for Makoto herself. It doesn't mean what your order she has executed, and I have no complaints to her either (as I said in 3, because my goal was achieved anyway). This is a question of how she executed it. Because she publically LIED about me. And did it several times. Have you read the reference I have been linking? That's written there. Moreover, she continued lying about me even when she wasn't under your command.
It is not my conflict, Makoto started it, and she keeps it going. I just link facts she herself provided me with. I am fighting a liar with truth and I will continue doing it as long as reputation of my uniform and Caldari State are at the risk. Don't you dare to ask me to stop the fight if the aggressor doesn't wish to stop it.
5) And finally... We have our own axes to grind, and if you feel you want to put your honor for this, then be my guest. My offer is probably quite known already: I accept fight either on ships or in person on any weapon you'd like. Fight to the death. Whomever wins or loses, shall not mention the conflict (that caused the duel) ever again, as it never happened. However, it doesn't clean name of your corporation. For example, if we will fight because you signed blue pact with Q-CATS, it means I will never blame you personally in this, but I will leave my right to blame your corporation in this... though it is quite bad example, since it is not matter of honor, and you all shall be executed for collaboration with enemy according to Caldari Navy code.
Actually, lets raise it to all personal conflicts we had, whatever I complaints had to you personally and you had personally to me, they all will be forgotten if we fight. (Of course, that will stay just between our persons, nothing in relations between me and your corporation, or between you and Caldari State or CMC will change). Oh, and it still doesn't mean I will close my eyes if I spot any your further blue pacts with enemy!
Feds are scum. But those, who do business with them are worse than scum.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2770
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Posted - 2016.08.26 10:46:57 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote: I mean, is there a need to call her a liar while she's announcing a breakthrough in the her fight against the Drifters? Or when she is showing the latest results of her research, or she showing support to another capsuleer effort? Even in this very thread, she was presenting her opinion and your first reaction to this was calling her an hypocrite, out of context of what she was saying. And after her reaction, which was just blunt disbelief, you continued battering her.
I actually try to put warning only if she puts some sort of public business offer, speaks anything about me or about Caldari State... or about Tibus Heth, or claims to be related to Caldari State.
I might actually misplaced it couple times and put it where it wasn't needed, because I was... well... you know, agitated too much, it happens. Sorry.
Still my warning contains nothing but facts, so I don't think I will call it back. I'll try to be more accurate though in the future and won't be putting it... you know... everywhere.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Yarosara Ruil
540
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Posted - 2016.08.26 12:41:38 -
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Diana Kim wrote: I might actually misplaced it couple times and put it where it wasn't needed, because I was... well... you know, agitated too much, it happens. Sorry.
Still my warning contains nothing but facts, so I don't think I will call it back. I'll try to be more accurate though in the future and won't be putting it... you know... everywhere.
Thank you Miss Kim. A little restrain in exercising our right for freedom of speech goes a long way in making IGS a better place for everyone. Facts are a cornerstone on the path to the Truth, but there is a time and a place for everything, including facts.
But restraint and mutual respect are a two-way road. We can hope Miss Makoto can also show the same restraint I'm asking of you, and avoid posting further unprovoked libel and defamation of you and your beliefs. For the best results, the two of you should stop acknowledging the other's existence for a time. But if it comes to a point where you feel the need to intervene on Miss Makoto's words (like denouncing her position of Tibus Heth's status as a Caldari hero), you are free to do so as long as you maintain a certain amount of civility fit for a civilized thoughtful human being posting on IGS. As you are free to dislike Miss Makoto for what she did to you in the past.
Because despite our newfound mutual understanding, I'm not a fan of Miss Makoto myself, due to past grievances. And albeit I still struggle with my urges of murdering her coldblooded, which haven't fully subsided, I know I must show some decor to avoid raising unnecessary tensions (and make it all the more easy to plot her imminent demise at a later date).
I hope we can turn this situation around and lift the dark clouds that have been hovering over IGS lately. I really do. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2046
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Posted - 2016.08.26 14:50:36 -
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All is as expected here, proceed as normal.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1800
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Posted - 2016.08.26 19:05:29 -
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Diana Kim wrote:or about Tibus Heth
What, like pointing out that he was the leader of a terrorist insurgency against the Caldari State?
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
8633
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Posted - 2016.08.26 19:11:52 -
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Precisely that, Arrendis.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
660
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Posted - 2016.08.26 19:16:24 -
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Ridicule is not being directed at the appropriate targets. A 10 ISK fine will be assessed as penalty for future derailment.
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2047
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Posted - 2016.08.26 19:19:05 -
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:Ridicule is not being directed at the appropriate targets. A 10 ISK fine will be assessed as penalty for future derailment. Only 10 ISK for poking the wrong slimy creature?
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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